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is HUB leafraking
i cant do much super serious talk, me/taylor disagree on some stuff + im tired so uh.
-shelly

hub when did you care so much about getting us all onto the same page and doing Serious Scumhunting
that reads off as unnatural
-shelly

VOTE: HUB

That annoyance... does not come off as genuine.

What is leafraking

In post 1094, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:

@Boon are we allowed to know whether the Nico replacement is voluntary or involuntary?

I thought you were against angleshooty reasons?

In post 1128, Happy Birthday Boonskiies wrote:What is leafraking

busywork to look town
-shellyCult

you just spent like 2 pages talking about ICs, quasi-softing masons, and maybe implying you had a hood when each of those activities are very common scum gambits in games moderated by boon specifically

acting as though you are IC because you think your role is likely true because the mech flavor is similar is dumb. GX is decently town off play but despite your constant insistence you be townread I don't think there's an overwhelmingly strong case for Terror town off play so far. And filling the thread with noise is also a common tactic for scum in boon games.

So yeah I wouldn't say I'm annoyed so much as if you're town you're playing bad and making the game harder to read by doing all the things scum love to do in boon games

In post 1129, Happy Birthday Boonskiies wrote:

In post 1094, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:

@Boon are we allowed to know whether the Nico replacement is voluntary or involuntary?

I thought you were against angleshooty reasons?

exactly, if she was forcereplaced off prod then that should shut down all discussions of wim/angle-shooting

Am I L-3?

There's already one flipped variant, flipping another variant is the mechanically correct play to make the game readable and push the overall gamestate into normal status.

Also, it's unlikely for town to have all three variant roles.

There, how's that for IC status?

we are not a variant role
-shelly

For the last time:


also ive never played in a boon game. how am I supposed to know meta around there?
-shelly

Hmm

That would explain why your role is impossible unless it is just reflavored since that would put the number of variants over the cap I think

Why the fuck are you doing this thing with GX then? GX could just be scum informed there's a town commuter with the flavor of parallel universe. There is, to be clear:

ZERO

fucking reason to townread people off this mech bullshit you're pulling

I don't even scumread GX but you are making this needlessly weird given you were both under zero pressure and hardclaiming for no reason I can see other than making the game harder to read

In post 1138, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:Hmm

That would explain why your role is impossible unless it is just reflavored since that would put the number of variants over the cap I think

Why the fuck are you doing this thing with GX then? GX could just be scum informed there's a town commuter with the flavor of parallel universe. There is, to be clear:

ZERO

fucking reason to townread people off this mech bullshit you're pulling

its just reflavoured.

- early ascetic claim means scum informed of town commuter does not make sense

its not scum!commuter either since scum!comm would prob have a different flavour

also we hardclaimed because I slipped, I was planning to hardclaim D4
-shelly

I mean you can say it doesn't make you scum but why is scum ascetic with a scum informed that town has a commuter reflavored to parallel universe impossible or unlikely? Why do you think scum commuter would have a different flavor? Why do you think scum could not simply bluff their role and agree to whatever role was implied by their counterpart in the town? Like some of this is mildly complicated by "scum informed" basically makes all of it plausible and in any case there was no real need for either of you to hard claim and there's no *true mechanical reason* to see either of you as IC. If you are both commuters then you probably are like 40% of the town's power structure and you just wasted the most important thing you can do which is eat scum night kills so I really just *do not* get any of what you have done right now from a town-oriented strategic POV

WHY

that's all I'm feeling when I look at your posts right now. The value of half-assedly sorta maybe-kinda getting GX maybe more townread when he was under zero pressure to avoid any chance of eating a bullet? why?

In post 2, Boonskiies wrote:Town Only
Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Juvenile Delinquent, Mason, Miller, Named Townie, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful,

Mafia Only
Mafia Goon, Traitor, Named Scummie

Any Alignment
Babysitter, Bodyguard, Bunyip,

Commuter

, Cop, Detective, Doctor, Follower, Fruit Vendor, Gunsmith, Hider, Inventor, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Lover, Messenger, Motion Detector, Multitasking, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Psychologist, PT Cop, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Traffic Analyst, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Visitor, Voyeur, Watcher, Willbooster

Third Party
Serial Killer

Modifiers
Activate,Announcing, Ascetic, Backup, Bulletproof, Complex, Combined, Desperate, Enabler, Informed, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot, Ninja, Compulsive, Loyal, Disloyal, Loud, Recharged, Reflexive, Simple, Split, Strongman, Night Specific (Any form, Even/Odd/Novice included)

if anyone needs this and is still doubting us

HUB is scumreading us for "mechtalk" which was kind of necessary. imagine a world where I slipped, gypyx pointed it out, we ignored it, making town to very plausibly miss it
also scumreading us for "meta" which I don't know of
-shelly

I'm IC because my role is confirmed in the OP

In post 1143, Endless Terror wrote:HUB is scumreading us for "mechtalk" which was kind of necessary. imagine a world where I slipped, gypyx pointed it out, we ignored it, making town to very plausibly miss it
also scumreading us for "meta" which I don't know of

I didn't talk about meta, I talked about things that happen in boon games off boon design patterns

You're making it seem like scum would have different flavor than town for a commuter--why? how do you know this? why would you not instead assume the opposite?

You yourself admit you did not plan to claim today and had no strategic reason to have this conversation today

If anything wouldn't scum commuter + town commuter make more sense? You're reaching all these bizarre inferences and then acting like you should be read as masons because why?

In post 1142, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:I mean you can say it doesn't make you scum but why is scum ascetic with a scum informed that town has a commuter reflavored to parallel universe impossible or unlikely? Why do you think scum commuter would have a different flavor? Why do you think scum could not simply bluff their role and agree to whatever role was implied by their counterpart in the town? Like some of this is mildly complicated by "scum informed" basically makes all of it plausible and in any case there was no real need for either of you to hard claim and there's no *true mechanical reason* to see either of you as IC. If you are both commuters then you probably are like 40% of the town's power structure and you just wasted the most important thing you can do which is eat scum night kills so I really just *do not* get any of what you have done right now from a town-oriented strategic POV

WHY

that's all I'm feeling when I look at your posts right now. The value of half-assedly sorta maybe-kinda getting GX maybe more townread when he was under zero pressure to avoid any chance of eating a bullet? why?

-> I slipped in my post
-> gypyx pointed it out

ah scum informed ascetic commuter that is a neat role that I never thought of but what is the possibility of that? you're getting into "pushing implausible things territory"
We had like obvious attempts to eat the nightkill - mason softing/ascetic [REDACTED] implying ascetic cop
WHY DO YOU THINK I HARDCLAIMED HUH? i clearly said I was planning to hardclaim D4

ok bye im leaving this thread im tired + if you don't understand fundamentally why I claimed there's no use to having a conversation with you

In post 1145, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:
If anything wouldn't scum commuter + town commuter make more sense? You're reaching all these bizarre inferences and then acting like you should be read as masons because why?

With Vax flipping goon, I'm say scum is full of stacked PRs remaining.

What is the possibility of an informed role in the scum team in a game where there are multiple normal roles reflavored? I'd say maybe 75%

I don't think that GX "slipping" meant you need to hardclaim at all

You're acting like: a) informed is an uncommon role (it's not)
b) scum would have different flavor than town for the same role (they wouldn't)
c) scum couldn't just fakeclaim ascetic and then change to commuter (they could)
d) scum would have no counter-play around flavor in a game where many roles are reflavored

In any case I have currently a stronger claim to being IC since the setup confirms there is a VT and so far there is no flipped VT. Until you see another VT, you should treat me as IC :3