But I think the random switch onto me at the end is a WIFOM attempt. He never posted a solid case but since he's still alive I guess we'll let him.
^ This is 100% scum, no doubts.
"AP must have had a case on me to have suspected me, too bad we'll never get to see it"
.."Oh I guess we can see AP's CASE on me after all, cool"
1
a. I need to suspect you before I have a case, not the other way around. Also you are premptively suggesting that I need to have a formal case 100% ready right when I return or else Im defo-scum. That is an excuse to continue to scumread me when I dont and that is definitely not town thinking.
2. I already addressed parts of your posting that I found scummy (but lets pretend that never happened)
3. "you GUESS you'll let me"?? Your words say that you are interested in hearing what I have to say but your tone suggests otherwise. Your tone also suggests that you have decided to scumread me regardless of anything I may have to say about this whole escapade. Also see exhibit A.
^ Ugh I wanted to make an austin powers reference but youtube is tanking the tigers atm.
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:22 pm
by AngryPidgeon
In post 1088, Amrun wrote:I didn't find his changing emotional state consistent with the events at hand or what I would expect of this particular player as town. Context always matters.
Im totally SHOCKED that you didn't bother asking about the context behind my posting timing then because that surely is relevant to FIGURING OUT MY ALIGNMENT.
In post 1095, Elyse wrote:I think the Venmar vote after Venmar voted is very telling. Why would AP place a vote on someone if he thought he was hammered? And why wouldn't he vote me, since I'm apparently in my own scum tier.
Oh look the exact same accusation. I'd quote my anecdote again but I think you can find it yourself.
I didnt ask Venmar if he was voting me or say "lol ur voting me" cause I knew he was voting you. What the actual fuck.
At least this accusation is more inventive than "WELL I DUNNO, I DONT TRUST THIS AP GUY"
Thank you majiffy. Please be town, because if the only person defending me is scum Imma cry manly tears.
In post 1103, Wisdom wrote:And this is the other one, if anyone cares. In both of them, AP spent his dying moments trying to actively advise the town on who they should go after next. Nothing like a simple "please lynch Elyse, thanks".
Ok, this accusation I can also just refer you to my historical anecdote. And I will.
Also I DARE you to read my play in that game (Switchboard) in the days before I got lynched and tell me Im playing ANY different than this game. Its literally the exact same posting. If you are going to quote meta of me being hilariously town and raging at everyone and getting pissy then don't nitpick away the meaty parts of it to say I did one highly specific thing once and therefore would do it again a year later in a different game, holy butt.
And IIRC I was at a homosexual pride event in SJ at the time of getting lynched in Sboard and was looking for a distration from my 'date' that I was ther ewith as a courtesy so I was phoneposting like FUCK because I didnt wantto deal with him.
SO THERE IS ALL YALLS CONTEXtT
IF ANYONE STILL SCUMREADS ME, THE ONLY POSSIBLE MOTIVE FOR THAT IS TO BE INTENTIONALLY APPEARING 'TOO ANTITOWN TO BE MAFIA'.
Index
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What happened to AP today at work, an informative anecdote, by AP:
In post 1042, Amrun wrote:His reaction was NOT ragey, as I'd expect of town -- it was cautious. Now I'm unsure what to think.
Let me paint a fucking picture for you.
I roll into the office at 9. I feel really bad about lurking my ass off in this game so I start making posts. People are mislynching me and nothing actually gets me more involved in a game than people trying to ML me. (But AP this is AtE! Yes, and screw you too.) so I start posting back. Suddenly its lunch time and I havent done any actual work. Im feeling moderately shitty because my sleeping schedule is shit and I just can't bering myself to work when I know the idiots in my game will eventually realize Im obviously playing to a town wincon if I do the one thing that actually makes my town play good and just post my stream of thoughts and rage. Finally its 5:15 or some shit. And I actually havent done jackshit for work because Ive been playing this game all day. I'm fucjking exhausted from sitting at my cube which is too hot and not having any sleep and generally angry at myself for not getting any work done and to top it all off Venmar (I was wrong about this but whatever) blatantly insults me personally so I raged at him, saw Amrun as k if it was the hammer but didnt care enough to do something other than tell Venny to piss off. When he confirmed it, I said "fucking dumbass" outloud and looked around to see if the guy that sits behind me heard it (he had headphones on). So no, I did not give enough fucks to verify whether or not I was hammered. I was telling myself that I was overbooked on games anyways and was kinda happy it was all over.
