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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:13 am
by northsidegal
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Internecine
(3): DoYouKnowDeWay, Rem, Hopkirk
Flubbernugget
(1): BuJaber
BuJaber
(2): Sephiroth, Sergtacos
DoYouKnowDeWay
(6): sheepsaysmeep, Not_Mafia, humaneatingmonkey, Katyusha, Internecine, mozamis
humaneatingmonkey
(1): Flubbernugget

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With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch


The day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2018-01-19 12:49:59)

Mod Notes
: Prodding DoYouKnowDeWay

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:13 am
by Katyusha
why are you trying to work out d1 by teams?

if you're town you're just going to wind up confbiasing yourself - start by explaining how my play is scum motivated and let's work from there

like nothing about this change in thoughts feels organic but i dont see the harm in humoring you

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:15 am
by sheepsaysmeep
hop defending against the ucv lynch really does feel unnatural
am i the only one that scumleans seph

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:17 am
by sheepsaysmeep
would it be beneficial to wait for ucv to get replaced and then have the replacement claim
like if he's a strong semi confirmable pr this would be a huge loss
we would still have a lot of time to redirect a lynch too

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:19 am
by sheepsaysmeep
In post 1122, Hopkirk wrote:Does anyone in the game scumread Sheep/NM/Rem
three towns
no

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:20 am
by humaneatingmonkey
my main objective for this wagon is more content. not a lynch. but a lynch is on the table.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:21 am
by Katyusha
In post 1125, northsidegal wrote:Mod Notes: Prodding DoYouKnowDeWay


and now we wait

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:22 am
by Katyusha
In post 1128, sheepsaysmeep wrote:would it be beneficial to wait for ucv to get replaced and then have the replacement claim
like if he's a strong semi confirmable pr this would be a huge loss
we would still have a lot of time to redirect a lynch too
i think so but i cant see him lurking it out

he's either going to request a replace out or catch up and explain himself

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:27 am
by Hopkirk
In post 1126, Katyusha wrote:why are you trying to work out d1 by teams?

if you're town you're just going to wind up confbiasing yourself - start by explaining how my play is scum motivated and let's work from there

like nothing about this change in thoughts feels organic but i dont see the harm in humoring you
Alternatively, I'll explain my thought when I'm ready. It's not like you've been open about detailing your read on me.
In post 1127, sheepsaysmeep wrote:hop defending against the ucv lynch really does feel unnatural
am i the only one that scumleans seph
What's unnatural about 'lets vote scumreads instead of inactives'

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:29 am
by humaneatingmonkey
I mean, if there's a chance Kat is scum, I'd be happy to hear about it. It's not like they're flip associations where you say them out loud right now would compromise reactions. This is just explaining your reads.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:30 am
by Flubbernugget
In post 1110, Katyusha wrote:DYKDW is a big boy, I'm sure he can defend himself on his own. Especially considering his lynch is for more than just inactivity.
You're picking and choosing who has to defend themselves.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:30 am
by sheepsaysmeep
In post 1133, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 1127, sheepsaysmeep wrote:hop defending against the ucv lynch really does feel unnatural
am i the only one that scumleans seph
What's unnatural about 'lets vote scumreads instead of inactives'
like
you dont have a read on ucv
but you seem strongly against his lynch
when we did provide our reasons
it just feels forced

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:30 am
by sheepsaysmeep
kat is obvtown

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:32 am
by Flubbernugget
In post 1126, Katyusha wrote:why are you trying to work out d1 by teams?

if you're town you're just going to wind up confbiasing yourself - start by explaining how my play is scum motivated and let's work from there

like nothing about this change in thoughts feels organic but i dont see the harm in humoring you
This is at hop right?

Because there's another player that's been a lot worse about solving the game via teams.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:33 am
by Katyusha
There's a difference between how hop and hem are doing it flubb

not sure how you think i havent been open about detailing my read on you tho hop

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:33 am
by Flubbernugget
Go on

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:35 am
by Flubbernugget
I'm of the opinion that calling a scumteam d1 is such a fundamentally terrible way to play that picking out the different ways of doing it is false nuance, but this still should be interesting.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:36 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Okay let's talk about other stuff but eyes on the price. I don't want anyone unvoting or moving away from the DeWay wagon.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:38 am
by Flubbernugget
In post 1086, mozamis wrote:just be clear, there is no rush. we can give th eguy a day after his prod.
but the worry always is: that won will start infighting and lose focus and start a wagon on someone else.
So happy to give the guy time, as long as we all agree to a sabbatical while we wait.
Keeping the ucv/alt thing in mind, this is a good post and a good tactic

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:42 am
by Flubbernugget
In post 1122, Hopkirk wrote:There's plenty of targets mafia can easily pick that don't change the conversation.
You know mafia doesn't want to change the conversation how??

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:43 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Ah. Flubb is town.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:43 am
by Katyusha
"I'm going to say I caught the scumteam of Hop/Flub/Sheep in this post but not actually play the game right now as if that's the team because I'm not absolutely sure about some of my other reads." and "There is a possibility I am wrong about Bu considering Hop and Flub are happy to lynch him on D1 when there's other options, I need more data"

vs

"I'm townreading or leaning everyone except a set of 5 people, and these three people have interactions that make me feel like I have found the scumteam"

There's a big difference in these mindsets I think that should be kind of self-explanatory. If not, one is using potential interactions to take a step back and reevaluate in the case he's wrong. The other is coming to a pre-written conclusion.

I don't see what reason Hop has to not explain the scum perspective of my posting.
humaneatingmonkey wrote:Ah. Flubb is town.
I've always been more sure of Hop anyway

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:45 am
by Katyusha
In post 1146, Katyusha wrote:"There is a possibility I am wrong about Bu considering Hop and Flub are happy to lynch him on D1 when there's other options, I need more data"
maybe i should rephrase this

"maybe one of my scumreads is wrong considering the other two are pushing them"

it's the same point but worded more clearly

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:47 am
by Hopkirk
In post 1144, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1122, Hopkirk wrote:There's plenty of targets mafia can easily pick that don't change the conversation.
You know mafia doesn't want to change the conversation how??
Based on my townreads right now.
The focus is on you/me/HeM/Bu.
Haven't finished looking at Bu. If he seems town, they want the focus to remain on us. More specifically, me/Monkey. More likely to prefer thought revaluation to happen later.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:48 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Flubb, why have you been pushing me then? It doesn't feel like any of the reasons you pushed me so far are reasons enough to commit to it? It's not just friction, is it?