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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:44 am
by Nobody Special
This may not stick (remember, I still have ~8 pages to catch up on):

Vote: Katsuki

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:45 am
by Nobody Special
Dammit.


-Nobody Special

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:46 am
by sangres
In post 869, Sixty wrote:
In post 868, sangres wrote:Agree re the Tim lynch.
Then make it happen? You are voting on a wagon of one and not making an effort to push it.

I do not believe Shadoweh is scum; her irritation at the blue issue seems genuine, and she was the very first one to mention the "Heart Attack on First Read Red" Town color. Furthermore, scum have safeclaims and there's a sample role PM. Shadoweh is not stupid, and blue is a plausible color for an Innocent Child. Plus, she mentioned Thor + smurf. The whole deal is just ridiculousness upon ridiculousness.

One of this hydra's heads does not really think Messieurs Hortons are scum--from memory, Nexus tends to be lurky and apathetic as scum, so his reaction to us reads as Town who is offended his posts are not being seen as useful.
Regardless, it's a lesser of two evils, and frankly if sangres aren't going to be taking the reins and making something happen we have no good reason to be pushing more righteous wagons.
So... You're not voting Katsuki and instead are apathetically letting town get lynched because we aren't being aggressive enough? I assume I'm misreading something somewhere, because if not :igmeou:

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:46 am
by sangres
In post 1125, Nobody Special wrote:This may not stick (remember, I still have ~8 pages to catch up on):

Vote: Katsuki
You're town!

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:47 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
nacho I had a question for you that you didn't answer D:

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:48 am
by Flipping Awesome
In post 1032, sangres wrote:@FA/F-16

Nacho's response to your meta on Katsuki:

He agrees that katsuki adjusts his play style to the player list, and he thinks that in a player list like this where so many players are meta based katsuki won't play his stereotypical protown-looking scum game because we'd see it for what it is.

Also consider his activity level here versus his activity in Dark Ages of the Law and Natirasha on Parole, two very recent town games.

Nacho would also like you to respond to the flaws he pointed out in Empire's case. His activity here is definitely higher.
So, you are saying he adjusted his scum-meta to manipulate the playerlist? But I am still not seeing why he is scum. Explain it for me.
~ F-16

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:51 am
by Katsuki
He's saying that I'll intentionally play a bad scumgame that's not conducive to advancing my wincon because apparently that's how you win as scum!

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:51 am
by sangres
In post 1129, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:nacho I had a question for you that you didn't answer D:
Ask it again, I missed it/haven't gotten to it

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:52 am
by sangres
In post 1131, Katsuki wrote:He's saying that I'll intentionally play a bad scumgame that's not conducive to advancing my wincon because apparently that's how you win as scum!
BZZZZZT
You're becoming more and more like typical scum Katsuki as the day goes on and I love it.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:56 am
by Katsuki
No I just simply don't have the fire in me that I used to have a few years ago to CAPS MY WAY THROUGH BREAKING DOWN all your bullshit points.

I mean, considering how you had to MAKE UP events from other games to try and back up your "case" against me speaks volumes.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:59 am
by sangres
I misremembered, sorry.
Guess I'm confirmed scum amirite

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:59 am
by sangres
In post 1030, xRECKONERx wrote:VOTE: Tim Howard
NO RECK GOD DAMN IT

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:02 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 655, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 654, sangres wrote:
In post 649, Shadoweh wrote:omg chamber just implied the scum color is green clearly he is scum lets lynch him immediately.
I know this is for histrionic effect mostly, but he didn't imply that at all. He implied that players who like scum roles would react differently to seeing the red font in their role PM.
So how would I react, Nacho?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:03 pm
by sangres
Ecstasy to immediate disappointment.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:04 pm
by sangres
Why won't you let me lynch Katsuki?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:06 pm
by Lost Butterfly
Day 1, VC 39
Tim Howard - (5):
Zdenek, Katsuki, Plum, kanyeknowsbest, xRECKONERx
Venmar - (3):
Nero Cain
, Untrod Tripod, chamber
xRECKONERx - (2):
Lady Lambdadelta, Sixty
Plum - (1):
Flipping Awesome
Katsuki - (5):
sangres, Shadoweh, Tim Howard, ChannelDelibird, Nobody Special

