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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:43 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 11469, Rad wrote:
In post 11468, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Rad, why is best bird's claim too ririculous to be scum?
I'm having a hard time knowing what to believe with regards to claims.

Do you think it's not too ridiculous? Does scum!BB make that claim when he did? For what reason?
I don't see why it even has to be a fake claim? Although i guess it's not super useful for scum to talk to dead people unless their buddy is super good at coaching or something

But you also don't really have a way to verify he's has a PT and isn't a scum checking the dead person's role thing

Kind of blanking right now

Im inclined to believe it but i don't think it's too ririculous - that's an interesting characterization

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:45 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I've seen a scum role that can talk to dead players actually.

and Best Bird isn't even that townie tbh

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:47 pm
by Off The Hook
In post 11436, Taly wrote:i have experience with
gamma
and
marci
and im weary of that slot

so how are you meta-reading
OTH
as town,
nancy
?
This felt weird to me and I think I can place my finger on why: I think my scumplay in the last 2 games Taly saw it, while good enough to fool her in the moment, should be retrospectively evident as me basically employing some of the same mindset in both games. In both of them I basically was playing with house money early on, taking wild swings with my play that technically didn’t pay out in one and maybe paid out in the other. So idk I feel like Taly should be able to draw a solid conclusion of her own on me here.

~GE

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:47 pm
by Rad
In post 11475, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 11469, Rad wrote:
In post 11468, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Rad, why is best bird's claim too ririculous to be scum?
I'm having a hard time knowing what to believe with regards to claims.

Do you think it's not too ridiculous? Does scum!BB make that claim when he did? For what reason?
I don't see why it even has to be a fake claim? Although i guess it's not super useful for scum to talk to dead people unless their buddy is super good at coaching or something

But you also don't really have a way to verify he's has a PT and isn't a scum checking the dead person's role thing

Kind of blanking right now

Im inclined to believe it but i don't think it's too ririculous - that's an interesting characterization
I can't fathom why scum!BB would be given the PR to talk to dead people.

I guess scum!BB could find out a dead person's role or target and then potentially manipulate town with that info however they chose to.

I had never thought of something like that. For me, it was either town!BB is telling the truth or scum!BB is lying.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:47 pm
by Rad
In post 11476, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've seen a scum role that can talk to dead players actually.

and Best Bird isn't even that townie tbh
yeah no shit BB isn't townie. I've given him a pass based on "why would scum claim that role"

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:50 pm
by Off The Hook
In post 11467, Rad wrote:
In post 11466, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:r u going to like scumcase someone or what dude
Malcolm's doing the same scummy shit that I pointed out before. Go read that.

Mala's playing infinitely different than the newbie 2095 game and doesn't have a mason claim to back it up.

Pick one.
I just had a synapse fire upon seeing this
The fact that a) Roden is playing vastly different to one of his town games according to Rad and b) he’s a claimed mason immensely legitimizes his mason status too me. Last time I played with mason!Roden he vastly overplayed his informed status and made me heavily SR him.

~GE

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:52 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 11479, Rad wrote:yeah no shit BB isn't townie. I've given him a pass based on "why would scum claim that role"
to get townread?

if you're scum with a role that creates PTs with dead people, why wouldn't you claim it lol

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:54 pm
by Roden
In post 11473, Rad wrote:@Roden RCE's playing so different than my scum game with him. What's giving you a scum read on him?
RCE replaced Toad, who I scum read. I don't feel confident in the read though so I'm not hard pushing there.
In post 11474, Rad wrote:
In post 11472, Roden wrote:Rad have you read any other games of mine that wasn't 2095 or are you basing your entire read on me off of one game
Entirely just 2095, but I'm getting kinda excited that you seem to be waking up :D
Not to self meta since I don't like it, but that game isn't how I usually play. Some games I enter and I'm on point and die early for it. Other times I'm really off and never gain any momentum and just get dragged along for the ride.

2095 was a somewhat unique game because I was Cop and had to be proactive but not spot on with my reads so I don't die. But it was a newbie game so I died because it just doesn't work that way there.

