Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:08 pm
FULL CDR EVE NEW META, MUST MASH THE BUTTONS
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:16 pm
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:19 pm
↑ bv310 wrote:Stealth Rework coming to PBE: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... st26754549
Super fucking psyched for new Eve
Long-term stealth encourages hugging your tower all day long, with stealth detection such as Oracles or Vision Wards being the only viable counter-play option, which is a binary and boring mechanic. Not fun.
Yep, because Dota/Dota 2 haven't had that issue and dealt with it acceptably several years ago. God forbid you put some onus on the player base to actually learn the game: nah, just gimp the stealth and turn them into generic AoE tanky AP and generic AD ranged DPS with a stealth gimmick! Then again, these are the same developers who removed denying, gold loss on death, and the importance of long-term/wide AoE CC with high mana costs/CDs because they were "anti-fun" (read: took more than 50 APM and encouraged smart play), have spent the last year steadily nerfing any support that makes a passive farm lane viable, and have introduced a slew of new champions who in many cases dramatically outclass the old ones in the name of profits before nerfing the shit out of them (release Xin Zhao, release Volibear), leaving them as they are and releasing a shit-ton of skins for them (Vayne), or both (Sona). Thanks, glorious Chinese overlords!
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:24 pm
Then go play dota. I doubt many people will miss your presence in this thread.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:37 pm
↑ DeathRowKitty wrote:Then go play dota. I doubt many people will miss your presence in this thread.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:49 pm
↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:↑ bv310 wrote:Stealth Rework coming to PBE: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... st26754549
Super fucking psyched for new Eve
Long-term stealth encourages hugging your tower all day long, with stealth detection such as Oracles or Vision Wards being the only viable counter-play option, which is a binary and boring mechanic. Not fun.
Yep, because Dota/Dota 2 haven't had that issue and dealt with it acceptably several years ago. God forbid you put some onus on the player base to actually learn the game: nah, just gimp the stealth and turn them into generic AoE tanky AP and generic AD ranged DPS with a stealth gimmick! Then again, these are the same developers who removed denying, gold loss on death, and the importance of long-term/wide AoE CC with high mana costs/CDs because they were "anti-fun" (read: took more than 50 APM and encouraged smart play), have spent the last year steadily nerfing any support that makes a passive farm lane viable, and have introduced a slew of new champions who in many cases dramatically outclass the old ones in the name of profits before nerfing the shit out of them (release Xin Zhao, release Volibear), leaving them as they are and releasing a shit-ton of skins for them (Vayne), or both (Sona). Thanks, glorious Chinese overlords!
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:58 pm
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:↑ bv310 wrote:Stealth Rework coming to PBE: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... st26754549
Super fucking psyched for new Eve
Long-term stealth encourages hugging your tower all day long, with stealth detection such as Oracles or Vision Wards being the only viable counter-play option, which is a binary and boring mechanic. Not fun.
Yep, because Dota/Dota 2 haven't had that issue and dealt with it acceptably several years ago. God forbid you put some onus on the player base to actually learn the game: nah, just gimp the stealth and turn them into generic AoE tanky AP and generic AD ranged DPS with a stealth gimmick! Then again, these are the same developers who removed denying, gold loss on death, and the importance of long-term/wide AoE CC with high mana costs/CDs because they were "anti-fun" (read: took more than 50 APM and encouraged smart play), have spent the last year steadily nerfing any support that makes a passive farm lane viable, and have introduced a slew of new champions who in many cases dramatically outclass the old ones in the name of profits before nerfing the shit out of them (release Xin Zhao, release Volibear), leaving them as they are and releasing a shit-ton of skins for them (Vayne), or both (Sona). Thanks, glorious Chinese overlords!
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
But no sort of permastealth has ever been done in dota before, Buttons.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:18 pm
The determination of people in this thread to either wilfully misinterpret what I say or just stick fingers in ears and pretend they can't hear it is amusing.Riki doesn't become visible when you walk next to people, and is balanced for it. Perma-stealth is actually balanced in Dota 2, and Riot's attempt at doing it differently (i.e. without dust/Gem of True Sight and by gimping stealth duration or making it stealth as long as you're not actually close enough to do anything) is laughable.
I spent years playing the original before taking part in the LoL and HoN betas; and please feel free to tell me how any of what I said is untrue, fuckwit.
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
I spent years playing the original before taking part in the LoL and HoN betas; and please feel free to tell me how any of what I said is untrue, fuckwit.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:20 pm
↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:Riki doesn't become visible when you walk next to people, and is balanced for it. Perma-stealth is actually balanced in Dota 2, and Riot's attempt at doing it differently is laughable.
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
I spent years playing the original before taking part in the LoL and HoN betas; and please feel free to tell me how any of what I said is untrue, fuckwit.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:32 pm
HELLO!
To hopefully in the future expand ONM! I am moving over to twitch.
http://www.twitch.tv/xxxpickemgenius
pickemgenius account was fucking wonky and wouldnt let me stream at all. This is fine though.
To hopefully in the future expand ONM! I am moving over to twitch.
http://www.twitch.tv/xxxpickemgenius
pickemgenius account was fucking wonky and wouldnt let me stream at all. This is fine though.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:37 pm
↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:The determination of people in this thread to either wilfully misinterpret what I say or just stick fingers in ears and pretend they can't hear it is amusing.Riki doesn't become visible when you walk next to people, and is balanced for it. Perma-stealth is actually balanced in Dota 2, and Riot's attempt at doing it differently (i.e. without dust/Gem of True Sight and by gimping stealth duration or making it stealth as long as you're not actually close enough to do anything) is laughable.
