Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:02 am
i was heavily considering making an alt where i play full serious
I can go with either Irrelephant or Clemency either. If I'm alive tomorrow I'll follow this game plan.In post 1120, Persivul wrote:erfect. You, me, and bji are in agreement. We lynch one of {Clem, Irrel} today. If that doesn't end it, whichever two of us are alive tomorrow lynch the other one. I strongly prefer Irrel today but if you guys both pledge to abide by this plan, and both want to lynch Clem today, I'll go along with it. Let me know if you agree.
That does deserve some closer inspection. On first blush it just reads like a complete mistake by Garmr whose motivation was to give some actual reasoning for his read on Irrelephant -- motivation could be trying not to be too suspicious for town reading his partner:In post 1129, Clemency wrote:i mean i'm just really wondering on why garmr would lie about his motion detect target when he actually was a scum motion detector
was that like a bus attempt or what
I think the following needs some investigation too:In post 854, Garmr wrote:Btw Just going to claim I'm a motion detector I motion detected Ele there was no movementwhich is why ele is low on my list to lynch.
In post 920, Garmr wrote:Tbh in the game state the way it is we won anyway so it doesn't really matter if I slipped to much.
Yep.In post 1130, bji wrote:That does deserve some closer inspection. On first blush it just reads like a complete mistake by Garmr whose motivation was to give some actual reasoning for his read on Irrelephant -- motivation could be trying not to be too suspicious for town reading his partner:In post 1129, Clemency wrote:i mean i'm just really wondering on why garmr would lie about his motion detect target when he actually was a scum motion detector
was that like a bus attempt or what
In post 854, Garmr wrote:Btw Just going to claim I'm a motion detector I motion detected Ele there was no movementwhich is why ele is low on my list to lynch.
Absolutely not. Don't go down the wifom path. It only leads to madness.I think the following needs some investigation too:
In post 920, Garmr wrote:Tbh in the game state the way it is we won anyway so it doesn't really matter if I slipped to much.
WTF, a day ago you said Irrel or clem. I reread and came to agree with that. Now you're saying sash before clem?In post 1128, bji wrote:Sorry guys I am suddenly the logjam here as I have been kinda busy IRL for the past few days. I still intend to do another ISO re-read before making any vote committment. If Clem is scum and he wins, then oh well. I hardly consider a loss against someone who doesn't really interact with the game much to be a loss. Before a re-read my gut feel is:
Scum
Irrelephant
Sash
Clem
Town
Sorry I keep flip flopping in my mind on Clem vs. Sash. I guess there is some laziness involved because I keep hoping that we don't have to make that choice. And as I said that list was just a gut feel. I will give proper reads soon.In post 1132, Persivul wrote:WTF, a day ago you said Irrel or clem. I reread and came to agree with that. Now you're saying sash before clem?In post 1128, bji wrote:Sorry guys I am suddenly the logjam here as I have been kinda busy IRL for the past few days. I still intend to do another ISO re-read before making any vote committment. If Clem is scum and he wins, then oh well. I hardly consider a loss against someone who doesn't really interact with the game much to be a loss. Before a re-read my gut feel is:
Scum
Irrelephant
Sash
Clem
Town
This is something I’ve noticed but switch my name with bji’sIn post 1137, bji wrote:There is alot to reread but I did notice something very interesting:
Garmr and Irrelephant talk to each other *alot*.
Garmr and Clem talk to each other *some*.
Garmr and Sash talk to each other *never*.
Still reading ...
It's worse than that. I've endgamed inIn post 1135, Irrelephant11 wrote:Meta reading Bji and realizing he endgames as scum in his most recent game (2016) makes me more wary of him than I was previously
Yes my plan was to go back and qualify Garmr's interactions with all players using that same metric, but ostensibly I am supposed to beIn post 1138, Irrelephant11 wrote:This is something I’ve noticed but switch my name with bji’sIn post 1137, bji wrote:There is alot to reread but I did notice something very interesting:
Garmr and Irrelephant talk to each other *alot*.
Garmr and Clem talk to each other *some*.
Garmr and Sash talk to each other *never*.
Still reading ...
Maybe it’s still just sash???
Paranoia is real
The last paragraph here came after Garmr’s slip and is extremely weirdIn post 978, Sashaddin wrote:Clemency:
post 895 tells me to lych him regardless of alignment
his vote/unvote/vote makes think think he could be bussing a scum!garmr
860 is ugh.
bji:
not yet fully redempted, I can still sense a bit of possible scum in his posts. Less reaching than Day 1 but now we're Day 2.
but I feel his mind going into all directions at once, it could be a confused town or a scum blurring his tracks. I could extract a few posts but I'm typing this quick because my wife can need me anytime.
Irrrelephant:
either town a a very good scum game. I could go on more if needed.
Reaper, Persivul, Garmr
being non-lethally targeted can come from many roles from what I've read. So I seee there's a triangle between Persivul, Garmr and Reaper. I can elaborate later. Garmr flipping will eliminate a few of the outcomes I see possible.
I'll post and elaborate more later when I have time.
This is part of why I scum read you.In post 1145, Irrelephant11 wrote:Bji what made me your acummiest read this gameday?
I thought he was town until he made that comment that outed him. He had good opinions I thought but when you know who's who it can be easier to fake stuff up. But he was in my town reads early on.In post 1144, Irrelephant11 wrote:Sashaddin can you explain further why you never once scumread Garmr? I realize the hypocrisy in asking this but want to hear your reasoning