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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:41 am
by Noraa
In post 1124, Ythan wrote:
In post 1122, Noraa wrote:and then self hammer to waste tomorrow for town as well.
???
If scum hammers me today without any explanation, town will most likely be limming them tomorrow and once they get to E-1 which will be quick since there won't be many people left, they will self hammer to waste the day I bet.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:42 am
by Noraa
Thats how I predict the day will go

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:42 am
by Ythan
ok

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:48 am
by duppin
In post 1117, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Huh.

I kind of want to claim now because I can't decide if my role makes duppin's claim to be more or less likely.
I am really curious about this now actually

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:36 am
by VP Baltar
In post 1122, Noraa wrote:Also putting me at E-1 gives scum opportunity to quickhammer
And yet...

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:35 am
by VP Baltar
In post 1084, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: skies
There’s more directly implicating him rn I’d say
I'd like you to show your work on this one. What are the points you see directly implicating each of them?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:14 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1105, brighteningskies wrote:I'm slightly more inclined to think Gamma personlly than Haschel because Gamma pushed more for sus on people compared with Haschel's play of just gathering info and questioning in a fairly
neutral way.
Haschel's "neutral play" has also involved multiple quickhammers and just some shiftiness in general

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:21 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1106, duppin wrote:I suppose i might as well just claim as i am not sure sitting on my claim really matters. I also don't really think it matters whether me or gamma claims first at this point because if he is scum then he should be able to conclude what my read on him is related to i think

i am a motion detector:

n1: ythan - motion detected
n2: gamma - no motion
n3: gamma - no motion

so initially thought gamma was more likely to be town for not doing anything n2 but after him not doing anything n3 either I feel pretty confident about him being town actually.
I don't want to go too wifom on this, but in my opinion i just think it seems logical for mafia to use gamma as the kill after reck flipped assuming one of skies and noora is the other mafia given they were obvious tpr targets.
the only plausibile possibility i can really see if haschel is scum and they used him to do the kill instead i guess, but yeah only possible teammate i can really see for Gamma is haschel but I honestly just think Gamma is town
so we have UT tracker, duppins MD, and ythan watcher(?), along with annie bus driver and VPB FN (idr if this was confirmed but it's almost certainly the case even if not)
tbh that makes sense with RB, that generally calls for a good amount of power, but Haschel also claims to have a PR
I think town having driver probably means scum have 1 additional PR at least, but I'm not always the best judge of such things

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:23 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1130, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1084, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: skies
There’s more directly implicating him rn I’d say
I'd like you to show your work on this one. What are the points you see directly implicating each of them?
skies was being directly questioned when Reck started going for a fast end. I think noraa's Reck push D2 was still bad but I also think the MO there is a bit questionable if they're both scum. What do they hope to gain with that?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:33 am
by Noraa
In post 1129, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1122, Noraa wrote:Also putting me at E-1 gives scum opportunity to quickhammer
And yet...
I don't think scum'll quickhammer anymore cuz that just sounds like suicide but at the same time after this whole convo, I doubt scum would be scared of quick hammering anymore since I just said scum wouldn't. Idk I'm overthinking but I feel like if scum quickhammers, my death will be a huge waste but anyways, I dont think I have enough time to read 40+ pages today. Tomorrow is what I'll try for.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:45 am
by Gamma Emerald
imo let's just massclaim since Haschel already hinted at having a PR
I'm lightpost face sunny, VT

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:58 am
by Haschel Cedricson
I'm Running-Through-the-Street Sunny, town voyeur.

On Night 1 I targeted Reck and learned that he (meaning me) was targeted by a Manipulative action (bus driver), two Miscellaneous Actions (Mask and Friendly Neighbor), and an Action Investigation (myself). On Night Two VP Baltar was hit by an Action Investigation (me). Last night UT was targeted by a Killing Action (scum) and an Action Investigation (me).

So besides the Watcher we have a whole bunch of roles that don't really do a ton but provide things for the Watcher/Motion Detector/Voyeur to notice.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:19 am
by Noraa
I am Panicking Sunny, VT

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:57 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 1083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1053, duppin wrote:alright so VP and ythan are confirmed town, i am pretty confident that Gamma is town.
For some reason I thought haschel would be mechanically cleared if reck flipped red but i realised that wasnt.

pretty sure its just noora and skies at this point though
Pretty sure it’s just between Noraa skies and Haschel anyway
Reck was seriously angling for a speedy end to the day
I'm confused why you said it was between noraa and haschel and then voted skies 3 mins later

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:00 pm
by Noraa
In post 1138, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1053, duppin wrote:alright so VP and ythan are confirmed town, i am pretty confident that Gamma is town.
For some reason I thought haschel would be mechanically cleared if reck flipped red but i realised that wasnt.

pretty sure its just noora and skies at this point though
Pretty sure it’s just between Noraa skies and Haschel anyway
Reck was seriously angling for a speedy end to the day
I'm confused why you said it was between noraa and haschel and then voted skies 3 mins later
read it again. slowly this time

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:04 pm
by VP Baltar
Oh duh. I am clearly too tired for mafia

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:03 pm
by brighteningskies
In post 1133, Gamma Emerald wrote: skies was being directly questioned when Reck started going for a fast end. I think noraa's Reck push D2 was still bad but I also think the MO there is a bit questionable if they're both scum. What do they hope to gain with that?
Eh I mean that's valid reasoning I get u.

I do think it would have been too obvious for reck to have been pushing for day end during my questioning if I were actually scum though and he was clearly going with the confused and "oh no I would vote for myself too" townie approach.

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Also Noraa I've told you why I think you're sus and it may be bleh to you but I've stood by the fact that I don't trust you and low quality does not equal scum

It is interesting you haven't been hammered yet..

Also you claimed a sunny role which doesn't give much actual info arguably it's just a flavour title if you want to claim you should consider including what the role actually does.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:08 pm
by Ythan
VT explicitly does nothing.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:14 pm
by brighteningskies
Oh damn it I'm also too tired for mafia the acronyms really confuse me that means vanilla townie right?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:14 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1141, brighteningskies wrote:Also you claimed a sunny role which doesn't give much actual info arguably it's just a flavour title if you want to claim you should consider including what the role actually does.
I mean, I did this too

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:16 pm
by Ythan
In post 1143, brighteningskies wrote:Oh damn it I'm also too tired for mafia the acronyms really confuse me that means vanilla townie right?
Joined: August 21, 2018
eyesemojiagain

But for clarity yes.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:20 pm
by brighteningskies
Wait so two suspected scum players just claimed vanilla townie..
Idk about y'all but that seems kinda sus.

I'm inclined to damn well claim although I've been really reluctant to I'm not sure if I can be of much use at this point in the game.
I'm Injury Sunny, town doctor.

N1: tn (the player I've spoken to the most out of game lol without much info starting the game I just protected him)
N2: Ythan (seemed pretty town at this point)
N3: VPB (I thought he would be the obvious kill attempt for scum but apparently not)

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:31 pm
by Gamma Emerald
hrm

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:37 pm
by Ythan
If you think you're going to get away withnot claiming after everyone else did you are in for a big surprise.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:38 pm
by Ythan
Oh I stopped reading your post when you said you were reluctant.