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In post 1107, Infinity 324 wrote:The way mom is approaching sorting this game doesn't feel genuine

In post 1115, Venus Fly Trap wrote:

In post 1102, SirCakez wrote:

@lilith

so this sticks out in your skimming

I see the @ but don’t understand what I’m supposed to be responding to. do you want to talk about anything?

- lilith

In post 1121, Venus Fly Trap wrote:my brain is exploding, sorry if I missed anything. @ me again etc etc

pedit: you’re literally just proving me right. how are people supposed to 1) read you as town if you’re town and not doing anything to help them get to the right read, and 2) not draw parallels between this and a recent scumgame?

- lilith

In post 754, The Bulge wrote:

In post 736, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 517, Kismet wrote:nacho i think the convo for later for us is vft because that is likely to be where we have the most difference of opinion so far. i need to reread skitter's posts from today before i commit to that read as it was like 7:30am when i did initially, but i was very much a fan and her content is not all just centered around you.

I look forward to this. I know that I owe a full explanation on my VFT read; currently feels like I'm the only person that doesn't think they are the towniest towns who ever towned which is causing me to dig my heels in a bit more than I'd like to but I'd like to get that read sorted out quick so I can determine whether I'm being dumb or not.

who is townbinning VFT?

In post 794, Nachomamma8 wrote: You (and to a lesser extent Bork) will likely mislynch me even though you should know me better by now, and you will be responsible taking my voice out of the game. I'm asking for you to follow my reads after my death until they steer us wrong, which yes is absolutely something I'd do for you.

In post 814, Venus Fly Trap wrote:

In post 744, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 545, Venus Fly Trap wrote:this whole post is like trying to handwave away criticism while you yourself are acknowledging a few posts up that this isn't the way you typically play as town so like

My anger at Cakez is something that is one off and unique - the focus on it is misguided because it is something that is one off and unique. Whenever people do something outside of their range as a player it's pretty hard to then determine their alignment from it unless you know them intimately as people and neither bork or notsci know me that well.

I don't think your read on me has evolved. You've added to it over time with commenting vague thoughts on how my tone sucks or you hate my interactions with Cakez but there's nothing that shows nuance and there's not a point where it feels like you care what color that I flip.

ok soooo you're basically telling me that you're so pissed off at sircakez for something that happened two months ago that you insta-scumread him and are aggressive abt it in a way that doesn't match anything he actually did here, in this game. and that that's a more likely explanation than you just deciding he was an easy place to push here and thus doing so - at a time in the game where iirc several other people were suspicious of him as well

and i will now note that in recent pages, as general feeling towards sircakez has shifted more towards a townread, you're also rethinking that for ??? reasons

In post 748, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 568, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm not confident in my ability to read cakez, but he feels pretty towny tbh

I'm starting to agree with this.

you're right, i don't know you from adam and maybe this is what you would do as town but:
a) people who i believe know you more than me (i.e. bork, notsci) also think this is weird
b) like i have a general vibe of what your towngame is supposed to be and true it's not firsthand but how you're interacting with sircakez here is not really fitting that paradigm. and like idk i'm usually kinda good at makign these sort of assessments, even if i don't have firsthand experience so to me this is worth taking into account.
(and hey if you want examples of this i actually can pull some recent ones! see: murdercat in panic room!)

~ skitter

Spoiler:

Don't hate me, I had to do this

In post 868, Kismet wrote: ^ group is all subject to re-eval tomorrow (including infinity, and those are pretty separate tiers hence the spacing, but i am squicked enough by the people pushing l&g that i have lost any interest in that wagon)

In post 871, Nachomamma8 wrote:holding vft to the same level as notsci and infinity is also silly - yes vft is town but those two left their scumranges a long long time ago and skitter hasn't done anything that absurdly town

In post 879, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm glad that we're all town together too.
I'm sad that y'all won't see it until you kill me.

In post 883, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 881, Kismet wrote:

In post 879, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm glad that we're all town together too.
I'm sad that y'all won't see it until you kill me.

don't know what to say man
as usual if i'm wrong you have the requisite mea culpa, and i'll own the bad read.

