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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:05 am
by Mist Beauty
Oversoul: "You still haven't explained how you know 3 people visited you..."
then,
Peregrine: "Two confessed. How did Fate know he was level drained?"

two != 3. Question deflection noted. Junpei, get in here and defend your townread.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:07 am
by Timeater
Neurotoxin delays all actions including the factional nightkill.

Confirmed by AV. I know because I asked.

God I wish we had a GreyIce type player in this game.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:08 am
by Oversoul
Then Peregrine is confirmed to have not submitted the kill.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:09 am
by Hinduragi
I mean simultaneous actions, Tim.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:09 am
by Timeater
Haven't I been saying that for like ages?

Junpei, Fate, get in here.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:09 am
by Mist Beauty
I think AV said somewhere that scum can kill, and send in an action if they have one. But 2 actions based on the role are not allowed.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:10 am
by kiwieagle
bu how does he know people visited him if you delayed ALL his actions :S?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:10 am
by Oversoul
What would a GreyIce player do for this game?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:10 am
by PeregrineV
Vote: Oversoul


Yes, Time targeted me, as said by Time.
Junpei targeted me, as said by Junpei.
A third person targeted me, as said by Mod.

and let's dig into what AV said that you are trying to say I said.
AurorusVox wrote:
I don't really want to talk about specific role-on-role interactions.
I will say that I'm using NAR, and that you can probably figure it out from that.

AurorusVox wrote:
Sure, maybe I need to clarify what the equivalents would be:
I'm treating a Delayer as a type of Roleblocker, and a Reflector as a type of Redirector.

You can use NAR to figure out the rest. I mean, that's what I used to work through role interactions when making the setup. It's not like I'm hiding anything, I just don't want to say "This is what will happen when X" because its up to you as players to come to those conclusions yourself.


From the wiki
Paradox and Ambiguity

Sometimes the actions that might affect each other form a loop, so that there's no action to pick in step 1. In other cases, the order of two actions matters but it isn't clear that one affects the other. When that happens, pick an action to resolve in this order:
Copy
Hide
Bus
Block- Delayer
Redirect- Reflector
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect


pedit: yes, but how was that so hard to figure out when you've already stated the order of what happened, and the mod also stated.

ppedit: too fast for this pedit crap, you'll get a post for each thing needing a response.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:11 am
by PeregrineV
Mist Beauty wrote:Oversoul: "You still haven't explained how you know 3 people visited you..."
then,
Peregrine: "Two confessed. How did Fate know he was level drained?"

two != 3. Question deflection noted. Junpei, get in here and defend your townread.


So, how did you think I knew?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:11 am
by Mist Beauty
[quote="In post 5, AurorusVox
Q: Can I use multiple active skills in the same night?

A: No: passives can be triggered during the same night that you use an active skill, but two active skills cannot be used simultaneously. However, the mafia ARE able to submit a night kill alongside any other night action they have.[/quote]

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:13 am
by Timeater
I mean simultaneous actions, Tim.


What actions would be simultaneous with NAR?

Peregrin just claim your skillbuild, please.

@OS

GI owns and rapes at connecting the dots and wrapping claims up. He's very logical and a great great setup speculator. Amazing player all around. My playstyle (and Hindu's and Fates) is very passionate and emotional. GI is a pure logician.

pedit: interesting

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:13 am
by Hinduragi
PeregrineV wrote:
Vote: Oversoul


Now is a great time to bus, NOT push a mislynch.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:14 am
by Hinduragi
"passionate and emotional"
LOL

PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE READING THIS, FATE

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:14 am
by Oversoul
PeregrineV wrote:
Vote: Oversoul


Yes, Time targeted me, as said by Time.
Junpei targeted me, as said by Junpei.
A third person targeted me, as said by Mod.

and let's dig into what AV said that you are trying to say I said.
AurorusVox wrote:
I don't really want to talk about specific role-on-role interactions.
I will say that I'm using NAR, and that you can probably figure it out from that.

AurorusVox wrote:
Sure, maybe I need to clarify what the equivalents would be:
I'm treating a Delayer as a type of Roleblocker, and a Reflector as a type of Redirector.

You can use NAR to figure out the rest. I mean, that's what I used to work through role interactions when making the setup. It's not like I'm hiding anything, I just don't want to say "This is what will happen when X" because its up to you as players to come to those conclusions yourself.


From the wiki
Paradox and Ambiguity

Sometimes the actions that might affect each other form a loop, so that there's no action to pick in step 1. In other cases, the order of two actions matters but it isn't clear that one affects the other. When that happens, pick an action to resolve in this order:
Copy
Hide
Bus
Block- Delayer
Redirect- Reflector
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect


pedit: yes, but how was that so hard to figure out when you've already stated the order of what happened, and the mod also stated.

ppedit: too fast for this pedit crap, you'll get a post for each thing needing a response.


Where did the mod say that another person targetted you?

Kiwi.... I think you are the one to answer for this...

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:15 am
by Oversoul
And my theory can still be potentially correct, as I have said 3 times before, Peregrine.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:16 am
by Hinduragi
Kiwi, RBT, or Shadow are the only 3 options left, I think.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:17 am
by Timeater
kiwi you better not have discorded

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:17 am
by Timeater
Hinduragi wrote:"passionate and emotional"LOLPLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE READING THIS, FATE


you are fag

dont make me quote LIPD

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:17 am
by kiwieagle
Your saying I used discord?

....no?

If you want I can use discord tonight just to prove I didnt.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:18 am
by Shadow Dancer
Per, Mod told you how many players targeted you?... There was such a skill... BUt not for the mystic... Please make some sense out odf this.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:18 am
by kiwieagle
Oversoul pickpocket Timeater, I will discord it to whoever.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:18 am
by Hinduragi
Timeater wrote:
Hinduragi wrote:"passionate and emotional"LOLPLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE READING THIS, FATE


you are fag

dont make me quote LIPD

You do realize all of that was to show everyone that I was town, right? As town, I am literally able to pull towntells out of my ass when I need to win the game for town.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:19 am
by kiwieagle
(even though I would prefer it to use it on scum on lylo <.<)

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:20 am
by Hinduragi
Shadow Dancer wrote:Per, Mod told you how many players targeted you?... There was such a skill... BUt not for the mystic... Please make some sense out odf this.

Did you target him? Y/N?