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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:07 am
by Something_Smart
I'm down.

VOTE: Aaron

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:35 am
by DrDolittle
In post 1113, Creature wrote:I think there should have two scum in here:

Datisi, Amrun, DrDolittle, AaronFrost
is this just from the last 4 people that voted you or does this have any addl substance behind it

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:36 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 1124, Creature wrote:The tell is pretty obvious:

If it's a player I can immediately tell it's town and I can't tell it's town this game in any way, it means it's just scum
can you link me to the games where you could immediately tell AF was town?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:36 am
by GuiltyLion
or just name them if you don't wanna grab links

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:37 am
by Salamence20
Idk how I feel

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:42 am
by Salamence20
I dont like the fact there wasnt a claim.

I dont like the fact we are going after aaron with less than 24 hours.

I dont like how SS just bought it.

I dont like creature going “hahaha I was here all along”

I dont like any of this

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:43 am
by Salamence20
I mean it matches what Ive come to expect of creature BUT WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR GAMES.

He should have been here earlier

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:49 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1131, Salamence20 wrote:He should have been here earlier
Yeah.

But who do you think was most harmed by him not showing up earlier?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:55 am
by Salamence20
Town if he is town.

If hes scum, his scumbuddies who didnt bus

Remember prior to me voting creature you werent willing to do either wagon at the time and it looked like we were going nowhere.

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:56 am
by Salamence20
Youre going to have to explain this to me like im 5 to make me believe im not voting scum right now

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:59 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1133, Salamence20 wrote:Town if he is town.

If hes scum, his scumbuddies who didnt bus
In particular, himself, regardless of his alignment.

If he's town, he thought he could make up for it by getting reads based on how people treated his wagon.

If he's scum, he thought... (Fill in the blanks. Why did he continue to lurk after being wagoned for lurking?)

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:00 am
by Creature
I won't ever claim

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:01 am
by Something_Smart
I don't think it's impossible for him to be scum but you should certainly not be that confident.

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:01 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 1135, Something_Smart wrote:If he's scum, he thought... (Fill in the blanks. Why did he continue to lurk after being wagoned for lurking?)
maybe he thought he could gamble on Menalque effectively driving the DDL counterwagon to save his skin

not saying that's like the
most
likely explanation, but it's not unreasonable that scum him would continue to lurk

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:01 am
by Creature
I am leaving some reads if I am mislynched and your second chance is to follow them

If you don't, I take zero part of this loss, you're the one who harmed yourself

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:01 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1136, Creature wrote:I won't ever claim
Um

That's a bad policy.

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:02 am
by Creature
In post 1138, GuiltyLion wrote:not saying that's like the most likely explanation, but it's not unreasonable that scum him would continue to lurk
Not D1

I can lose the gas any other day but D1

I won't ever allow myself to get lynched as scum D1

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:03 am
by Creature
In post 1140, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1136, Creature wrote:I won't ever claim
Um

That's a bad policy.
That's like what I do every game

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:03 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 1127, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1124, Creature wrote:The tell is pretty obvious:

If it's a player I can immediately tell it's town and I can't tell it's town this game in any way, it means it's just scum
can you link me to the games where you could immediately tell AF was town?
Creature you should answer this because it will give your read on AF a lot more validity if we can see that there are immediately noticeable differences in AF's play

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:03 am
by Salamence20
In post 1135, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1133, Salamence20 wrote:Town if he is town.

If hes scum, his scumbuddies who didnt bus
In particular, himself, regardless of his alignment.

If he's town, he thought he could make up for it by getting reads based on how people treated his wagon.

If he's scum, he thought... (Fill in the blanks. Why did he continue to lurk after being wagoned for lurking?)
Because he wasnt worried about being lynched meaning that theres a good chance those who voted him were town.

...why arent we lynching this guy? Hes the best source of information at this point?

Why are you on Aaron now when you had plenty of chances earlier? What is it about creature that made you think AF is scum?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:03 am
by Something_Smart
But you'll allow yourself to get lynched as town D1?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:03 am
by Creature
unless it's MU

MU necessitates massclaiming D1 because town sucks at not lynching important town roles when they're claimed 2 days later

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:05 am
by Creature
In post 1143, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1127, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1124, Creature wrote:The tell is pretty obvious:

If it's a player I can immediately tell it's town and I can't tell it's town this game in any way, it means it's just scum
can you link me to the games where you could immediately tell AF was town?
Creature you should answer this because it will give your read on AF a lot more validity if we can see that there are immediately noticeable differences in AF's play
I have this:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80540

I had one other game in mind but can't link it rn

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:06 am
by Creature
In post 1144, Salamence20 wrote:...why arent we lynching this guy? Hes the best source of information at this point?
Typical say before an obvious mislynch on a target that gives no actual info because everyone was like "oh his lynch gives info"

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:07 am
by Creature
In post 1145, Something_Smart wrote:But you'll allow yourself to get lynched as town D1?
I will care less because I like to insult town for being stupid af (more of masochism)

Still, I am somewhat trying rn