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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:58 am
by Datisi
Official Vote Count 2.01
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With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Lynching
Quagsire
(1): Looker
GeorgeBailey
(1): Chemist1422

Not Voting
(5): GeorgeBailey, Alduskkel, Quagsire, skitter30, Captain the Furret

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-04-09 13:45:00).

Mod notes:
  • skitter30 standing V/LA Fridays and Saturdays.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:59 am
by Captain the Furret
noms iso is a mess no offense
if you wanna start someone, doing a joint ISO of Mena + George would be the best imo

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:59 am
by Looker
Are Amrun and skitter30 the same person?

Also: Just because you don't understand someone, does that make them scum? Can I lynch someone solely because they don't play the way I like?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:00 am
by Chemist1422
In post 1126, Captain the Furret wrote:noms iso is a mess no offense
if you wanna start someone, doing a joint ISO of Mena + George would be the best imo
oh okay

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 am
by Chemist1422
Mena/GB
nomcubed
: =18 =143 =146 -?163 +?176 +?183 +?189 -193 =268 =270 +274 =311 +320 R +606 +?852 v1073

Quags
: v33 -190 =219 =220 +274 +456 R ==606

Heaven/Chemist
: v88 -?98 -126 -136 u173 +274 R r -606 -610

skitter
: =134 =151 =155 +274 +283 +301 R +606

Aldus
: +?-?179 -190 -266 -274 -282 R -606

Captain
: -?186 ==274 -?283 +297 -?301 R +606

Luca
: -190 -266 -274 v276 -282 -317 -322 -329 R +604 +606

Looker
: -190 =267 +274 +278 +279 +280 R =604 -606 -611

Datisi
: -305


this is probably too much tbh

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:15 am
by Chemist1422
but hey I did the thing

are you proud of me

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:21 am
by Captain the Furret
Its definitely not perfect but its pretty good!
Better then Taly's first time at tackling them

want a reward?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:32 am
by Chemist1422
yes please

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:23 am
by Captain the Furret
wat would ya like

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:34 am
by Chemist1422
uhhh I haven't thought that far ahead yet

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:58 am
by GeorgeBailey
So, Ald or Quag was probably the counter wagon to nom, and nom self-voting was to prevent other people from being townread (I think?). Nom's aggressive scumreading near the end of the lynch, her defense of Quag is kind of puzzling since scumreading him would probably have saved her there.
In post 1083, Datisi wrote:nomnomnom (5): skitter30, Captain the Furret, GeorgeBailey, Luca Blight, nomnomnom [LYNCH]
Alduskkel (2): Chemist1422, Looker
Captain the Furret (1): Quagsire
Quagsire (1): Alduskkel
I don't think scum would heavily townread their partner so early on, so for me it's pretty much between Looker and Chemist. Looker hasn't commented on voting Ald, Quag apologized profusely and Chemist kind of mentions it . Pretty much between {Chemist,Looker, Quag}, in order of most to least suspecting.

I'm a bit hesitant to vote right now, since it only takes 4. But I feel very confident that i'll be voting Looker, Chemist soon.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:41 pm
by skitter30
In post 1087, Captain the Furret wrote:Alright Skitter, let’s talk.
No lynches before me and Skitter get to talk this out fully
I'm around for the next 45 min or so
I havent reread anything overnight but i'm leaning towards voting quag rn

Looker i think is prob town
Ali is town
Chemist ... i really do think heaven was townposting for them but chemist's associatives are awful and i'm wondering if i'm putting too much stock in heaven's posts
I literally dont remember what i thought about aldu
I think gb is maybe town ?

I think {quag, chemist, aldu} solves the game
With a small chance of it being gb but i dont think this is super likely

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:42 pm
by skitter30
In post 1089, Captain the Furret wrote:Tho if that fight with noms super early was theater between nom v mena, I kind of feel like its more relevant?
Right, that was a thing. Gun-to-head that wasnt theater imo
What do u like about aldu?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:43 pm
by skitter30
In post 1097, Chemist1422 wrote:aldus probably town? the basis for my scumread on them doesn't hold up anymore since nom flipped scum
Can you elaborate on this plz?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:44 pm
by Captain the Furret
I definitely plan on mapping Aldusk and Looker.
From what I remember on Aldusk, he seemed like was trying to solve and honestly, his noms read kinda feels town?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:44 pm
by skitter30
In post 1098, Alduskkel wrote:I'm like 99% sure we should lynch Quagsire today.

I am curious how certain skitter is that Chemist/Heaven is town. If we can set that slot aside as town then the game becomes a lot cleaner, because I'm also 99% sure that skitter and Captain are town. A lynch order of Quag-->Me-->George is nearly a guaranteed win in that case. (Including my own lynch since I'm definitely in the scummier half of the playerlist.)
Ok actually this is a townie entrance ^

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:45 pm
by Captain the Furret
I plan on mapping out Looker and Aldusk
Maybe we can get a Quag map goin

Once we have the maps done, we can discuss who is likely to be scum with noms.
I think it’ll be easier once we have everyone’s progression out in the open

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:46 pm
by skitter30
I have to reread his iso

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:46 pm
by skitter30
In post 1141, Captain the Furret wrote:I plan on mapping out Looker and Aldusk
Maybe we can get a Quag map goin

Once we have the maps done, we can discuss who is likely to be scum with noms.
I think it’ll be easier once we have everyone’s progression out in the open
Sounds like a plan

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:49 pm
by skitter30
In post 1113, Chemist1422 wrote:VOTE: GB
I dont like this vote

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:49 pm
by skitter30
In post 1127, Looker wrote:Are Amrun and skitter30 the same person?

Also: Just because you don't understand someone, does that make them scum? Can I lynch someone solely because they don't play the way I like?
No

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:51 pm
by skitter30
I guess the thing with quad, which i raised before, is that i dont know why nom goes out on a limb to defend him, thus putting herself in a shitty position in the gamestate, if he *wasn't* her partner

And uh chemist dancing around the nom wagon is p bad

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:52 pm
by Captain the Furret
I think I want to rule out George and Noms
If we’re going by the map Chemist posted, Mena really never had a solid stance on noms and I feel like scum!mena has a more solidified stance on noms

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:55 pm
by skitter30
In post 527, Alduskkel wrote:My impression is that nom has been somewhat emotional/confrontational which has attracted votes but I don't think there's scum motive. Why try to provoke Luca into a 1v1 instead of deflecting? In a Luca vs. nom battle I think Luca is more likely to win and I think nom knows that as scum. As town, if she thinks Luca's scum then it might be an uphill battle but at least she's pursuing scum.

I don't agree with what she's said about Luca, but I can see the reasoning behind it. And like I've said previously, I don't think nom was "coasting" on the menalque wagon because she was engaging with him.
I think that on its face the 'nom is lynchbait' take from aldu is p bad, but fleshed out a bit here i actually kinda like it

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:57 pm
by skitter30
In post 1147, Captain the Furret wrote:I think I want to rule out George and Noms
If we’re going by the map Chemist posted, Mena really never had a solid stance on noms and I feel like scum!mena has a more solidified stance on noms
I'm still kinda getting used to reading that sort of map and i'm not sure i understand the system well enough yet to draw conclusions from it

I do think that the nom/mena fight on like p7 was anti svs tho, it looked like nom was looking for reasons to have a scumread on mena tbere so she could push him and its a weird way to distance from a partner