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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:18 pm

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On my phone, hard to reply neatly.

I said a long time ago that I had the Key. Back with the list of Conroy Experiment stuff. I hadn't mentioned I could use it, though.

I couldn't use the Nail File last Night because I used the Key instead.

I tried to Oracle, but the initial wording was ambiguous and apparently the Key can interfere with it. I could have used the Oracle on BR, but I didn't. I used it on flames slot and it would have worked only if the Key ability failed.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:21 pm

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OK - I have to say that I thought way back when that was you obfuscating and the Key was not held by you.

Why were you able to use both the Oracle and the Nail File Night 1? The Oracle is a night ability, right?
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:23 pm

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It's probably clear I don't think Dechs is being totally straight with town here, but we might be able to harness him to work with us regardless. Jingle's mod explanation said he'd a survivor wincon with town or scum IIRC. It's probably still easier to win with town. We are running out of suspects for scum here.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:30 pm

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i think he said somewhere oracle isnt an item and he can use both it and an item
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:32 pm

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Wisdom wrote:I dont completely follow the flavor but @xay is there any way Om could have also known darklight is town? He acted like he knew he's town like Flames did, to the point he made me speculate all three are masons.

Not that I'm aware of, he may have his own powers, reads or WK, but we're not masons
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:34 pm

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k, wk is what it was most likely
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:38 pm

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There's so much setup spec wow
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:40 pm

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Wisdom wrote:i think he said somewhere oracle isnt an item and he can use both it and an item


I know, effective jailkeeper, Object stealer and not related to Objects viewer which isn't relating to an object (except now he is claiming it didn't work because lol stuff) sounds a tad too powerful to me. I am comfy he is third party. I just think he needs to come clean here and work for town.

I'd be down for lynching as soon as he steals something on principle I think. I don't think anyone with an object he wants (farside and GM) should hammer. Let's make it impossible for him to win with scum.

Jingle did do a mod post and IIRC he's a third party survivor with town or scum with an extra wincon. So him claiming he can only win with town is shifty IMO.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:41 pm

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Xayzeck wrote:There's so much setup spec wow


I know. It's a rotating powers game though. Or so we thought until this morning and apparently it's not pure because town can't use scum Objects.

I understand your discomfort but I'm not going to apologise for doing it in this instance :)
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:56 pm

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divacat wrote:
It's probably clear I don't think Dechs is being totally straight with town here
, but we might be able to harness him to work with us regardless. Jingle's mod explanation said he'd a survivor wincon with town or scum IIRC. It's probably still easier to win with town. We are running out of suspects for scum here.


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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:02 pm

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I'm British mollie. Deal with it :)
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:02 pm

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Wisdom wrote:its just klaz/guyett

I think ooba could easily make this list.

ANYWAY.

All I got from those billion pages is that Flames is now Xay and Xay is Town.

I could see Om/Guy slot as Scum.
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:10 pm

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VOTE: wis
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:12 pm

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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:13 pm

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unvote
he was first on the AP wagon and his unvote when Guy attempted a lolhammer looked decent.

At least let me sleep and we can argue tomorrow :)
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:30 pm

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mollie,

iso AP and tell me if he was trying to bus wisdom
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:05 pm

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bad romance wrote:mollie,

iso AP and tell me if he was trying to bus wisdom


yes
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:06 pm

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pirate mollie wrote:
bad romance wrote:mollie,

iso AP and tell me if he was trying to bus wisdom


yes


me

but my hydra partner disagrees
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:20 pm

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divacat wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:
bad romance wrote:mollie,

iso AP and tell me if he was trying to bus wisdom


yes


me

but my hydra partner disagrees


what about klazams approach to the AP wagon?
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:44 pm

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I don't know about wisdom, but it sure seemed like ooba was bussing to me. I don't know.

I did think that ap was town to start off, but then it went down hill lol
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:59 pm

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ok nvm ooba is scum.

I just realized that he's saying he has been townreading Om from the beginning - when he actually said that Om and Flames were suspicious for WKing Darklight.
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:14 pm

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No. You're not voting\lynching me.

Let me just re-read the game and find you your scum.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:33 pm

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Theories flew based on old friendships and odd behaviors. "You've known him for years, how could you miss that he'd turned on the Legion?"

"Well, what about you? You've known him just as long. I suppose that you had no suspicions?" They fought and fought, even as they slowly ruled out candidates.


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ooba (0): farside22, Klazam,
Klazam (0): Wisdom,
Wisdom (0):
Dechs Kaison (0):
goodmorning (0):
Om of the Nom (0):
bad romance (0):
hyp0 (0):
divacat (0):
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Not Voting (10): ooba, goodmorning, Flames682, Guyett, Dechs Kaison, bad romance, divacat,


With 10 alive it is 6 to Lynch or 5 to No Lynch.


It is now Day 3. Day 3 ends in (expired on 2015-04-19 18:30:00), on Sunday, April 5th, at 2:00 PM PST.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:05 pm

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Ok. I'm done with Day 2.

Flames

- The asking BR about the object and then going “cool he isn’t lying” is incredibly weird. It's like he wanted to start out reading BR as town and asked the question.

The biggest info point in D2 is when Dechs claimed and Wis pushed AP and there was a huge *backlash* against it. Now, note: scum would do anything in their power to discredit Dechs and just stop him from helping town.

- Wis's reactions to the claim and the way he played it was town. There's no doubt here. Plus AP-his posts didn't feel like a bus.

- Mollie voted Dechs - but there's no way that setup spec from Tere was anything but town
- BR also wanted to kill Dechs - but the pencil confirmation+Mafia starting with kill items points to town. Plus posting has felt town.

- Initially, had Klazam as probably not scum with AP based on interactions between each other after Dechs claim - but I hated that Wis vote for overstitching.
- Plus there is this "waiting on AP lynch. It'll decide a lot of things, like with dechs and ooba." - it was quite clear that AP-scum had given up and stopped posting to avoid giving us info. Acting as though it was anything but confirmed should come from more town than scum.

Guyett

- The 'Lol' hammer
- The asking questions about why AP is scum
makes me think he's town. Not too sure.

Unfortunately, the Flames slot didn't play for most of the day so I can't spot interactions. Reading D3 to catch up and D1 again for reads.

For now, I'm going to say Flames + Klazam.
(Klazam being the scum on the DL wagon)


Other random thoughts:

"Hey, I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and I think it's better if one of the conf-Town players gets the hammer. We'll know the Object is going into Town hands, where BR might possibly (even if it's a tiny chance) not be town. We KNOW that Farside and GM are town."
This made me slightly go that Dechs might be BSing us about the Cigs\GM's item being town.

There's #893 doesn’t make sense - too much flavour gaming. (Plus comb isn’t a bus drive). If anything, I’d say Flames and BR aren’t partners together.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:35 pm

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We're not lynching the Flames slot. Xuy's claimed Wristwatch with no counter claim.

I would be down with a Guy lynch today, I think.

Busy day today, won't have time to do much more than skim until Tuesday.
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