Not voting - (2):
Cerulean, Venmar

With
18
alive it takes
10
to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:
26th of April at 5pm
Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-04-26 12:00:00)
CDB is V/la
[/area]

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:06 pm
by Flipping Awesome
Nacho, you missed my question as well.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:11 pm
by sangres
Nachomamma8 wrote:Katsuki probably town.
Katsuki wrote:NACHO THAT BETTER NOT BE A BACKDOOR INTO A POTENTIAL LOLKATSSCUM YOU KNOW THAT SHIT WON'T FLY
Katsuki wrote:And nacho doesn't have me read as town?

Maybe he is scum. :D
(after i post a bunch of town reads and he isn't included)
Katsuki wrote:
In post 1426, Bert wrote:
In post 1422, Katsuki wrote:And nacho doesn't have me read as town?

Maybe he is scum. :D
there is a limit on how much research i can do to find out from the past and this game that you read people who don't read you as town as scum

y/n
Nacho is different, he should be able to read me easily. Despite my town game being painfully obvious, I don't expect everyone to be able to pick up on it.

There are certain players for which this is a 100% scumtell, such as ooba calling me scum in N's recent game. I apply it very selectively, as I know for which players this scumtell is true for.
How Katuski responded to pressure by me on him in Natirasha on Parole.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:19 pm
by sangres
Dark Age of the Law:

In post 1642, Bertkerberos wrote:I wouldn't be happy with a doduo lynch.
I would be happier with a Katsuki lynch, but probably much happier with a KA lynch.
In post 1650, Katsuki wrote:Huehuehue I almost switched off of you nacho.

Go die.
In post 1690, Katsuki wrote:Ok so apparently both the ICs suck this game gg

I would've pushed you long ago when your wagon was gaining traction as scum, ffery.

w/e

UNVOTE, VOTE: KATSUKI


You guys are never gonna lynch antihero
If nacho's scum you guys are just gonna let him get away anyways
BC has conveniently disappeared
And tar needs no explaining.

Everyone else can be town until these 4 die.
(he mostly had me as a townread before this point)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:44 pm
by Katsuki
No I just never read you before that, no idea who was posting in your hydra.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:50 pm
by sangres
Wagon compositions today are generally pretty unsexy: wagon on Tim Howard has one strong townread, two scumreads, a null-scum read, and a decent townread.

My glory wagon has two strong town, a null town, and a null scum.

Katsuki, why are you voting Tim Howard instead of me? You never really showed any particular interest in Tim Howard before.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:52 pm
by sangres
Katsuki-town means that Kanye is probably scum.
Not really sure how I feel about them being scum together though, to be honest.

Plum-scum seems a decent bet regardless of Katsuki alignment. Venmar/Reck wagons seem mostly town if not all town.
CDB/Katsuki would be an odd combo, but not necessarily impossible.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:54 pm
by sangres
In post 200, Katsuki wrote:
In post 174, sangres wrote:
Vote: Katsuki
LOLOL
NACHO IS THIS LAL YOU GOT?
I didn't really like this response to my vote on him. Katsuki has a pretty strong history of generally leaving me alone until I start suspecting him, and whenever I suspect/vote him, it usually comes with a strong "nacho is scum" declaration. In this scenario, even if he had a budding scumread on me based on earlier posts, I would expect them to be significantly strengthened when I voted him, which wasn't at all the case.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:25 pm
by Katsuki
In post 1146, sangres wrote:Katsuki-town means that Kanye is probably scum.
NICE TO SEE YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOUR SCUMREAD IS FLIPPING

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:42 pm
by Cerulean
I'll be around til a few hours before deadline but not right on that hour. For now, my vote'll go here.

Vote: Plum


Nacho, did you get around to answering the question I asked you a while back about what you expected from Katsuki's reaction as town?