It's okay!
I'm still having fun, it's kind of fun getting mislynched over people like L&G. And Bulge. And Mom.

[Off topic (2): I also want to know the meaning of

iioa

]

I like

Nachomamma8

's case about

Leafeon and Glaceon

on 887. Not sure about 889 and 890 yet, they're in my null list.

In post 916, notscience wrote:We could just elim you guys if you want?

I'm thinking the same....

In post 917, Infinity 324 wrote:I would be pretty unhappy if anyone except nacho was limmed today

In post 917, Infinity 324 wrote:His cases aren't someone who believes players are scum, his mindset is "why me instead of these people who aren't doing anything"

In post 1130, notscience wrote:Bulge let me know when you read nacho. I’m fine killing him today and will reap the “I told you sos” later if I’m wrong.

Mena hydra goes tomorrow. I agree with lillith wrt the AtE and for someone so done with this game he sure is doing a lot of following along with this game.

In post 935, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 930, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 920, Kismet wrote:its why eliming hypothetical town!n_m day 1 is literally like the worst case scenario. scum just flips one of their own lurkers next and we're nowhere

And I addressed this in my last post but this is just not true at all.

Just no. This is frustrating as all hell - I don't believe that when ffery post my flip that one of your thoughts will be "WELP AT LEAST WE DIDN'T MISLYNCH NOT_MAFIA" and if it is then I have no nice words for you here.

Not sure about others, but you're really giving me hard time in this game bro.

In post 940, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 830, Infinity 324 wrote:@ydra Talk to mena about nacho for me

Nacho keeps posting stuff that pings me and I'm at the point where he's just always going to be my preferred elim for today so yeah

In post 844, Infinity 324 wrote:Oh if that's the case nacho is even more scummy here somehow

In post 857, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah I also feel paranoid that everyone seems to have the same reads but townblocs are rough for scum to deal with, if nacho flips town I'll re-evaluate

In post 917, Infinity 324 wrote:I would be pretty unhappy if anyone except nacho was limmed today

His cases aren't someone who believes players are scum, his mindset is "why me instead of these people who aren't doing anything"

yeah you don't just get to sit on your hands and push me for the rest of the day
who are my partners? who am I bussing? who do you townread and why?

Hmm.... I'll not be surprised to see

Infinity 324

is scum in the case you flipped town.

Nachomamma8

's 953 I'm keeping under consideration. By doing this, I just realize that my heart still wants to give a pass to him on Day 1. So, I'm unvoting again (sue me if you want but this game is hard! )

In post 958, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 952, Infinity 324 wrote:I could get into my "how do I know how confident to be" thing but basically, it's more common that I have a correct early scumread but drop the read than I have a wrong SR and don't re-evaluate.

Letting scum that you caught early and having a wrong sr and failing to re-evaluate are both different sides of the same coin - just means that you are prioritizing the wrong information.

In this circumstance I know that I'm not blameless - I played up my desire for the NM lynch early more than I should because I thought it would generate discussion and I should have realized that my approach to Cakez would ping notsci and bork.

But I have put in the work to talk about what I think and why I think it. I think that my game play doesn't make sense as a whole for scum, especially since the prevailing idea seems to be that I'm just bussing the hell out of my team because it makes sense for me to post basically 200 times in a day and not advance my scum agenda at all. I think that notsci and bork should both know me well enough to know that this is not how my approach to the game looks at all if I'm scum here.

I don't deserve what I'm getting here.

In post 970, Infinity 324 wrote:I think L&G are town so yeah

In post 1000, Disaster Cartel wrote:

In post 973, The Bulge wrote:

notscience

hasn't made a huge splash in the game so far, but I would probably be suspicious if he was putting himself front and centre trying to keep a hold on the reins of the game. most of what he's done so far is reach out to familiar players, and present theories and takes as non-sequiturs, all par for the course.

I'm not a big fan of his nacho case.

