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↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Klingon let's get spiffy for now. Get a good strong wagon going and then as we ride off into a beautiful sunset with a hammer at the end we can look back at Titus and itlepip and Elyse who are trying desperately to drag the wagon back even though it pushes ever forward?

↑ Klingoncelt wrote:These guys aren't noobs, Titus. Most of them have played with me before. They know how I play. They know I'm a Day 3 player.

↑ Klingoncelt wrote:The Spliff is on my Null list, so I'll have to think about it.

I'd much rather see Passionate Storm or Itlepip lynched. They're trying to control Town, as opposed to working with Town. They are Scum.

↑ Spifflop wrote:

↑ Klingoncelt wrote:These guys aren't noobs, Titus. Most of them have played with me before. They know how I play. They know I'm a Day 3 player.

Now she's trying to leverage the whole "Klingon sucks on D1" thing Jaqen spoonfed her.

~Spiffy

↑ Spifflop wrote:

↑ Klingoncelt wrote:The Spliff is on my Null list, so I'll have to think about it.

I'd much rather see Passionate Storm or Itlepip lynched. They're trying to control Town, as opposed to working with Town. They are Scum.

Here she is giving herself an out when she hops on my wagon later.
Her reason for scum reading PS and itlepip doesn't make any sense.

~Spiffy

↑ Spifflop wrote:Town: Passionate Storm, Elyse, itlepip, EP, TSO, Aunt Jemima, Garmr, Aneninen

Scum: Klingon, randomidget, Alchemist, grapes

Everyone else is null.
I can't tell if Jaqen is scum with Klingon throwing her a bone or is just stubborn town.
The way so many people latched onto his shit case makes me think scum are trying to hide behind it and he is actually town.

~Spiffy

↑ Spifflop wrote:Why do you feel that way?

~Spiffy

↑ Spiffeh wrote:Titus who else do you consider part of the town block?

~Spiffy

↑ Spifflop wrote:EVERYONE NOTICE HOW EVERYONE THAT HAS VOTED FOR ME IS TURNING A BLIND EYE TO THE ARGUMENTS PRESENTED FOR KLINGON SCUM YET ARE ACTING LIKE THEIR VOTES ARE JUSTIFIED.

No one is specifically acknowledging the main push we've had all game which means they have no fucking basis for voting us in the first place.

~Spiffy

↑ Spifflop wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:5/101 posts

You're bad.

Since when did quantity of posts matter?

~Spiffy

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:

↑ Spifflop wrote:Why do you feel that way?

~Spiffy

He's far too invested in protecting Klingon and attacking the townblock. His attacks are bullshit and designed to probe weak points in town blocks. He's systemically moved through the block, rather than being frustrated that any particular read was getting ignored. They started with me but I didn't get a wagon. Then Elyse. Then me again. Then itepip. Then you. He's getting frustrated about us being a clique and Klingon bring scumread but not any read getting traction. His attacks, especially that IRL one, are that we suck.

↑ Spifflop wrote:Lol Jaqen trying to use my anger as a means to umbrella my entire response to him as an "overblown expletive enhanced reaction" and refusing to acknowledge that his case sux

<3

~Spiffy

↑ Spifflop wrote:

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Wow, that was quite well thought out. I'll drop Elyse for now, I don't have the energy at this moment in time to continue pushing that lynch. And spifflop practically completely clears Klingon. So,

VOTE: spifflop

WHAT
THE
FUCK

So this guy drops the Elyse vote COMPLETELY after Jaqen's case (without explaining why he agrees with it) but getting him to even fucking CONSIDER Klingon as scum is like pulling teeth.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:Since the Lady of Syrup is a bit soured on a man, then she should be seeing she can at least weigh a man's thoughts evenly given the nature of her reads as compared to reality of a man's alignment...if not then with a bit of humor look at this abstract:

Given: a man is town, thus his actions are flowing accordingly


SCENARIO

Elly is facing the flame and is sweating most profusely.

Spitflop, like everyone else, is knowing this is just so.

Spitflop is taking the opportunity to derail any attention from Elly onto Celty.


HYPOTHESIS

This is pinging opportunistic in a man's mind.

If Lord Spit's scum, he's hoping Elly will swallow and they are becoming the best of buddies even though if this as well is just so, Celty is likely mislynch material. If a man is building a sufficiently clear case of early game scummotivation, then a Spifflop lynch today is superior to either lady because if Spit flipping scum reasonably town clears both.

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If you are following that LOGIC (disregarding your personal reads, just the logic), would you agree proving Spitflop scum is clearing Celty in whole and soft clearing Elly at the same time? If so and if a man is just so in his evaluation will a lady work with a man for a day?

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:Since the Lady of Syrup is a bit soured on a man, then she should be seeing she can at least weigh a man's thoughts evenly given the nature of her reads as compared to reality of a man's alignment...if not then with a bit of humor look at this abstract:

Given: a man is town, thus his actions are flowing accordingly


SCENARIO

Elly is facing the flame and is sweating most profusely.

Spitflop, like everyone else, is knowing this is just so.

Spitflop is taking the opportunity to derail any attention from Elly onto Celty.


HYPOTHESIS

This is pinging opportunistic in a man's mind.

If Lord Spit's scum, he's hoping Elly will swallow and they are becoming the best of buddies even though if this as well is just so, Celty is likely mislynch material. If a man is building a sufficiently clear case of early game scummotivation, then a Spifflop lynch today is superior to either lady because if Spit flipping scum reasonably town clears both.