But this game is a fucking Zombie and apparently its not going away. But neither am I, BITCHES. THIS IS A NIGHTLESS SO YOU ALL GET TO ENJOY ME.
In post 745, Amrun wrote:Trying to paint my infrequent phone posting as scummy when it's public knowledge I'm not around for this time frame is scummy as fuck.
Thats the one.
BUT AP IM TALKING ABOUT OVERALL ACTIVITY HERE AND IM TALKING ABOUT YOUR RESPONSE TIME (ACTIVITY) WITH YOU.
I DONT GIVE A FUCK. YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING AROUND THE TIME I THOUGHT VENMAR HAMMERED ME?
I was pissed off at myself (and life in general). I put an honest-to-God effort into this game but despite that my wheels were spinning. And around the time I blew off some coworker about WORK Venmar trollhammers me after calling me a moron.
In post 1112, Wisdom wrote:Instead, he takes Venmar's declaration for granted, he doesn't check, and he switches from posting about how we should lynch Venmar today, to posting about how we should lynch Elyse tomorrow.
I MADE POSTS 1003 and 1004. I THEN TOOK THE TIME TO READ VENNY'S CONFIRMATION OF HAMMER.
I ACCIDENTALLY SAID "FING DUMBASS" OUT LOUD AND THEN MADE post 1005.
AFTER A COUPLE SECONDS OF AWKWARD LOOKING AROUND TO SEE IF ANYONE NOTICED, DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO GO HOME INSTEAD OF SPINNING MY WHEELS MORE.
I WALKED DOEN THE HALL TO THE MENsBATHROOM FEELING TIRED AND HOT AND ANGRY AT MYSELF.
I TOOK A PISS.
I WENT BACK TO MY DESK AND PACKED UP MY LAPTOP.
I WALKED TO MY CAR. I MADE POST 1015 AT THE SECOND RED LIGHT I NEEDED TO MAKE A LEFT AT OUT OF THE PARKING LOT.
I got home, checked [stuff] and went to the gym where I did my legs workout.
And imagine my surprise to see the game title unchanged when I get back. (J/K of course, since I clearly knew I was hammered)
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Anyone still scumreading me needs to come up with legitimate explanations or face my wrath.
And Amrun needs to apologize or self-vote for calling me scummy for something outside my control depending on her alignment.
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:45 pm
by AngryPidgeon
Wow my internet just weny down. Im going to sleep.
Wisdom: when was the only other time ive self voted? Im sure you wetent too bust nitpicking bullshit to notice.
But ap, you could still do it as scum and town!
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:48 pm
by AngryPidgeon
Ive self votred once EVER (including troll rvsin I think).
Oh and what did the looming ML motivate me to do in both those games? AtE, rage and spampost. But dont acknowledge that, you wrong get that best mafia catcher if you listen to SCUM
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:50 pm
by AngryPidgeon
Wont*
And whoever was speculating on exactly how id react as town to precisely my 3rd ml is scum.
In post 1094, Wisdom wrote:Majiffy which part of -he knew he was not hammered, he even tried to push a Venmar lynch- you don't understand?
In post 1095, Elyse wrote:
I think the Venmar vote after Venmar voted is very telling. Why would AP place a vote on someone if he thought he was hammered? And why wouldn't he vote me, since I'm apparently in my own scum tier.
Chronology:
Venmar votes
AP votes
Amrun goes "oh was that hammer"
Venmar goes "yes"
AP goes "oh"
Simplified, but you guys are acting like it is
impossible
for:
AP to have voted, not thinking there was a hammer.
A big situation arises around it being a hammer.
And AP then thinking he was hammered, and acting accordingly.
It isn't outside the realm of possibility and it seems like there are a number of diehard positions being taken that assume it to be such that it IS outside the realm of possibility.
