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In post 1122, LolWagons wrote:#464 Skitter:

Sometimes consensus is correct. Ask Sheep about how town had consensus on the Serial Killers game we just played. We decided everyone who was active was town and the replacements both wound up being scum. Consensus =/= wrong

Also podo was in that game too.

i know, i've played a bunch of games recently where it was just the consensus scumreads
but people settling on you/nsg/mastina (your slot wasn't here; mastina hasn't really been as active) doesn't feel like the *right* consensus for this game
idk how to explain that better; this feels like a game where scum might be in the townbloc

Nibbui's intentional opaqueness in the page 23-24ish exchange with podo makes me squirm on that slot

Ugh Nibbui #597 is bad too

And the duck looks good now

Not sure if I buy the retroactive revisionism of "reaction test" on page 25

Sheep do you do "clears" and "never lynches" as town? You just pulled that as scum in our game that finished. Anyone else is welcome to respond as well.

#713 was ew

Don't like the subtle posturing of #812 "Oh why wasn't the person I replaced voting this scummy person" this slot is laying it on thick about the slot being town

I like Mastina's #882 calling out the safe reads list even though I don't agree with the logic

#902 Podo having the same reaction to mastina as I did like eight years ago

Sweet summer child

She grows on you I promise

In post 943, mastina wrote:Btw, skitter's 722 is the first post of skitter's which I've had any feeling on at all, pretty much--and it was positive. I liked it; it wasn't something stellar, but it made me feel loosely town there. 724 actually gives me similarly good vibes, too.

Skitter had like at least three AI posts in their ISO and its concerning you are late to the game on that

I know I'm supposed to be sorting but I am really enjoying Podo reacting to Mastina and that's probably not funny to either party but it is hilarious to me

Okay scumreads this game are weak but I'm pretty damn confident in

(Podo, Skitter) town and pretty -no damn- confident in (Sheep, Pink Ball) town.

NSG's contrived reads list and her clunky replace-out, along with Meph's not subtle AND subtle attempts at posturing the slot as town and a mislynch .

Their whole entrance is on the only real counterwagon they have a shot at

#991 is very bad, Meph says the slot is town and then basically threatens it with a scumread for Sheep scumreading her

#994 is also kind of bad, considering their last post is #916 and has Skitter as a town read. Then she throws shade on Skitter for being the third vote.

There's some isolated sorting in there but it all seems contigent on whether the slot is voting Meph or not. I don't like how quickly they abandon townreads who vote them and how they don't even really do it directly, as was the case with Skitter and Sheep.

Lolwagons that behavior can come from town!Nancy tbh.

She actually does all that you're claiming to be scummy as town.

She tries to replicate that as town though and I'm currently trying to discern the details between scum!Nancy and town!Nancy

but yeah, even if she is scum here it's definitely not for those reasons

She tries to replicate that as scum****

I meant

I'm currently trying to find solid differences between scum!Nancy and town!Nancy basically yeah

she gets scum read a lot for this behavior

Very interesting by the way that you're not town reading me lolwagons

Meh.

I think part of what has made this game so grueling is the overuse of meta.

With all the talk y’all have done about it any player could probably earn a townread from half the town just by following the outlines that have been put in place in thread. I try to use meta more retroactively.

Like, the Sheep thing about clears. That’s done. He can’t take that back and it’s not subjective or vague.

In post 1140, Nibbui wrote:Very interesting by the way that you're not town reading me lolwagons

I was the first half of the game, then after the reaction test you shifted to constant pontificating and vote switching and promising reads tomorrow or whatever and it looked way less goal-oriented sorting and way more like trying to stay busy.

In post 1140, Nibbui wrote:Very interesting by the way that you're not town reading me lolwagons

Also do I know you? Do you know me?

Why would you expect me to townread you

Why would I try to make it look like I'm busy reading people games when I can just keep giving comments on posts in-thread and keep the status quo in my town read?

Also I'm not stupid enough to promise something only to not deliver it later

In post 1143, LolWagons wrote:

In post 1140, Nibbui wrote:Very interesting by the way that you're not town reading me lolwagons

Also do I know you? Do you know me?

Why would you expect me to townread you

I'm not expecting you to townread me tbh

just interested in your read on me since everyone else was town reading me apparently

In post 1141, LolWagons wrote:Meh.

I think part of what has made this game so grueling is the overuse of meta.

With all the talk y’all have done about it any player could probably earn a townread from half the town just by following the outlines that have been put in place in thread. I try to use meta more retroactively.

Like, the Sheep thing about clears. That’s done. He can’t take that back and it’s not subjective or vague.

I'm not putting any outlines here to Nancy to follow

I tried first to get interactions with her only to afterwards explain whatever alignment her posts might indicate that she has

what you are scum reading Nancy for is NAI as a fact even if she is scum, and that's also a fact. I'm just pointing it out.

She can still be scum but not for those reasons.

In post 1146, Nibbui wrote:

In post 1141, LolWagons wrote:Meh.

I think part of what has made this game so grueling is the overuse of meta.

With all the talk y’all have done about it any player could probably earn a townread from half the town just by following the outlines that have been put in place in thread. I try to use meta more retroactively.

Like, the Sheep thing about clears. That’s done. He can’t take that back and it’s not subjective or vague.

I'm not putting any outlines here to Nancy to follow

I tried first to get interactions with her only to afterwards explain whatever alignment her posts might indicate that she has


what you are scum reading Nancy for is NAI as a fact even if she is scum, and that's also a fact. I'm just pointing it out.

She can still be scum but not for those reasons.

Yeah I’m not really going to let you draw the lines on what should and shouldn’t be a scumtell for each player. Quite frankly I’m not particularly interested in your opinion when you try to frame it as a fact.

My first game back I drove a lynch on BrightEyedFish and everyone told me everything he did was NAI and he was lynchbait but what do ya know he flipped scum. I don’t typically get talked out of scum reads by meta talk.

/shrug

This is the first game I'm playing this way so I'll not insist

Also I'm not done with my metric on her and she has not many posts

I'll do a case on her being town though if in the end my final read on her is that she is town (who knows, I can change my mind)

if you guys buy it or not I dunno however

kinda read up

UNVOTE:

need to think abt this when im out of class but for now i think i was tunneling a bit hard earlier

lolwagons discomfort take with nibbui is interesting
i disagree with it but it’s actually very believable and i think it’s almost always genuine

rest of their catchup is mostly just ehh could go either way

@lolwagons why were you v reading me

also i use the terminology clears and stuff as either alignment it just describes someone who i think is very obvious v