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
I spent years playing the original before taking part in the LoL and HoN betas; and please feel free to tell me how any of what I said is untrue, fuckwit.
ITT KoC makes assumptions without seeing the numbers of the changes or how it actually works?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:45 pm
Looking forward to the stealth rework. Stealth gameplay has always been one of my favorites.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:49 pm
↑ PJ. wrote:↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:The determination of people in this thread to either wilfully misinterpret what I say or just stick fingers in ears and pretend they can't hear it is amusing.Riki doesn't become visible when you walk next to people, and is balanced for it. Perma-stealth is actually balanced in Dota 2, and Riot's attempt at doing it differently (i.e. without dust/Gem of True Sight and by gimping stealth duration or making it stealth as long as you're not actually close enough to do anything) is laughable.
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
I spent years playing the original before taking part in the LoL and HoN betas; and please feel free to tell me how any of what I said is untrue, fuckwit.
ITT KoCmakes assumptions without seeing the numbers of the changes or how it actually works?draws logical conclusions from the stated aims of the Riot staff in that thread
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:57 pm
The Dota 2 and LoL threads were separated for a reason. Come on now.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:00 pm
I wasn't aware that splitting the threads completely precluded any comparison of the games or criticism of Riot's shoddy balancing, but thank you for clearing that up, backseat mod
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:01 pm
↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:The determination of people in this thread to either wilfully misinterpret what I say or just stick fingers in ears and pretend they can't hear it is amusing.Riki doesn't become visible when you walk next to people, and is balanced for it. Perma-stealth is actually balanced in Dota 2, and Riot's attempt at doing it differently (i.e. without dust/Gem of True Sight and by gimping stealth duration or making it stealth as long as you're not actually close enough to do anything) is laughable.
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
I spent years playing the original before taking part in the LoL and HoN betas; and please feel free to tell me how any of what I said is untrue, fuckwit.
My point is actually more that it's a mix between Riki and dust
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:03 pm
sure is drama in here
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:41 pm
you all need to calm your tits.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:47 pm
↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:↑ PJ. wrote:↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:The determination of people in this thread to either wilfully misinterpret what I say or just stick fingers in ears and pretend they can't hear it is amusing.Riki doesn't become visible when you walk next to people, and is balanced for it. Perma-stealth is actually balanced in Dota 2, and Riot's attempt at doing it differently (i.e. without dust/Gem of True Sight and by gimping stealth duration or making it stealth as long as you're not actually close enough to do anything) is laughable.
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
I spent years playing the original before taking part in the LoL and HoN betas; and please feel free to tell me how any of what I said is untrue, fuckwit.
ITT KoCmakes assumptions without seeing the numbers of the changes or how it actually works?draws logical conclusions from the stated aims of the Riot staff in that thread
Yes because this would be the first time that a league player didn't get exactly what their "logical conclusion" came up with come patch time.
xRECKONERx wrote:sure is drama in here
Nah just Knight of Cyndonia, per usual.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:19 pm
↑ PJ. wrote:↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:↑ PJ. wrote:↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:The determination of people in this thread to either wilfully misinterpret what I say or just stick fingers in ears and pretend they can't hear it is amusing.Riki doesn't become visible when you walk next to people, and is balanced for it. Perma-stealth is actually balanced in Dota 2, and Riot's attempt at doing it differently (i.e. without dust/Gem of True Sight and by gimping stealth duration or making it stealth as long as you're not actually close enough to do anything) is laughable.
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:
Have you actually played Dota? They are giving her an ability straight from Dota.
ps your attempts to make dota sound like a hardcore game are hilarious.
I spent years playing the original before taking part in the LoL and HoN betas; and please feel free to tell me how any of what I said is untrue, fuckwit.
ITT KoCmakes assumptions without seeing the numbers of the changes or how it actually works?draws logical conclusions from the stated aims of the Riot staff in that thread
Yes because this would be the first time that a league player didn't get exactly what their "logical conclusion" came up with come patch time.
xRECKONERx wrote:sure is drama in here
Nah just Knight of Cyndonia, per usual.
a) Everything I've stated in this thread is based on red posts in that Stealth Rework thread (Eve's stealth now basically being a permanent Smoke of Deceit from Dota 2, she now has wider AoE on Hate Spike and an AoE AP ultimate that adds a "durability steroid"; Twitch is now basically a standard AD with a much shorter stealth with no reason to build anything but the usual AD shit)
b) I sure as fuck didn't start the drama here, as you would see if you actually read the thread
c) Shut the fuck up and stop doing your best to come into every discussion involving me with the sole intent of shitting on me. I know you probably don't have anything better to do with your 2 braincells, but try?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:21 pm
Clam dwon
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:36 pm
nobody reply to knight of cydonia ever again
starting now
starting now
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:38 pm
everyone at my elo: "we dont need to ban shaco its k i can take care of him"
every time shaco is picked: "OMG WTF WHO FED SHACO WHY DIDN'T WE BAN HIM"
every time shaco is picked: "OMG WTF WHO FED SHACO WHY DIDN'T WE BAN HIM"
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:59 pm
↑ pickemgenius wrote:you all need to calm your tits.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:00 pm
Xin rework coming with stealth rework patch.
This patch gets better and better.
Oh, and Zyra sneak peek just came out too.
This patch gets better and better.
Oh, and Zyra sneak peek just came out too.