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that is not a read I would apply to any other player but for mastina I just find she thinks in ways that are completely orthogonal to what I think

I also thin from memoryk as scum she's more prone to just perpetually stay in catch up mode and fade into the background

I mean, I agree with you. but does that tend to be different in her scum game?

idfk

i'm not going to claim to have a good track record of reading her

VOTE: Kitty
Norwee abandon ship

In post 337, Marashu wrote:I've got my paranoid hat on for Titus but want her to be town.

this feels like something scum says because they think it sounds towny

In post 1087, Dannflor wrote:

In post 1082, Frozen Angel wrote:I am not interested at all in sorting you "for you know why" in day 1 and will purposefully deny doing that as its a waste of time and energy in this phase.

wait what?

I'm not gonna focus on your slot today - town reading or scum reading your slot makes no difference for me in this day phase so I want to wait for the game to progress more.

well there's the townier bell i was looking for. its like a fully different person just showed up and started posting, idk where you were earlier

UNVOTE:

In post 1118, catboi wrote:And if my goal was to create an interaction with Marashu, why do I then move on without a response from Marashu? The theory doesn't even hold up to its own internal logic. I really don't believe this is something you actually believe is true. As it stands, what happened was kittytacky made some posts I thought were bad, so I moved my vote to him instead of Marashu. It's not very complicated. I vote hop a fair bit on Day 1 and the idea that I'm obligated to keep my vote on Marashu until he responds to me is nonsense.

i mean this was more or less my thought process for why your moving your vote off marashu didn't make sense if you were s/s with him (you likely wouldn't have an awkward pivot onto a partner if you didn't actually want to commit and get anything out of voting there) and you told me that was bad process but ok

In post 1122, catboi wrote:no it's fine this is probably a big waste of energy like I thought it would be

what did you mean by this

do you still scumread dann

In post 1132, fireisredsir wrote:well there's the townier bell i was looking for.

What about Bell is townie?

the catboi/dann thing is interesting ig. it feels like they're both kinda puffing their chests up a lil bit, maybe just bc it's all very... cordial? it feels like there's a slight lack of. something. behind the posts, intensity or conviction maybe. some of it feels a bit like writing for the sake of writing rather than like, a true reflection of a passionate scumread of the heart

that could just come from being 2 good players early on in the game who are aware that even if they find the other to be suspicious so far, it's hard to be confident in a read, so idk

i kinda still am more nervous about catboi of the two but it could be a playstyle thing that im not used to

In post 1093, catboi wrote:

In post 1090, Bell wrote:I tend to think their catboi is a different playstyle and I dunno if they do it purposely or I just don't understand it but I think it slightly controls for the approach.

This is basically correct fwiw, I attempt to play differently on different alts. Nice of you to notice.

like i think this is probably part of it bc i mostly townread him when he's more in vibey casual less-wall-y mode and that's probably just more what im used to

In post 1135, fireisredsir wrote:the catboi/dann thing is interesting ig. it feels like they're both kinda puffing their chests up a lil bit, maybe just bc it's all very... cordial? it feels like there's a slight lack of. something. behind the posts, intensity or conviction maybe. some of it feels a bit like writing for the sake of writing rather than like, a true reflection of a passionate scumread of the heart

Could be theater

i thought of that but then i figured like... i would kinda expect them to be more performative on the aggression if it's theatre? like if they're doing it then might as well go all out

instead it sort of feels like neither really wants to fully step on the other's toes

which is rather polite of them and that sort of thing should probably be encouraged, so

In post 1138, fireisredsir wrote:i would kinda expect them to be more performative on the aggression if it's theatre? like if they're doing it then might as well go all out

What makes you think they have to be more performative about it?

I've seen Dann do theater before I don't remember it being at all performative but rather, and quite literally, a waste of everyone's time and did not really change any reads.

i like fire view on catboi/dann at first glance

i was going to dig in then Stuff Happened and my mental energy vanished so im kinda just posting to post rn

we'll see what tomorrow looks like

In post 1134, Alisae wrote:

In post 1132, fireisredsir wrote:well there's the townier bell i was looking for.

What about Bell is townie?

i would say almost nothing up through 969

and then basically everything from 1090 on (with that post probably being the most)

it just feels like suddenly his thoughts are flowing freely rather than being stiffly and carefully constructed. imo p much everything prior to that post looked way more like scum bell, and this looks way more like town bell, but even outside of meta I think it's just towny. i can see what he's thinking, the thoughts make sense, he's consistently posting and addressing new topics and angles

at this point i would now agree with what catboi said earlier that if he's scum here he has def upped his game

In post 1139, Alisae wrote:

In post 1138, fireisredsir wrote:i would kinda expect them to be more performative on the aggression if it's theatre? like if they're doing it then might as well go all out

What makes you think they have to be more performative about it?

In post 1140, Alisae wrote:I've seen Dann do theater before I don't remember it being at all performative but rather, and quite literally, a waste of everyone's time and did not really change any reads.

maybe ig, it just kinda feels like if it was theatre then it was clearly orchestrated and way planned in advance, since catboi had his "secret spicy scumread" for a while to build up to it, and it just kinda feels to me like they'd go at it a little more?

i don't really know what dann scum looks like tbh though

are you saying you think this looks like how dann does theatre? what's your read on the two of them

In post 1090, Bell wrote:It has occurred to me that Alisae hasn't played in a full year and their approach this game doesn't really reflect that at all, which is pretty confusing to me. They're confident they can read Norwe better than anyone else, but Norwe has been playing an additional year of mafia while they haven't. It doesn't make sense to me, but I actually don't think it's scummy. Just weird.

What is the ideal of me that you have in ur head?
I don't really have anything else to go off of other than what I know.
I feel like what I see is clearly in line with what I know of town!Norwee. I remember Norwee as scum being pretty aggro but I don't know how that developed but I also know that however that did develop, that's probably not what I am dealing with here? Seems more likely he's just town that's the simpler conclusion to come to right now and I imagine Norwee will only get easier to read as time goes on so I am happy to leave it at that.

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In post 1143, fireisredsir wrote:maybe ig, it just kinda feels like if it was theatre then it was clearly orchestrated and way planned in advance, since catboi had his "secret spicy scumread" for a while to build up to it, and it just kinda feels to me like they'd go at it a little more?

i don't really know what dann scum looks like tbh though

are you saying you think this looks like how dann does theatre? what's your read on the two of them

Why would they go at it more and waste their own posts when no one cares?
I'm not necessarily saying it is theater, I didn't read because it looked fucking obnoxious, and you know what, maybe that's obnoxiousness is intentional, maybe it's not, it's not easy to tell with that posting and asking me to find out I would rather bang my head against a wall while drooling
I remember liking Catboi and Dann seems fine but they're also good scum players so it's not like something like this can't be theater

ok yea i mean i don't think its impossible to be theatre either

i don't really feel like that's the most likely option tho

I think its safe to say they're aligned with each other

i think [scrrdbear, dann, FA, val] are town
less strongly i think [mastina, bell, misty, maybe titus?] are town
and then lightly i lean town on [penguin, charloux, alisae, maybe catboi?]

i think im getting close to the point of d1 where i get tired of talking and i just want to yeet someone

VOTE: marashu

could vote kitty ig if people strongly would rather do that but i prefer this

In post 1146, Alisae wrote:I think its safe to say they're aligned with each other

idk if this is a serious take or not lol

if it is then what makes you say this given you said you didn't read it

what I meant by I didn't read it is I didn't read all teh wall posting in depth, what I did read is that it seemed like they were both pushing each other for being at arm's length, which makes me think they're aligned with each other