Agreed.
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:09 pm
by Grimgroove
In post 1057, Wisdom wrote:Also the self-vote didn't happen because he gave up. The self-vote happened because he wanted to "test" if Grimgroove would hammer him or not.
I never understood this test. I never claimed I would do so and even specifically stated I found it too early for an L-1.
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:13 pm
by Grimgroove
I do believe AngryPidgeon should remvoe that vote. I don't see how it is helpful.
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:21 pm
by Grimgroove
I believe sticking with NS for now is better.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:16 am
by Wisdom
And I believe that if people acted according to fucking logic for once, it would be nice.
UNVOTE:
I cannot scumhunt when things like AP's real life and what the fuck not affect our game.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:36 am
by Grimgroove
Majiffy's 1100 is perfect logic and I act according to it.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:42 am
by Wisdom
So you don't act based on what AP explained happened, you act based on a ridiculous scenario Majiffy brought up that defies all logic. Because players never have to check how many votes have on them, never have to check if someone is reaction test, ITS THE FUCKING DEFAULT TO BE BUSY BECAUSE OF RL AND ASSUME WHOEVER SAYS "HAMMER" MEANT HAMMER. Yes, perfect logic.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:47 am
by Grimgroove
Do you think AP made up his RL story?
You sound frustrated you're being bereft of an almost certain mislynch because of reasons you don't like.
But just because you don't like the reasons, doesn't mean they're not valid.
And they are. Not only Majiffy's logic convinced me (I was thinknig along the same lines anyway when it comes to that), but also A's description of what was going on sounds too genuine to be fake. There's no way you can't see that.
I'm going to move my vote back on to you, because of this obvious disappointment you're enduring. If you're town, you should be happy there were arguments brought forward that make AP very very town.
VOTE: Wisdom
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:50 am
by Wisdom
Are you retarded? Of course I believe his story, hence why I unvoted, the thing is I cannot fucking accept that someone comes and ruins logic with fucking RL. I cannot play when things that should make sense don't because of things that don't belong in this game.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:52 am
by Grimgroove
Many people have asked me this during this game, I'm starting to believe I am retarded in comparison with you guys. I didn't realize I joined Mensa when joining in this game.
So, with reason being out of the window for a simple bloke like me, I'll have to base my reads off emotions.
In post 1139, Grimgroove wrote:
You sound frustrated you're being bereft of an almost certain mislynch because of reasons you don't like.
And you basically just confirmed this.
So my vote stays.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:55 am
by Wisdom
Great, Grimgroove is scum.
enomis/Safety/Grimgroove. One left.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:56 am
by Grimgroove
Could you clarify the relation between 1141 and your confindence in me being scum, even if only for future reference after you're lynched?
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:59 am
by Wisdom
AP is town because apparently what happens in this game doesn't matter, let's tell the tale of our life to appear obvtown instead.
Amrun and Venmar (especially Amrun) are town as balls for the reaction test.
Elyse is also town for following the same logic I and Amrun did and every townie should.
Majiffy and mollie are certainly town.
I guess that leaves NS for the fourth scum.
VOTE: NS
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:00 am
by Wisdom
No I won't clarify shit from now on. I'll just do whatever I want because apparently saying tales about your life defies logic.
Where did Elyse and Amrun go by the way? i thought you had them down as scum only yesterday?
My current guess:
Enomis/Elyse/Amrun/?
I hope you are the question mark Wisdom, but I'm not sure. I'm not happy with this lynchpool anymore, but right now you're the scummiest of that bunch.
Other candidates for the question mark: Safety Dance
UNVOTE:
Pff.
We need more info from Venmar and Nobody Special.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:04 am
by Grimgroove
Because those two are also candidates for the question mark-spot.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:08 am
by Wisdom
Elyse could actually be scum. Reading her posts all she did was go "yes what Wisdom said" instead of presenting logic on her own.
So if NS is wrong, then it's enomis/Safety/Grim/Elyse.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:11 am
by Grimgroove
In post 1144, Wisdom wrote:Amrun and Venmar (especially Amrun) are town as balls for the reaction test.
