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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:54 pm
by Selkies
I quit clicking links and didn't review the entire list yet. but saw you led off with what were some of my best scum games. If you cherry picked such that some of my less than stellar town and scum games aren't in that pile, expect squinty eyes.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:56 pm
by Selkies
In post 1148, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1147, Selkies wrote:
In post 1146, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1145, Selkies wrote:Unless you're talking about that day 1 push that scum-you made on us for Nati's semi-appearance the night he traveled back home?
Yeah, that one and just the whole general manipulation of Nat.
I dunno. I just really liked my play in that game.
That game shook my belief that Nati can read you well. I think it shook his confidence a little too. :/

I still don't understand what scum-you putting Nati through the wringer has to do with this game. I don't think there's a similar wringer you can use on orcinus or me. And if there is, then I don't understand why you'd want to draw a parallel to your scum game in this game.
I was talking about how Cabd was so certain of you? And how it reminded me of my push on Nat in AA?
Hell if I can follow your thought process then. You're comparing Cabd's play to your AA game? And you're voting US?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:05 pm
by MafiaSSK
In post 1151, Selkies wrote:
In post 1148, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1147, Selkies wrote:
In post 1146, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1145, Selkies wrote:Unless you're talking about that day 1 push that scum-you made on us for Nati's semi-appearance the night he traveled back home?
Yeah, that one and just the whole general manipulation of Nat.
I dunno. I just really liked my play in that game.
That game shook my belief that Nati can read you well. I think it shook his confidence a little too. :/

I still don't understand what scum-you putting Nati through the wringer has to do with this game. I don't think there's a similar wringer you can use on orcinus or me. And if there is, then I don't understand why you'd want to draw a parallel to your scum game in this game.
I was talking about how Cabd was so certain of you? And how it reminded me of my push on Nat in AA?
Hell if I can follow your thought process then. You're comparing Cabd's play to your AA game? And you're voting US?
Because I don't think Cabd would be that dumb. And I'm trusting Cabd because I think his opinion is right in this case. If it turns out wrong then it's probably a scum maneuver as I did in AA and I will lynch the shit out of him.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:07 pm
by Selkies
@Cabd

Do you feel like those games represent the scope of my town and scum games?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:10 pm
by Natirasha
Vote Count 2.3

MafiaSSK(0):

Cabd(0):

Selkies(2):
Cabd, MafiaSSK
zMuffinMan(0):

notscience(0):

The Goodfather(0):

Nachomamma8(0):

Bert(0):

Aronis(0):

Idiotking(0):

Katsuki(0):

No Lynch(0):


Not Voting(9):
zMuffinMan, notscience, The Goodfather, Nachomamma8, Bert, Aronis, Idiotking, Katsuki, Selkies

With eleven alive, it takes six to lynch.

Deadline:
(expired on 2014-02-19 21:00:00)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:13 pm
by Cabd
In post 1153, Selkies wrote:@Cabd

Do you feel like those games represent the scope of my town and scum games?
No, they're all the games we've been together in. You should have noticed that.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:14 pm
by Aronis
In post 1100, Selkies wrote:I will be here. I won't be happy about changing my vote if it turns out I need to.
So let's start off with a post from yesterday, If I understand correctly, you do not want to move your vote to me, how nice.
In post 1136, Selkies wrote:
In post 1134, Cabd wrote:
In post 1133, Selkies wrote:hello im here
Hi. I found out you're scum.

Would you like to....

A: Discredit me
B: Set up false links to townies on your way down
C: Try to change my read with ~effort~
D: All of the above
none, actually, because you can read our town game so im sure you'll come round soon enough.

VOTE: aronis
Now you come out today and start off by voting me without any damn reasons, which is how I originally got votes put on me. And right after you weren't moving your vote yesterday. Could you explain that? Or are you just wanting to lynch a weaker player?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:19 pm
by Selkies
In post 1155, Cabd wrote:
In post 1153, Selkies wrote:@Cabd

Do you feel like those games represent the scope of my town and scum games?
No, they're all the games we've been together in. You should have noticed that.
I think one is missing.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:21 pm
by Selkies
In post 1156, Aronis wrote:
In post 1100, Selkies wrote:I will be here. I won't be happy about changing my vote if it turns out I need to.
So let's start off with a post from yesterday, If I understand correctly, you do not want to move your vote to me, how nice.
In post 1136, Selkies wrote:
In post 1134, Cabd wrote:
In post 1133, Selkies wrote:hello im here
Hi. I found out you're scum.

Would you like to....

A: Discredit me
B: Set up false links to townies on your way down
C: Try to change my read with ~effort~
D: All of the above
none, actually, because you can read our town game so im sure you'll come round soon enough.

VOTE: aronis
Now you come out today and start off by voting me without any damn reasons, which is how I originally got votes put on me. And right after you weren't moving your vote yesterday. Could you explain that? Or are you just wanting to lynch a weaker player?
Yesterday's post was fferyllt. Today's vote post was Orcinus. I unvoted, and we're talking about where our vote goes next.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:24 pm
by Aronis
In post 1135, Selkies wrote:If we were scum, one of you or Nacho would be dead. I don't know how to pull off another Newbie 1436 yet, and the old one will never work again.
First, Why on earth are you even thinking about who you would kill? Second, why would you go after Nacho? They are one of the weakest players who have been more anti-town then town. All in all, this post would not be made by a townie and I fail to see the reasoing behind it.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:24 pm
by Cabd
In post 1157, Selkies wrote:I think one is missing.
Did I miss one? My bad. Which one?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:31 pm
by Aronis
In post 1142, Selkies wrote:Not going to prove anything. Going to be what we are, which includes currently in disagreement about where our vote should be.