I think town notty would be more likely to want to assume a more assertive role in the town, but that could be affected by playerlist. I think with fewer players who know him, notty would feel more comfortable and free to break from his usual posting style. most of what he's done so far is give reads and push suspicions. I don't like the way he throws his vote around. I would expect town notty to be a little more meek in a way. he hasn't done much apart from replying to direct questions, and asking his own, but he only follows up in the moment and rarely comes back to past conversations. however, I do appreciate the consistency with which he maintains his lines of questioning ever after a lilt in discussion.

The wall on nacho is pretty convincing

. notty hasn't done anything this game except throw down votes and vibe with his friends. If he were scum I think he'd see an opportunity in this setup to take more control of the game's trajectory. I don't think we need to worry about this slot, but I have my eye on him.

okay i just want to clear up bulge: are you talking about two separate things (that i bolded) because you're saying you're not a big fan of the case and then you're like, actually it's convincing and that makes no sense to me

- ydra

In post 1060, Not_Mafia wrote:43 pages

Spoiler:

In post 1065, Leafeon and Glaceon wrote: i think nm actively avoiding creating content and catching zero heat for it makes him very likely scum

~leaf

In post 1078, Infinity 324 wrote: My reasons for SRing nacho don't really have to do with him SRing NM, he just feels fake to me.

In post 1083, Momrangal wrote:Cakes, infinity, VFP, NM, Bulge

In post 1089, The Bulge wrote:fuck this tbh

half of you know for a fact im town anyway. and I think for the rest of you you should be able to tell from gamestate that I'm town here. because, again, half the plist knows my alignment already and they FUCKING WISH they could actually push me on anything from that wall but I've managed to coast thus far because the scumteam knows my thoughts come from a town perspective. anyway this game has caused me nothing but immense stress and anxiety the last 72+ hours so peace for now

In post 1091, The Bulge wrote:anyone who has a problem with my levels of engagement moving forward can suck my toe!!!!!!!!

In post 1092, Disaster Cartel wrote:this game is annoying and I can't be fucked so ydra is running our slot until I feel like playing again

-Mena

In post 1100, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 979, Infinity 324 wrote:Why did you think 97 or 230 could be AI at all?

In post 986, Infinity 324 wrote:Bulge why didn't you ask a clarifying question about the skitt read? Or try to take into account the context (skitt's overall enjoyment of playing scum lately)?

In post 1103, SirCakez wrote:Salsa when you finish your catchup I am extremely interested in a sort of coalesced read from you on Nacho.

In post 1114, Venus Fly Trap wrote:

In post 1092, Disaster Cartel wrote:this game is annoying and I can't be fucked so ydra is running our slot until I feel like playing again

-Mena

what’s “annoying” about it

you feel like you did in panic room with this whole “it’s not MY fault everyone is scumreading me, read me better!!1!1!1!” and then flouncing off without giving us a way to read you better.

- lilith

In post 1118, Venus Fly Trap wrote:

In post 1110, Salsabil Faria wrote:I can see this is happening here, and it's actually making Disaster Cartel look good. I don't see Leafeon and Glaceon vs Disaster Cartel as SvS yet.

what does this mean? DC wasn’t in the conversation as far as I can tell?

- lilith

In post 1128, Disaster Cartel wrote:We quake in boots, ur talent so strong, u do such good job catching us!!!1!!1!1!!1!1!1

In post 1132, Disaster Cartel wrote:

In post 1130, notscience wrote:Bulge let me know when you read nacho. I’m fine killing him today and will reap the “I told you sos” later if I’m wrong.

Mena hydra goes tomorrow. I agree with lillith wrt the AtE and for someone so done with this game he sure is doing a lot of following along with this game.

wow notsci, so good at game, much scummy 4 me, wow, great

In post 1089, The Bulge wrote:fuck this tbh

half of you know for a fact im town anyway. and I think for the rest of you you should be able to tell from gamestate that I'm town here. because, again, half the plist knows my alignment already and they FUCKING WISH they could actually push me on anything from that wall but I've managed to coast thus far because the scumteam knows my thoughts come from a town perspective. anyway this game has caused me nothing but immense stress and anxiety the last 72+ hours so peace for now

In post 1102, SirCakez wrote:so in scum???? Lol this seems obvious.