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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:01 pm
by Cloud Nine
Titus wrote:Yeah. You basically sit on your ass while I am getting attacked. You say nothing publically but have your safe little prediction in case a vig shoots Venmar.

TItus, you understand that this game has been on for a little more than 24 hours, right?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:02 pm
by Cloud Nine
This hydra is going to be suffering because Sal and i don't have an easy means of communication and ns decided I was scum pregame and now after posting 45 fucking pages in a single day we're apparently obvscum.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:03 pm
by Cloud Nine
I'm not reading most of this, btw. I'm presuming we've managed to fuck up all the objectives, though.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:06 pm
by borkjerfkin
#5 is hosed, #1 is in an unknown spot (eek looks considerably better than he did but some of the interaction with him vs titus rubbed me weird in a way that I am having trouble articulating)

#3 and #4 have always depended on a scum lynch, #2 on night play. We're playing the day normally as far as the lynch pool now. We should still try to get #3/#4

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:07 pm
by Toogeloo
borkjerfkin wrote:But he's 'worried that there's possibly no scum in those hoods.'
That was a hypothetical question aimed at you, nothing more.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:08 pm
by borkjerfkin
A hypothetical question posed to make your position look reasonable yet at the same time with no basis in reality

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:08 pm
by Cloud Nine
See, if this game started any other weekend I could have taken a better initiative and stop...whatever has happened.

But, alas, personalities and shit.

I hate all of you.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:08 pm
by borkjerfkin
<3

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:09 pm
by borkjerfkin
borkjerfkin wrote:Fuck you

borkjerfkin wrote:If you're town, seriously eat shit.


I apologize for these that was out of line.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:11 pm
by Cloud Nine
bork, you're okay. I appreciated that someone else would actually try to create some town unity.

But, sadly, the playerbase nowadays is two headstrong. So I'm a top scumread now for planning, trying to convince people to follow plans, getting angry and players for ignoring me, and being absent for twelve hours.

Argh.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:11 pm
by SnowStorm
Nero Cain wrote:
SnowStorm wrote:the harder I find it to believe that Loo's actions were scum motivated.

they sure as hell weren't town motivated.


It was apparently self-motivated as he put himself and his interests above town's.

How do you explain a scum motivation?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:11 pm
by Toogeloo
borkjerfkin wrote:A hypothetical question posed to make your position look reasonable yet at the same time with no basis in reality
I never said what I did was reasonable. I did it to shake the game state up. I wanted to point out how foolishly stupid it is to sit here for 40 pages trying to finagle the lynch just right, even though many people voting Eek were starting to town read him. I mean seriously, fucked up priorities. Lynch a town read just so we can progress towards some 1 shot night actions.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:12 pm
by Cloud Nine
muffin you're going to be my white knight, right? Don't like mollie get to you.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:13 pm
by borkjerfkin
@C9: I didn't like your Venmar angle early game. Everything else levied against you I haven't really attempted to corroborate (probably precisely because you haven't been around)

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:13 pm
by Toogeloo
borkjerfkin wrote:
borkjerfkin wrote:Fuck you

borkjerfkin wrote:If you're town, seriously eat shit.


I apologize for these that was out of line.

It's ok... really. I'm thick skinned, and I'd be lying if I said this was the first time I've ever done something as town that I knew would piss people off. I think MagnaofIllusion doesn't like playing with me anymore because I get under his skin with my antics at times. Part of my play style is to be unpredictable. I was fully expecting to get some hate mail for this.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:14 pm
by borkjerfkin
Toogeloo wrote:I never said what I did was reasonable. I did it to shake the game state up. I wanted to point out how foolishly stupid it is to sit here for 40 pages trying to finagle the lynch just right, even though many people voting Eek were starting to town read him. I mean seriously, fucked up priorities. Lynch a town read just so we can progress towards some 1 shot night actions.


But you didn't just try to shift the momentum onto Titus, which would have allowed you to have your cake and eat it, and I can't for the life of me figure out
why.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:15 pm
by SnowStorm
Cloud Nine wrote:bork, you're okay. I appreciated that someone else would actually try to create some town unity.

