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Also, in case it wasn't extremely obvious by now, I feel an on-the-fly conversation with Loki where he doesn't have time to prepare responses based on what my reads are and what questions I ask about his reads is a lot more useful than giving him a roadmap and time to come up with an artificially crafted response. I wanted natural responses and there's no better way to do this than having a quick conversation without much time to think about responses if they're fake. It's easier to spot inconsistencies in the way he's approaching reads if he doesn't have time to fully think things through (this isn't something I'd do with every player, but I think it's particularly useful for players that have a way with words if given enough time to think up responses).

That's in case you're wondering why I chose not to talk about reads prior to having a conversation with him. Initially I planned for this all to happen D1, it just ended up with me being more secretive about things when we were unable to have this conversation.

That said, I suppose you could argue I'm not reading him correctly or something, but I do not really like the responses I got from the conversation I had with him. It really does look like scum struggling to come up with a pool of players to choose from. It's he just hasn't really thought about the game in any detail since the flip and that's why his reads look so inconsistent, I guess, but eh.

Also, this reminds me... Loki, do you know why I think it's possible you were the one telling lufan to act the way he was acting at the end of yesterday? Do you understand what I meant when I said "dairy products"? I'm not really expecting anything other than a, "I know why you think this but you're wrong," answer here, but I'm just letting you know why I think what I do. It is a very minor point at best, if anything at all... It's more of an observation that is interesting to me than a point against you.

If you are town, Loki, I would prefer to work with you and figure out this game. I just don't currently think you are, and I'm looking for glimmers of green in your murky ISO. Even just some parsley in your teeth. Anything.

Votecount please, pieguyn.

↑ Zymf wrote:notscience seem to want a flavor claim really badly:

↑ notscience wrote:btw unless I see a suitable reason not to flavorclaim in the next 12 hours, skold/zymf is starting.

... but, Thor and Loki seems to be very much against flavor-claiming for some reason:

↑ Thor and Loki wrote:Let's not flavorclaim!

Maybe there is some reason why they want / don't want to flavor claim, such as:
- Mafia haven't been provided with fakeclaims
- Notscience is a Lie Detector
- Something else that might prove either usefull/harmfull for the town.

... And for this reason alone, I now support flavor claiming

↑ Mikazuki wrote:

↑ Zymf wrote:I only skimmed the thread since my last post.. so we are pushing on Shadowcat? Fine by me:

p-vote: Shadowcat

Though what about Zelink, wasn't he our main suspect?

So do you actually have any thoughts on the Shadowcat wagon or are you just gonna leave your vote and wait for more stuff to develop?

Eehm.. I liked White Narcissus' push on Shadowcat in this post. I don't see any reason why not to lynch him and I didn't know who else to place my vote on.. soo :/

Summary and speculation.

Can you give some reads please?

'Don't see any reason why not to lynch them' - Does that mean you have no scum reads you would prefer to persue or anything/anyone you want to question?

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I am Kirosake Kensuke. Also goddamn you people post like like a mailman on crack.

Huh. This is just pure speculation but I'll ask anyway, but does anyone else have a character who's not from Kisaragi? Ghosts excluded.

There would need to be to fill the numbers.

I thought that's what the ghosts are for.

Again, this could easily be a moot point, I was just curious.

9 main cast. At most 3 ghosts (though only one played a significant role in the story).

14 players.

http://corpseparty.wikia.com/wiki/Corpse_Party

Ah, I see the problem here. I assumed that the ghosts you guys were talking about were the kids, which would make it 12+3. I completely forgot about the other student ghosts.

I should probably go familiarise myself with the game, I watched the anime years ago and my memory sucks.

The OVA was brutal torture porn, but same deal. 9 main cast, three ghosts (only one played any sort of role in the plot), Sachiko, pedo-oniichan, evil library girl, other students from pedo-oniichan's school. Sachiko, pedo-oniichan and evil library girl are unlikely to be town, though.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if pedo-oniichan was a third party with the sole goal of hunting down loli-imouto. Please tell me you at least considered this, pieguyn.

I guess that makes sense. It's just that when ghosts were mentioned I automatically thought of the three kids since they were more... Ghost-y

Pedo-oniichan was so handsome until he turned out to be a crazy person ><

Mayu turning out to be scum hurts my brain though, she isn't evil in the game right? In the anime she just died at the very start (funny enough coincidence) and didn't do anything else if I remember correctly.

This game is unlikely to be completely canon.

I imagine Sachiko was given a random fake-claim and another person was selected at random to "succumb to the darkness" or something like that and be evil.

So trying to figure out who's lying based on flavour-claims is unlikely to work.

Slight off topic: How common is it for mods to supply fake claims?

In the last game I was in, a few of the players assumed that fake claims were given but that never actually happened, and a flavour claim would have been indicative of alignment (to people familiar with the theme).

It depends on the mod and their policy towards it. Some mods will give full, detailed fake-claims to scum (useful for them if they're unfamiliar with flavour), some mods will just give a fake flavour-claim and nothing else. And some mods are just inexperienced (or bad) and make games breakable via flavour.

In the last flavour-intensive game pieguyn ran, it appears there were full, detailed fake-claims. I also believe that's the case this game. The flavour ability lufan mentioned is unlikely to be something he made up on the spot (in my opinion) and, looking at the ability flavour in the other game pieguyn ran, it fits with the quirky ability naming sense. See this post, for reference. "Kind personality", "Winning with bad waits", "Unwavering Spirit", etc.

Ooh okay, thanks. Can you link me the Higurashi/another Pieguyn modded game please?

Yeah I was thinking that the ability and its name seemed fairly plausible and suprisingly well thought out for a fake claim but if it's supplied then that makes more sense.

In the the other game I was in, the scum alive on the last day ended up avoiding the game for a while because they had nothing to claim

I don't know what the Higurashi game is referring to and I don't think pieguyn has run another theme game outside of the one I linked. At least not that I can find.

A few people mentioned a Higurashi game earlier on, I think Pieguyn modded that too? I'm not sure. Thanks for linking the other one though.

The Higurashi game was offsite and pieguy was a player in it. Sakura believes he might have drawn inspiration from that one because it had similar mechanics.

~Wis

Mika, how do you feel about Shadowcat now that they posted more?

~Wis

↑ Skold wrote:Also goddamn you people post like like a mailman on crack.

This is the default speed for large themes, I'd actually argue we could do better than this. If you can't handle it, please replace out, because people are scumreading you because of your inactivity.

~Wis