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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:24 am
by Vedith
Okay I'm going to reveal and we can just get my lynch over with.
Personally I feel at a loss as all the wagons feel town and are just bad.
I am Fuko Ibuki
Unlocked from night 1 - each day
and
night I can target someone to give a wooden starfish to.
Unlocked from night 2 - if someone has 3 or more wooden starfish on them i can protect them but they will forget and lose all wooden starfish (message says about 'forgetting something important' to the player).
Unlocked from night 3 - when targeting a player to give a wooden starfish to, I can also target a second target that has no wooden starfish to also receive one.
So i confirmed the following.
My protect works for the day phase or the night phase and I can use this action instead of giving out starfish. The protection does not prevent a lynch.
Nothing happens if a player receives 4 or more starfish, all are still lost when protected.
If my second target has a starfish only the original player will receive a starfish.
There is no message for receiving a starfish to the player, only when protected.
I'm helping \o/
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:15 am
by Pink Ball
I'd rather be lynched over Vedith. That way you guys will focus on real scum, like Gamma who's vote on me is basically a scumclaim
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:36 am
by singletonking
Hmm
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:38 am
by singletonking
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:39 am
by Near x Mello
VOTE: mastina
don't feel like lynching vedith anymore so I'll vote who mello wants
~Near
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:39 am
by singletonking
Vedith role seems town
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:40 am
by singletonking
WHat's the case on Mastina
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:40 am
by Near x Mello
I can also vote drixx if he gains more traction
gamma and pink I'd rather not
~Near
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:47 am
by singletonking
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:48 am
by Clemency
VOTE: Gamma
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:48 am
by Clemency
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:51 am
by singletonking
Sorry
Fuko Ibuki from Clannad is 2007
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:56 am
by singletonking
@MOD: Will you accept
Fuuko Ibuki as a pick, since she featured in Clannad, an anime whose first season aired in 2007?
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:03 am
by Reasonably Psychotic
In post 1125, Vedith wrote:Okay I'm going to reveal and we can just get my lynch over with.
Personally I feel at a loss as all the wagons feel town and are just bad.
I am Fuko Ibuki
Unlocked from night 1 - each day
and
night I can target someone to give a wooden starfish to.
Unlocked from night 2 - if someone has 3 or more wooden starfish on them i can protect them but they will forget and lose all wooden starfish (message says about 'forgetting something important' to the player).
Unlocked from night 3 - when targeting a player to give a wooden starfish to, I can also target a second target that has no wooden starfish to also receive one.
So i confirmed the following.
My protect works for the day phase or the night phase and I can use this action instead of giving out starfish. The protection does not prevent a lynch.
Nothing happens if a player receives 4 or more starfish, all are still lost when protected.
If my second target has a starfish only the original player will receive a starfish.
There is no message for receiving a starfish to the player, only when protected.
I'm helping \o/
Are people aware of having received starfish, and their current starfish count?
Does the protection prevent 1 kill, all kills, or something in between?
If targets are aware of being sent starfish, are they aware of the loss of said starfish?
Can you send a starfish to someone the same phase that you protect someone?
Can you protect multiple slots who have sufficient starfish in the same phase? How about in a day/night cycle, one for each?
Let me think about this balance wise.
D1/N1: A 1 starfish/A 2 starfish
D2/N2: A 3 starfish/protection option OR B 1 starfish(1x doc)
D3/N3: A 3 starfish, B 2 starfish/ A 3 starfish, B 3 starfish, C 1 starfish(2x doc)
D4/N4: A 3 starfish, B 3 starfish, C 2 starfish, D 1 starfish/ A 3 B 3 C 3 D 1 E 1(3x Doc)
D5/N5: A 3 B3 C 3 D 2 E 1 F 1 / A 3 B3 C3 D 3 E 1 F 1 G 1
Please check on the answers to my questions and get back to us here, thanks.
-Yukiteru
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:04 am
by Reasonably Psychotic
This is a valid question but a dumb concern.
If scum, fake claims should be assumed to exist; a fake claim failing to follow the rules of the game is just as likely as the moderator failing to properly curate pick submissions, and therefore NAI.
-Yukiteru
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:05 am
by singletonking
^Possibly scum regardless of Vedith's alignment (
138)
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:05 am
by singletonking
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:07 am
by Reasonably Psychotic
Oh? Because I know how to force answers about role claims that can give individuals with potentially similar roles reasons to either believe or disbelieve claims?
-Yukiteru
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:08 am
by Reasonably Psychotic
In post 1142, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:
Oh? Because I know how to force answers about role claims that can give individuals with potentially similar roles reasons to either believe or disbelieve claims?
-Yukiteru
Well, not force answers...but at least ask the *right* questions.
-Yukiteru
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:21 am
by Vedith
In post 1138, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:Are people aware of having received starfish, and their current starfish count?
Does the protection prevent 1 kill, all kills, or something in between?
If targets are aware of being sent starfish, are they aware of the l.oss of said starfish?
Can you send a starfish to someone the same phase that you protect someone?
Can you protect multiple slots who have sufficient starfish in the same phase? How about in a day/night cycle, one for each?
I'll confirm.
To my knowledge they only know when they lose the starfish.
I cannot send a starfish and protect, but I can protect day and night in a row if there are enough players with 3+ starfish
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:27 am
by singletonking
Vedith do you confirm Fuko Ibuki as your flavor
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:28 am
by Vedith
I do \o/
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:34 am
by Reasonably Psychotic
In post 1144, Vedith wrote: In post 1138, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:Are people aware of having received starfish, and their current starfish count?
Does the protection prevent 1 kill, all kills, or something in between?
If targets are aware of being sent starfish, are they aware of the l.oss of said starfish?
Can you send a starfish to someone the same phase that you protect someone?
Can you protect multiple slots who have sufficient starfish in the same phase? How about in a day/night cycle, one for each?
I'll confirm.
To my knowledge they only know when they lose the starfish.
I cannot send a starfish and protect, but I can protect day and night in a row if there are enough players with 3+ starfish
Please ask the moderator whether or not those you send a starfish to are aware of having received said starfish, and/or how many starfish they have remaining.
So, this is *partially* self-resolving, but not well enough I think. We can establish that people lose starfish, but not what effect that has. It's strictly a weaker doctor variant, which..I don't know how I feel about? The likelihood of the claim being real is dependent on the number of *other* protective roles in the game, which is something that we don't know. This claim sounds like a plausible cover for an SK Arsonist type variant, or any number of other potential anti-town roles that involve "marking" someone; without any way to prove what happens, not really any way to figure out the alignment behind the claim based on the claim alone...
Which, ya know, is generally how it goes.
-Yukiteru
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:35 am
by singletonking
Well then
Maybe the mod will confirm that you're scum
@Vedith
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:35 am
by singletonking
In post 1139, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:
This is a valid question but a dumb concern.
If scum, fake claims should be assumed to exist; a fake claim failing to follow the rules of the game is just as likely as the moderator failing to properly curate pick submissions, and therefore NAI.
-Yukiteru
Although this is a concern I have as well