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What do you think of my case on Ranger? I know your vote is already there, but do you think my argument holds any water or not?

In post 1125, Clumsy wrote:What do you think of my case on Ranger? I know your vote is already there, but do you think my argument holds any water or not?

Frankly - I think your case holds exactly zero water. Like a bleak desert landscape. Nothing personal but I don't see scum motivation in not hammering a Town player. That would be passing up a free mislynch when reducing Town is at a premium.

I don't really have anything to add at this point other than that I will not be claiming unless at L-1.

-distant grumbling is heard-

I suppose that's fair. Mrghh. Let me rethink for a while.

In post 1124, MagnaofIllusion wrote:@Telltale – Did you shoot Night 1?

Of course not.

Magna wrote:She lays out a detailed course of action about how to be handle the possibility of additional cleared Town players and whether the hypothetical Town protective role should claim or not.

And then we had someone claim VT, after I had already softclaimed VT, with TellTaleHeart having claimed and SnarkySnowman having claimed. 4/7 players alive...

...And among the three unclaimed?

My strongest scumread, lilith.

Darn right I support a massclaim now, since I have a relevant theory for not just this Earth, but BOTH Earths, about the setup, which I'd need a massclaim to confirm.

In post 1131, Ranger wrote:And then we had someone claim VT, after I had already softclaimed VT, with TellTaleHeart having claimed and SnarkySnowman having claimed. 4/7 players alive...

...And among the three unclaimed?

My strongest scumread, lilith.

Darn right I support a massclaim now, especially since I have a very relevant theory for not just this Earth, but BOTH Earths, about the setup, which I'd need a massclaim to confirm.

The only thing that changed between your initial post and your second was a VT claim by Java.

So no thanks - I don't trust you and your motivations for mass-claim as far as a newborn baby can throw you. Scum Ranger loves to use set-up spec as a means to mislynch (Diffusion of Power anyone?).

MagnaofIllusion wrote:The only thing that changed between your initial post and your second was a VT claim by Java.

'Only'.
Only, that's actually when there's seven alive. One single VT claim, after the explicit claims and the softclaims, can make all the difference.

If lilith is scum (she is), consider this: she knows her scumbuddy, who is either SnarkySnowman or in the unclaimed (most likely).
Even if her scumbuddy isn't in the unclaimed, she now has a 50/50 chance between {you, Clumsy} of hitting a PR that can stop the kill.
Ergo, massclaim.

In post 1133, Ranger wrote:

If

lilith is scum (she is), consider this: she knows her scumbuddy, who is either SnarkySnowman or in the unclaimed (most likely).
Even if her scumbuddy isn't in the unclaimed, she now has a 50/50 chance between {you, Clumsy} of hitting a PR that can stop the kill.
Ergo, massclaim.

Lol. Bolded the critical component that renders the rest of your analysis moot from my point of view.

Ranger-scum on the other hand can't roll the dice on another Town protect foiling another one of her kills. Thus the sudden push for a mass-claim to minimize the chances her team isn't screwed.

In post 1134, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Ranger-scum on the other hand can't roll the dice on another Town protect foiling another one of her kills. Thus the sudden push for a mass-claim to minimize the chances her team

is

screwed.

Bolded EBWOP

I'm finding Magna convincing. I'm down to lynch Ranger. VOTE: Ranger

L-1.

For what it's worth: current theory places it as being a {lilith, Clumsy} scumteam.

I really don't think Ranger is scum this earth :/

Then who?

Ranger wrote:current theory places it as being a {lilith, Clumsy} scumteam.

^

I was asking Snowman, snarky.

I'm still in support of a mass claim, I think it gives us the best option of finding scum today.

I personally think it's Joe and Lilith. MoI and Ranger are clearly trying to solve this earth, and are completely off the table for me. You as well, clumsy.

I'm not feeling this Ranger lynch at all.
VOTE: Lilith

Actually

UNVOTE:

There's a lot more time to go and I want more time to think through things. FOS is still here though.

At this point I’d like to see any sort of reasons from anyone as to why Lilith is scum. What I have seen so far is Ranger giving fluff generic reasoning with no backing or support whatsoever. Which is as compelling as day old bread that’s taken on a bit of mold.

In post 1144, SnarkySnowman wrote:I personally think it's Joe and Lilith.

I’d really like to hear why specifically you think these two are scum.

In post 1143, Javajoe24 wrote:I'm still in support of a mass claim, I think it gives us the best option of finding scum today.

Nope. This isn’t happening. I’m now trying to decide if this is scum Java (and very likely Ranger’s partner if so) pushing a very pro-scum agenda or just Fire and Ice Mafia level bad Town play from you.

In that case, I have a sneaking suspicion on something....

In post 1148, Javajoe24 wrote:In that case, I have a sneaking suspicion on something....

intent to hammer ranger

Ranger is at L-2. Clumsy unvoted. So you can't exactly hammer him.