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In post 1127, bob3141 wrote:@drew-sta i was asking about what you think about your slots prior post 863

Why is that relevant? I am my own person. My predecessor played the game in their way. I play it in my way. All that matters is I am trying to work toward towns best interest and lynch the mafia.

In post 1128, bob3141 wrote:Drew-sta serously. Arer you taking credit for the mav lynch. All day oen your slot was pushign it as town. And then when you rep in you hold off on hammering him.

At most you could ever say is that you came round to vote for mavs. Certainly not that you were architect of teh mav lynch. Which just absurd.

Mav even got up to l-1 at times before you repped in when you slot wasnt in the game

Ok, maybe it is a bit far for me to go to claim I lead mavs lynch. But it is clear to me that he was stalling and things progressed when I made my first post.

All I'm saying is it was clear mavs was scum. And he was far scummier than Titus ever presented.

I held off hammering as I wanted more feedback from mala as I wanted to ensure we were aligned, as I currently read her town.

In post 1129, bob3141 wrote:Drew-Sta so whats your read on me?

As it seems you still have me in a poe. Explain how you some how come to the reachy conclusion that bob vs mav was SvS

I believe you present as scum. Have you read my first post? mav was buddying you all day one. Your gap in day two (ie your quietness) registered to me as someone trying to hide. Then, when it was clear as day mav was going to get lynched day three, you and mavs went toe to toe. That looked like a bus to me if ever there was one.

In post 1130, bob3141 wrote:

In post 1125, Drew-Sta wrote:@Dany - I have no idea what the team is. The fact you keep lumping teams together as if one combination only makes sense so you must disregard all others if you're going to push a scumread is, IMHO, an easy way to dismiss concern regarding you. My reads are you, trollie, bambi, bob right now. How that works, I don't know and I don't care. You can twist and distort any theory put together as scum to play down the reality of who you are. My theory on why I think you are scum is based entirely on your posts - not some possible scum team I have to fit you all into for it to be a paradigm can be challenged and allow obfuscation.

Your posts make you scum based off going through the entire thread post by post and working out what you've done. The fact you hammered Titus emphasises that. The fact you sat on EJ who flipped town, and you rammed into him mindlessly emphasises that. You at no point have voted for Mavs, and only jumped on him in D3 I believe because you and mavs knew mavs was likely to get lynched, and starting it off gave you a chance to play the 'I lead the lynch on mavs'. You've formed no read on him really before 767 and there was no reasoning why that was the case, and instead of voting and pushing for him in D2 you instead hammer Titus. It reeks. The fact you've had a scum read on Allo, BBMolla, Titus and EJ who have all turned town is both good enough for me to believe you're either incapable of forming an accurate scumread on the game and leads me to believe you deliberately bussed mav's, since your previous read have been rubbish.

And yes you are changing focus on yourself by identifying other targets you believe I should be pursuing. Do you think mala is scum? Yes. And you have to, in order for me and other townies to push on another mis-lynch that will benefit you. So, you'll draw on her not saying anything to get me to focus on someone else that isn't you. Mala has contributed enough for me that I believe I know where she stands. I may be wrong but that's the chance we take.

Fuck it. I'm going to back my gut. VOTE: iDanyboy

Dany why do you think dany is scum based on his hammer of titus. Why do you think scum hammers in that situation

When two other slots have said that they would vote for titus and a 3rd was saying titus was likely scum.

So if dany is scum then at most of those two could be scum. Your slot and trollie.

So why do you think a scum danny hammers titus rather than waiting for a townie to hammer. As if he was scum he woudl know if either both or which one was town.





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Also point us at these posts you mention in the first bit. All you have said what you claim his posts have done but not provided any examples to prove you point. Just looks like shade

Because they basically didn't read Titus as scum (wasn't pushed), didn't think the lynch was a good one (790) and then tried to bus Allo in 810 calling their vote on Titus weird, then hammered Titus immediately after in 811. How are you not getting this? He clearly saw it as an opportunity, took it, and then no-one has questioned him on it? Are you not reading this right? He rode EJ to death who was town. Then hammered Titus, who was town. Then bussed mav when it was clear mav was gone.

Why on earth are you defending them? What is so important to them living in your eyes? Why is it you and Dany arguing with me yet others are not? Why are you so passionate in the defence of it? Why are you picking up arguments he has made (the pushing the lynch) and defending him with it?

In post 1131, bob3141 wrote:Drew-sta if you think dannyi is scum then why do you think he kills allomancer to night rather than next night.

As would nt a player who thinks he couldnt be scum with mav be a boon to a scum dannyi.

Would scum dannyi get rid of a threat to him. Rather than a player he could assuem would town read him after mavs flip

Your english in this is hurting my brain. I'm not sure I'm understanding you properly. But from what I think, Dany kills them because they KNOW Allo is the other neighbour to BB based on Bambi being in BB's neighbourhood. Meaning, it was a clear townie who was talking to people that was targeted. Plus, with Trollie, me and Bambi alive, there was enough doubt you could work in. Allo was clear townie. Getting rid of them meant creating confusion.