UNVOTE
So I have no clue how to read hydras. But why don't you talk things over and figure out your reads before you throw your vote put there. And why did you unvote so quickly?

Also why are you not going to at least try to prove yourself as town? It seems to me like you're just trying to ignore it and wait for it to pass over, rather then giving real answers.

Cabd's reasoning combined with your recent posts is starting to really make sense.
VOTE: Selkies

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:32 pm
by Selkies

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:36 pm
by Selkies
In post 1159, Aronis wrote:
In post 1135, Selkies wrote:If we were scum, one of you or Nacho would be dead. I don't know how to pull off another Newbie 1436 yet, and the old one will never work again.
First, Why on earth are you even thinking about who you would kill? Second, why would you go after Nacho? They are one of the weakest players who have been more anti-town then town. All in all, this post would not be made by a townie and I fail to see the reasoing behind it.
Because IF I were scum, those two players, if town would be the biggest threats to me. Way bigger than FourTrouble. Arguably Cabd would scare me more because his scum game has shaped mine, though I've definitely backslid since the last morph scum game. Nacho's had more influence on my town game.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:39 pm
by Cabd
Hmm, that dos well enough for now.

UNVOTE:

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:43 pm
by MafiaSSK
In post 1164, Cabd wrote:Hmm, that dos well enough for now.

UNVOTE:
Really? That WIFOM was enough?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:45 pm
by Cabd
In post 1165, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 1164, Cabd wrote:Hmm, that dos well enough for now.

UNVOTE:
Really? That WIFOM was enough?
Not really, no. Just assume I have a plan and let me do my own thing please.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:50 pm
by Aronis
Personally I find that answer the typical reaction and most unsatisfactory.

You just set it up perfectly, Congrats! This is exactly why you would kill FourTrouble, nobody expects it, it doesn't make any damn since for you to, so by default you must be town. Oh and don't forget the two other people on your team who wanted to lynch FT, another reason why you couldn't lynch Nacho.

My vote is staying on Mafia.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:52 pm
by Selkies
In post 1080, Selkies wrote:Based on my rethink, if it were a week from deadline I'd try to sort GoodFather. There isn't time, and I'm not going to throw out a vanity wagon. Goodfather is my message to day 2.
GoodFather is a person of interest to me.

Also, I'd like to hear from Idiotking and Zmuffin what their current thoughts on Aronis are.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:53 pm
by Selkies
In post 1109, Bert wrote:Be happy that you got your lynch, lady ffery
And this post kinda stood out to me after the flip.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:59 pm
by Selkies
In post 1167, Aronis wrote:Personally I find that answer the typical reaction and most unsatisfactory.

You just set it up perfectly, Congrats! This is exactly why you would kill FourTrouble, nobody expects it, it doesn't make any damn since for you to, so by default you must be town. Oh and don't forget the two other people on your team who wanted to lynch FT, another reason why you couldn't lynch Nacho.

My vote is staying on Mafia.
Your vote is not on Mafia.

As scum, I PR hunt for night kills, and barring that I either go after players I feel are threats to my team, or I go for unconventional kills. If you read through the first game that Cabd linked and find the Night 1 kill announcement you'll find a kill that matches the third criteria - my partner and I killed a player who claimed vanilla town at the end of day 1.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:03 pm
by Katsuki
A SELKIE WAGON??!?

VOTE SELKIE

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:11 pm
by Aronis
In post 1171, Katsuki wrote:A SELKIE WAGON??!?

VOTE SELKIE
Could you at least explain this vote?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:12 pm
by Aronis
In post 1170, Selkies wrote:
In post 1167, Aronis wrote:Personally I find that answer the typical reaction and most unsatisfactory.

You just set it up perfectly, Congrats! This is exactly why you would kill FourTrouble, nobody expects it, it doesn't make any damn since for you to, so by default you must be town. Oh and don't forget the two other people on your team who wanted to lynch FT, another reason why you couldn't lynch Nacho.

My vote is staying on Mafia.
Your vote is not on Mafia.

As scum, I PR hunt for night kills, and barring that I either go after players I feel are threats to my team, or I go for unconventional kills. If you read through the first game that Cabd linked and find the Night 1 kill announcement you'll find a kill that matches the third criteria - my partner and I killed a player who claimed vanilla town at the end of day 1.
Thank you, I'll keep that in mind.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:21 pm
by MafiaSSK
In post 1170, Selkies wrote:
In post 1167, Aronis wrote:Personally I find that answer the typical reaction and most unsatisfactory.

You just set it up perfectly, Congrats! This is exactly why you would kill FourTrouble, nobody expects it, it doesn't make any damn since for you to, so by default you must be town. Oh and don't forget the two other people on your team who wanted to lynch FT, another reason why you couldn't lynch Nacho.

My vote is staying on Mafia.
Your vote is not on Mafia.

As scum, I PR hunt for night kills, and barring that I either go after players I feel are threats to my team, or I go for unconventional kills. If you read through the first game that Cabd linked and find the Night 1 kill announcement you'll find a kill that matches the third criteria - my partner and I killed a player who claimed vanilla town at the end of day 1.
That's cool. Everyone always follows their same criteria every time. That totally happens.