Again, it doesn't matter to me. Salsa/Sean/Boxxy are all good lims and I'll go for any.
I have a slight preference for Sean here again because I know for a fact that Cyrus likes to distance a lot with his partners and it might be more of a psychological thing where he would actually be way too anxious as scum to make posts like he made his game towards actual townies.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:05 am
by nomnomnom
The preference is if we were to believe that all the claims so far have been genuine, that is. So yeah.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:12 am
by nomnomnom
Furthermore, if any of you want to believe that boxxy is town, then that means that anyone that was on boxxy yesterday could be scum. And yes that includes me and HEM. But Sean and Salsa have more dodgy reads towards boxxy and it feels like real opportunism.
Just keep that in mind, and that Cyrus likes distancing early with scumpartners because he is scared of doing those sorts of interactions with townies, and you have a good picture of who is the remaining scum VOTE: Sean
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:13 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Doing a re-read now.
VOTE: Seanzie Weird to conclude that Cyrus is wolf and everyone else who has posted is town at post #26.
Yeah that can be true.... which makes me wonder, why the other 2 scums didn't do anything about it.
In post 1083, nomnomnom wrote:See the thing about salsabil is that her defending Sean here, despite the reason being bad,
Which reason of mine you think is bad?
In post 1082, humaneatingmonkey wrote:If I can establish a TvS relationship with Salsabil and boxxy, I might go with Salsabil. Otherwise, I'm very happy with a boxxy elimination.
Did you mean you choose to eliminate me over
boxxy
here? If so then show me your thought process behind it please.
OK, this is a 100% TOWN claim. Detective determine3s if a player HAS killed (if the target is Mafia who has NOT killed they get a negative result). This reminds me of a game I played recently where I suggested the
Detective
Psychiatrist targets the same players twice, so if they get "Can Kill" on N1 and "Can't Kill" on N2 that's a GUILTY (Psychiatrist is the opposite of Detective), so I think Roaming was added here to prevent that sort of guilty (although it would still be more suitable used with a Psychiatrist). Ohm and that game had a BABYSITTER in it, which is why I suggested the check would be on the same person, because the babysitter would not appear to have killed until/unless they were dead themselves)
for the record, A50 imminently believed in boxxy claim
Not Voting (4): MaxTheFox, boxxy, Dwlee99, T3, Salsabil Faria
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:24 am
by Kerset
6 to elim so E-1
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:25 am
by Dwlee99
I am tempted to lolhammer only cause yesterday I hit scum with it but I'm not comfortable voting there until I can read Seanzie's scum games (which requires getting admin approval to sign up on the forum apparently??)
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:26 am
by humaneatingmonkey
UNVOTE:
I'm trying to re-read.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:27 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Consider this pseudoE-1
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:28 am
by Kerset
In post 1133, Dwlee99 wrote:I am tempted to lolhammer only cause yesterday I hit scum with it but I'm not comfortable voting there until I can read Seanzie's scum games (which requires getting admin approval to sign up on the forum apparently??)
In post 1100, Dwlee99 wrote:I would never do something this ballsy, so I have trouble wrapping my head around the idea of other people doing it.
The most important thing in a game of mafia is to establish what kind of scum players people would be if these people rolled scum.
Sean and Salsabil? I would totally see them doing this kind of stuff. They're the types of scum players who like refuge in audacity and stuff like that. I know this. They just scream they're that type of player to me
If over confidence has a face!
Spoiler:
This time it's about you
In post 1104, Dwlee99 wrote:What is being suggested though is that at the beginning of the game, scum!Sean immediately pushed Cyrus, and then Salsa and Cyrus counter bussed him, and the day culminated in Cyrus getting hard bussed by both Sean and Salsa. Calling each of the scum buddies scum to start the game just seems like way more attention than scum should want.
Which I'll never do as scum.
In post 1110, Bambi Jay wrote:Well I guess I'll make it clear I townread Box and won't vote him (unlike SOME people) today at all. If we actually listen to Nom and Monkey and co, and elim one of our PRs and scum shoot Almost so we lose both our investigatives, I'm gunning for the man eating Monkey.
I don't believe you need to read his scumgames to establish he is very likely scum here.
There are multiple things that corroborates this:
Cyrus likes to distance with scumpartners. One of cyrus' very early game interaction was Sean.
If boxxy is town, then his interaction regarding boxxy, which was to basically using him to discredit both me and HEM (especially me) and yet say "I still don't trust you!" is incredibly scummy oriented, as it creates a paranoia situation towards the 3 slots.
Sean has a legitimate reason to NK kyouko here. Not only because it would leave town!boxxy alive (which me and HEM were adamant on pushing) but also because Kyouko established a significant threat to scum!sean
That's a lot of things pointing towards scum!sean here.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:36 am
by nomnomnom
Mind you, a lot of these points also apply to Salsabil.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:37 am
by Bambi Jay
Salsa can finally be ready to interact in real-time. Woohoo.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:39 am
by Kerset
In post 1140, Bambi Jay wrote:Salsa can finally be ready to interact in real-time. Woohoo.
maybe even after 666 questions he will give us a read on something
In post 1133, Dwlee99 wrote:I am tempted to lolhammer only cause yesterday I hit scum with it but I'm not comfortable voting there until I can read Seanzie's scum games (which requires getting admin approval to sign up on the forum apparently??)
and you also care about claim... i hope
Cyrus didn't get to claim but that case was a little different so yeah that's important.
In post 1138, nomnomnom wrote:I don't believe you need to read his scumgames to establish he is very likely scum here.
There are multiple things that corroborates this:
Cyrus likes to distance with scumpartners. One of cyrus' very early game interaction was Sean.
If boxxy is town, then his interaction regarding boxxy, which was to basically using him to discredit both me and HEM (especially me) and yet say "I still don't trust you!" is incredibly scummy oriented, as it creates a paranoia situation towards the 3 slots.
Sean has a legitimate reason to NK kyouko here. Not only because it would leave town!boxxy alive (which me and HEM were adamant on pushing) but also because Kyouko established a significant threat to scum!sean
That's a lot of things pointing towards scum!sean here.
In post 1139, nomnomnom wrote:Mind you, a lot of these points also apply to Salsabil.
Salsabil I have a townread on because she seems like she genuinely is hunting / caught scum!Cyrus and I'm not voting there today l.
I mean I see your points on Sean but seeing how he acts as scum normally is super important to know if he would make a ballsy play like immediately try to kill his scum buddy, even if I normally hate meta.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:41 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 71, Seanzie wrote:I enjoy playing both town and scum. I like gambiting a lot as either alignment. I also tend to go very hard to see how people react, but will stop and take a step back to re-evaluate often so that I don't get too confbias-y with my pushes or clears.
Sean, what happened to this player? I haven't seen him in this game.
In post 1110, Bambi Jay wrote:Well I guess I'll make it clear I townread Box and won't vote him (unlike SOME people) today at all. If we actually listen to Nom and Monkey and co, and elim one of our PRs and scum shoot Almost so we lose both our investigatives, I'm gunning for the man eating Monkey.
I want to vote
boxxy
but this post makes me to think again, so I'll not touch him atm or any of my townreads and townlean.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:43 am
by T3
Intent to hammer.
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:43 am
by nomnomnom
In post 1146, Salsabil Faria wrote:I want to vote boxxy but this post makes me to think again, so I'll not touch him atm or any of my townreads and townlean.