But, sadly, the playerbase nowadays is two headstrong. So I'm a top scumread now for planning, trying to convince people to follow plans, getting angry and players for ignoring me, and being absent for twelve hours.

Argh.


"It's not me, it's them"? That's your excuse for the scumreads on you?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:16 pm
by Cloud Nine
borkjerfkin wrote:@C9: I didn't like your Venmar angle early game. Everything else levied against you I haven't really attempted to corroborate (probably precisely because you haven't been around)

I was mad at Venmar. I had me and Rogue(I think?) voting for SKOT pregame, but decided Venmar might be powerlynched for posting after your little warning. Meh. I make no hesitations when I say I hate day ones and would much rather have powerlynched and actually started the game with some night actions.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:17 pm
by Cloud Nine
SnowStorm wrote:"It's not me, it's them"? That's your excuse for the scumreads on you?

Yes.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:17 pm
by Cloud Nine
Natirasha wrote:
Cloud Nine wrote:My group is the Outcasts(ns/mala, toogeloo, rubik's ashtray, PV).

Natirasha wrote:Yeah. Our power is most useful in the mid game so I wanna lynch Toogaloo actually. He's the one I found most questionable in our pregame.

Needed to quote these lol.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:17 pm
by borkjerfkin
SnowStorm wrote:But, sadly, the playerbase nowadays is two headstrong. So I'm a top scumread now for planning, trying to convince people to follow plans, getting angry and players for ignoring me, and being absent for twelve hours.


Did anyone actually list any of these as reasons?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:18 pm
by Speaker for the Dead
okay i am caught up.

and jesus christ I can't leave you people alone for a second.

since i was catching up (and it is freshest in my mind) toog seems town cos I felt the very same way. I felt genuinely frustrated by what I was reading.

I agree with titus wrt toog. titus and eek both feel like scum so i am not sure why lynching town in order to achieve a weak neighbourhood role should which scum can manipulate shld take priority over lynching scum. like borky don't you have both eek and titus as townreads? I know that you were working your way up to a scumread on titus but other than you feel like you are "being played here" I am hardpushed as to see why.

town wc >>> town motivation >>> town posts

re: policy lynching - it shld be pretty obvious that I was addressing pl-ing a player cos you donnae like dem rather than pl-ing players based on obtaining an objective. where were people confused about this re: borky.

there seems to be too much steering towards obtaining special abilities at the cost of lynching town and I am so not down with that.

I SAID that we shld give up votes and do foses in thread instead of voting until we coalesced a bit in order to keep track of our suspicions but welp. that didn't happen did it. why not?

cos I am permanent v/la on weekends. this shld be known.
@ mod - can you officially make me v/la on weekends like can it appear in every post count or something?
muffina got busy.

there is every bit of scum motivation to control who gets the neighbourhood powahz am I the only 1 who thinks this?

townreads:

rogue
venny
titus
snow
rubik

how are people managing to ignore that shiny metal thing is beyond me. like they have not made 1 town post yet and somehow...they are being ignored.

mebbe nero mebbe brian

eta: goddman a bunch xposts

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:20 pm
by Speaker for the Dead
SnowStorm wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:
SnowStorm wrote:the harder I find it to believe that Loo's actions were scum motivated.

they sure as hell weren't town motivated.


It was apparently self-motivated as he put himself and his interests above town's.

How do you explain a scum motivation?


I might change my mind on snow.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:20 pm
by Cloud Nine
borkjerfkin wrote:
SnowStorm wrote:But, sadly, the playerbase nowadays is two headstrong. So I'm a top scumread now for planning, trying to convince people to follow plans, getting angry and players for ignoring me, and being absent for twelve hours.


Did anyone actually list any of these as reasons?
Some of it is from ns in the neighborhood, but that is my (biased) interpretation.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:21 pm
by borkjerfkin
Speaker for the Dead wrote:like borky don't you have both eek and titus as townreads? I know that you were working your way up to a scumread on titus but other than you feel like you are "being played here" I am hardpushed as to see why.


I'm trying to get past the WIFOM behind "I am ok with being lynched as long as X happens".

Mollie if you're not townreading me by now I just don't fucking know what to say to you.

Like christ.