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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:18 am
by MUSHSHAGANA
My head is full of television static right now. I like calling it town play because it means I don't have to worry about it right this second.
PEDIT: Oh, wow. I should have figured that out. Wow. I'm just gonna... I'll be back later.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:18 am
by Critter
In post 1123, MUSHSHAGANA wrote: In post 1118, Critter wrote:I actually haven’t yet. I am manipulative as scum and I am not but I don’t know you? *confused eyeball stare*
I think you're manipulative as either alignment, Critter. I think you try and keep it on the downlow, but you're still manipulative. That makes you dangerous as scum. And no, we don't know each other, this is just a judgment call based on what I see of your play here. I don't use meta for players I haven't played with, and I don't even like using it then. It's a crutch where my normal ability to play fails, not a primary tool.
Also, I'm glad my worse-than-usual memory kept my vote on you if you didn't get the promised effect from ssbm, since I distrust you even more now. (Also I don't know what the hell an invest is and MS wiki isn't helpful with it.)
Invest is short for investigation role like tracker,watcher it’s a category not a specific role. She was role fishing.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:21 am
by Something_Smart
Wait, which head of VFT made the posts on page 41?
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:22 am
by Something_Smart
Very rarely. If you're town, don't do it.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:24 am
by Critter
In post 1098, Venus Fly Trap wrote:skitter says she believes critter is being genuine here and I'm probably just going to trust her on this one.
- lilith
Unfortunately all the insects in my insect farm are gentleman. Please be advised.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:25 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1093, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:This is me getting frustrated that I'm being scumread for discussing mountain dew in a mountain dew themed game.
Bear in mind that Critter was explicitly presenting it as a gut reaction, and most people's guts are utter garbage. In your position I would not be fazed by that, except maybe to be annoyed at Critter if he acts on an unsubstantiated gut read.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:26 am
by Something_Smart
That seems like it's got way too many variables involved to be at all reliable.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:28 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1110, Wisdom wrote:every scum flails when they feel they are attacked for the wrong reasons
Transparently false, some people don't flail as scum at all.
And plenty of people flail as both alignments. I don't see why "frustration at being attacked for bullshit reasons" is an emotion reserved for scum.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
I understand effort isn't always stable but it feels like a real departure from the norm rn
I also just don't like what she chooses to focus on
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:32 am
by Critter
In post 1129, Critter wrote: In post 1098, Venus Fly Trap wrote:skitter says she believes critter is being genuine here and I'm probably just going to trust her on this one.
- lilith
Unfortunately all the insects in my insect farm are gentleman. Please be advised.
Oh you mean Skitter my bad lol. Sorry.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:33 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1133, Gamma Emerald wrote:I understand effort isn't always stable but it feels like a real departure from the norm rn
Have her scumgames also been like this?
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:34 am
by Gamma Emerald
I'm pretty sure they have
I replaced into both of the ones I've been in that are recent though
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:38 am
by StrangeMatter
So, then what's the normal for them?
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:43 am
by Wisdom
lol best you can do is have me as top scumread because you dont understand my reads?
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:45 am
by Wisdom
In post 1132, Something_Smart wrote: In post 1110, Wisdom wrote:every scum flails when they feel they are attacked for the wrong reasons
Transparently false, some people don't flail as scum at all.
And plenty of people flail as both alignments. I don't see why "frustration at being attacked for bullshit reasons" is an emotion reserved for scum.
Yep keep defending your buddy im sure that will go well for you
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:46 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1138, Wisdom wrote:lol best you can do is have me as top scumread because you dont understand my reads?
Yep.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:49 am
by Wisdom
good get limd right after kyouko
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:50 am
by Gamma Emerald
I think there probably should have been a blank tier added to the bottom because I don't think S_S meant to claim that was a confident SR
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:53 am
by Something_Smart
Of course not, but it seems like Wisdom is acknowledging that with "the best I can do".
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:55 am
by StrangeMatter
In post 1139, Wisdom wrote: In post 1132, Something_Smart wrote: In post 1110, Wisdom wrote:every scum flails when they feel they are attacked for the wrong reasons
Transparently false, some people don't flail as scum at all.
And plenty of people flail as both alignments. I don't see why "frustration at being attacked for bullshit reasons" is an emotion reserved for scum.
Yep keep defending your buddy im sure that will go well for you
They do bring up a fair point that people do flail as either alignment though, and definitely has happened in the past. This really doesn't help when it just doesn't feel like you answered the actual question and instead went for the scum associative.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:00 am
by StrangeMatter
And by question, I mean the one S_S did not say as a question but feels like an actual question to be brought up.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:00 am
by Something_Smart
I would like someone familiar with Wisdom scum meta to weigh in on if he openly antagonizes and hard pushes multiple townies as part of his strategy. If ssbm is scum then I'm sure he would be secure in pushing me, any scum can pull off hard bus -> hard push a townie who was defending them. But I'm not sure if he would want to sacrifice enough towncred to push two townies simultaneously/back-to-back (if he does push me tomorrow if ssbm is town, that is).
When I was scum with him, he did push pretty confidently, though he was mostly bussing. But he also didn't play very much and got executed D1.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:01 am
by Gamma Emerald
okay
well idk why wisdom expects hard suspicions from you d1
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:02 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1146, Something_Smart wrote:I would like someone familiar with Wisdom scum meta to weigh in on if he openly antagonizes and hard pushes multiple townies as part of his strategy. If ssbm is scum then I'm sure he would be secure in pushing me, any scum can pull off hard bus -> hard push a townie who was defending them. But I'm not sure if he would want to sacrifice enough towncred to push two townies simultaneously/back-to-back (if he does push me tomorrow if ssbm is town, that is).
When I was scum with him, he did push pretty confidently, though he was mostly bussing. But he also didn't play very much and got executed D1.
that is in his scum meta, but he's also just easier to read with some flips imo, so I agree he's "never lim d1" material
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:03 am
by Something_Smart
He hasn't played much with me recently. In our most recent game, I replaced into a town slot on N2 with confident reads (that actually turned out to be perfect).