In post 1132, iDanyboy wrote:

In post 1125, Drew-Sta wrote:@Dany - I have no idea what the team is. The fact you keep lumping teams together as if one combination only makes sense so you must disregard all others if you're going to push a scumread is, IMHO, an easy way to dismiss concern regarding you. My reads are you, trollie, bambi, bob right now. How that works, I don't know and I don't care. You can twist and distort any theory put together as scum to play down the reality of who you are. My theory on why I think you are scum is based entirely on your posts - not some possible scum team I have to fit you all into for it to be a paradigm can be challenged and allow obfuscation.

Your posts make you scum based off going through the entire thread post by post and working out what you've done. The fact you hammered Titus emphasises that. The fact you sat on EJ who flipped town, and you rammed into him mindlessly emphasises that. You at no point have voted for Mavs, and only jumped on him in D3 I believe because you and mavs knew mavs was likely to get lynched, and starting it off gave you a chance to play the 'I lead the lynch on mavs'. You've formed no read on him really before 767 and there was no reasoning why that was the case, and instead of voting and pushing for him in D2 you instead hammer Titus. It reeks. The fact you've had a scum read on Allo, BBMolla, Titus and EJ who have all turned town is both good enough for me to believe you're either incapable of forming an accurate scumread on the game and leads me to believe you deliberately bussed mav's, since your previous read have been rubbish.

And yes you are changing focus on yourself by identifying other targets you believe I should be pursuing. Do you think mala is scum? Yes. And you have to, in order for me and other townies to push on another mis-lynch that will benefit you. So, you'll draw on her not saying anything to get me to focus on someone else that isn't you. Mala has contributed enough for me that I believe I know where she stands. I may be wrong but that's the chance we take.

Fuck it. I'm going to back my gut. VOTE: iDanyboy

I have not told you who to pursue, all my post's this day have been defending myself apart from one which was me stating my POE. I have only mentioned Mala in response to you because it seemed you were because you wanted a response from him. This seemed odd to me then because you were blaming Gera then Trollie for hammering when Mala the one who you kept saying you wanted a response from posted but ignored me didn't make sense. This is the only time I have brought up Mala in response to you.

Titus was going to be the lynch I don't get how me hammering makes me ssum.

I also don't get why me pushing EJ is scummy. I thought he was scum and I explained why, I was wrong but that doesn't make me scummy. I don't know why you bringing up how wrong I am as a reason to lynch me? I may have bad scum reads but I can still be right some of the time.

I also want to reiterate about mavs that no one was pushing him at all. You're saying I knew mavs was going to be lynched but how? No one was pushing him, no one was mentioning him, he was under no pressure whats so ever. So if your are town you need to read day 2/3 properly. i lynched Titus because it was the lynch there was no changing that. I found mavs scummy on day two and I tried to get a conversation going about him but I wasn't getting anywhere, Titus was going to be the lynch so I hammered. Then I pushed mavs when there was no pressure on him and if you want to dispute this show me some posts of him getting pressure. For me to pressure mav's in that situation if I was scum would make no sense as I had at least one miss lynch opportunity.

This is retarded logic. So you're just happy to lynch townies knowing their townies because it's inevitable? That's scum behaviour right there. If you're town, and you believe someone is town, you don't be part of that lynch. Fucking simple.

Secondly, you pushing EJ is scummy BECAUSE THEY FLIPPED TOWN! Titus was basically lynched for the EJ case she made. Why weren't you when you sat on EJ ALL DAY 1?

You are so presenting as scum.

1&2 Of course I've gotten it wrong as town. But it's not about whether I've gotten it right or wrong as town. It's about the case I'm making for you. Let's look at some facts.
349 you vote BB (town), read Allo as scum, and EJ as very scum, and have mavs as unsure. You town read bob after buddying him in your early posts - 114 (bob wagon is bad). Then you flip to EJ in 377 and you sat there for the rest of the day. You also were called out by MT in 55, who is another townie that has been killed N1. Let's analyse this further:

* You've scum read three confirmed townies.
* You scum read Skellen's slot, which ended up being Titus, who you also scum read - confirmed towny. Who called you out in 498.
* You defended mavs (conf scum) in 567
* Then you defend a bob flash wagon (good ole boddying again) in 608, while expressing we lynch EJ (Why not bob? Why EJ? You never formed an EJ case at all!), pushing again in 667 and defending bob in 676 and continuing to throw shade at Allo 681
* You then claim TITUS of all people should have been shot night one, meaning they must be scum /sarcasm face/ and then start to throw shade at Titus 720. You then press your claim on Titus caliming she hasn't made a case, yet YOU HAVEN'T MADE A CASE AT ALL ON TITUS! You've just looked to lead a lynch on her due to the EJ flip as town, DESPITE THE FACT IT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID! (723)
* You plan the seed on Mav and bob in 767 - no case against bob; you just reread it and magically think everyone should believe you
* 771 is the weakest defence I've ever read of why you are town. It's convoluted and designed to confuse.
* 786 and 787 you basically claim Titus is scum and all her reads are town (read - mav, you) cause she's scum,
* mav bus again 800
* Let's buddy bob again 810
* Then ole famous hammer in 811

823 is the exact same response as 704 and basically is you absolving your responsibility as 'I fucked up.' It's not you fucked up. It's that you never formed a case and kept on at those targets until they got there. Your supposed impatience (823) is just ridiculous and so contradictory of 790 where you say we should make more scum reads. It's as if you were deliberately fishing for idea's for your NK.