My play here is because I'm a Mason in a game with a million players and my reads have been bad so I'm just staying low key and sheeping my town reads while occasionally giving content.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:59 pm
by Best Bird
In post 11471, Roden wrote:
In post 11458, Best Bird wrote:Lol - you can fuck
all
the way off of you are using that chart for that purpose.
This is a massive overreaction. If something changed that made you seem townier then it'll come up as we discuss everything. If Luke or Bell's reads changed before they died, I asked for people to update it. Acting like I'm asking for a triple execution based on old reads is ridiculous, I'm just trying to start somewhere because the game state feels directionless and I think the NK choices were important.

Like, who else should be looked at right now? I've been trying to kill BBT for 5000 years and no one wants to commit to it. Rad is probably just town here. I don't want to vote Johnny today. I could be interested in RCE but I don't think anyone else is.
Perhaps read the game then. Stop asking other people to do your work and lazy ass rely on a d1 chart.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:59 pm
by Rad
In post 11482, Roden wrote:
In post 11473, Rad wrote:@Roden RCE's playing so different than my scum game with him. What's giving you a scum read on him?
RCE replaced Toad, who I scum read. I don't feel confident in the read though so I'm not hard pushing there.
In post 11474, Rad wrote:
In post 11472, Roden wrote:Rad have you read any other games of mine that wasn't 2095 or are you basing your entire read on me off of one game
Entirely just 2095, but I'm getting kinda excited that you seem to be waking up :D
Not to self meta since I don't like it, but that game isn't how I usually play. Some games I enter and I'm on point and die early for it. Other times I'm really off and never gain any momentum and just get dragged along for the ride.

2095 was a somewhat unique game because I was Cop and had to be proactive but not spot on with my reads so I don't die. But it was a newbie game so I died because it just doesn't work that way there.

My play here is because I'm a Mason in a game with a million players and my reads have been bad so I'm just staying low key and sheeping my town reads while occasionally giving content.
To town!Roden - let me say, you got a little tunnel visioned on furtive but you played awesome. I haven't read anyone town as quickly as I read you in 2095. No joke. You're an asset if active town absolutely. We really have just a few people pushing for information here and could use more.

Same goes to town!Mala TBH. Like a different person.

As for The Toad @Roden, I also had a scum read on him until he stepped up and I lost it. Then RCE came in and I just feel this is probably town RCE. I haven't seen what town RCE looks like but scum RCE in my game played very calculated and patient. I'm not seeing that here.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:00 pm
by Best Bird
Jesus - I was vla for almost all of D1 and it seems I’m capable of more understanding than Roden.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:01 pm
by Best Bird
In post 11476, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've seen a scum role that can talk to dead players actually.

and Best Bird isn't even that townie tbh
Is this a misread then?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:01 pm
by Best Bird
I want that shit solidified pooky.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:02 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
shh i'm baiting him

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:03 pm
by Best Bird
Rad is just scum though.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:04 pm
by Rad
Flip me baby

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:04 pm
by Best Bird
I’m trying.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:05 pm
by Rad
Try harder. I believe in you.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:05 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 11490, Rad wrote:Flip me baby
One more time

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:06 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
VOTE: rad

lol ok

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:07 pm
by Rad
Johnny give me your confidence or lack thereof. Vote if not confident!

edit - wasn't pooky already voting me? I forget but though he was.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:07 pm
by Best Bird
VOTE: rad but…harder

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:07 pm
by Rad
oooh no pooky is a new vote. Hot. I love it.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:10 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 11495, Rad wrote:Johnny give me your confidence or lack thereof. Vote if not confident!
Is you asking me to vote somebody or to vote you? I'm down for both honestly

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:12 pm
by Rad
In post 11498, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 11495, Rad wrote:Johnny give me your confidence or lack thereof. Vote if not confident!
Is you asking me to vote somebody or to vote you? I'm down for both honestly
Saying vote me if you think I'm scum dude. It's ok, I forgive you.

Or you can join my Malcolm wagon. Or you can present a Mala wagon. Or you can present some case on some other wagon. All sound great.