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If you are following that LOGIC (disregarding your personal reads, just the logic), would you agree proving Spitflop scum is clearing Celty in whole and soft clearing Elly at the same time? If so and if a man is just so in his evaluation will a lady work with a man for a day?

Is this question for all, or merely aj?

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:A man is looking for AJ's thoughts in particular but what is this one's take?

I think spifflop could just be town set on the lynch of Klingon.

I also need to go back because I didn't see it as outright buddying of Elyse, so if this is true they could be scum together, but I need to look at this second part again because it could just be me wanting Elyse to be scum after all the work I've put into getting her lynched

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Alright,

↑ Spifflop wrote:Are you claiming Town Doctor or are you talking about your role in Twilight Zone?

And if you think Titus is playing like she did in Twilight Zone you wouldn't be scum reading her because she was town in that game.

~Spiffy

That^ sounds like it might come from town being dumb and pushing town way too hard.

↑ Spifflop wrote:

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:. I'm ok with hounding, but he just states "wrong" kinda and it's really frustrating to deal with. Klingon has at least until day 2 to prove herself in my opinion, there's scummier stuff in the pond.

stuff like this bothers me though. You don't get to dictate where the lynch goes. And delaying a lynch is almost always a scum-thing, seriously.

Eagle, I think your case is solid. I've read it over 3 times. I'm not sure what the scum motivation is? Can you explain WHY she do those strange things?

But this is actually strange. Kind of. I mean part one seems like it could be town set hopelessly on a lynch on Klingon, but the attitude shift to part 2 is particularly strange. I'd expect one or the other but they do have somewhat conflicting ideals.

↑ Spifflop wrote:You're just trying to find anything to paint her in a scummy light at this point. So you're saying that it's scummy of her to respond to your case?

PEdit: How can she get in the way?
You can still make posts. My point still stands.

~Spiffy

And part 2 of the last post sounds incredibly strange given this followup.


This might have been a good call on your part, dapper, but I'm going to take some time to think about this and maybe take a much closer look at spifflop

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:This is your nightly reminder that Elyse is scum. Vote Elyse for a happy game...

I'm sorry it's been a long day and I'm tired and it's really painful pushing a lynch that a lot of other people like to ignore. There have been quite a few questions asked of me that I have already posted answers to and usually I would direct said people to these answers but I don't really feel doing that for those poor souls tonight, so you are all welcome to read my posts actually or wait until I have enough energy and forget all the fatigue this game causes me trying to convince people of this lynch and get my happy-go-lucky how on earth could they not miss this she's obvscum attitude that I always have before I realize that my posts don't get read or they do but they skim my posts and thus misinterpret them because no one has time for the game they signed up for its a freaking large game people with 23 players how do you not get that it's going to be a lot of reading? So I'll just go back to quoting myself to people who repeatedly quote the same question over and over again to me until they finally read what I quote and realize that scumhunting is more than asking questions, you gotta look for the answers, too, and that takes work and if it doesn't take work then you haven't found scum or the scum is really really really really bad at playing scum.


That said ep I didn't know what to say about you. You've got some weird posts and you've got some that seem ok and I don't know. I would really think it would be awesome if everyone on the Klingon wagon would take the time to read spifflop, like really read them to make sure they've got it right and consider dapper s question because I think it's a good one.

Uummm what else....

If the spider Gwen wagon could share where they're at with her, I've been kinda back and forth but more forth lately about her.


I'm really tired guys. This game freaking drains you, and it's pretty thankless when there's almost no movement on the wagon. Oh well. I think I've got the finding scum thing down, I just need to work on the persuasion/ getting people lynched part.

Ummm, there was something else. Oh ok:

Elyse I'm considering dropping it on you, but that might just be because I'm tired. However, if you could make a case against anyone for me or share your reads list I swear I won't be a dick about it. And it would help my read of you. Cases against Klingon and spifflop are particularly helpful towards clearing you in my opinion, but if you're actually town I guess it would be against whoever you're scumreading most. I hope I don't regret this later.

Aneninen, shiro, and varsoon, are you two planning on taking part in a lynch today? Or is that a bad idea/

Tso did you get to/read the Elyse cases yet? What did you think of them?

Jeanne if you're there, it would be amazing if you could talk to Titus about Elyse. If you two can work through it together and be nice about it and then get back to me on a conclusion, that would really help me, I think. Or if you want to talk to me, Jeanne, I'd really like to. It could help me read y'all a little bit and it might help you convince Titus, though no promises. I don't think Titus really wants to leave the Klingon wagon and I'm really not convinced by it, but you are the second half of that hydra Jeanne so you have as much right to it as she does. If she says one thing it doesn't necessarily dictate that's how it goes, appeal to her and work with her.

Itlepip and spifflop could you make your cases on myself and Klingon and if you think one of us is town (or both, for that matter) point that out as well please? I'd prefer if the hydra made a decision beforehand but if you can't reach an agreement, two different cases is preferable.


I think that's it. I'm tired guys. Like you might not see me again until Sunday or Monday tired with the exception of maybe a quick post on Friday and Saturday. I just can't keep fighting for an Elyse lynch like I have been all the time. Oh well, perhaps it turns out alright in the end. Gnite guys. I'm not completely going to bed yet but I'm close

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:Passionate storm, Elyse, pip, spiffeh lop, Varsoon, Garmr

Applying TSO AJ , Spider Gwen

Gun to head town TWIE but his lack of content and votes makes me not care if he dies

Need to get invested: Shiro Mohis interest errant, Shiro voting scum is a good sign

Gun to head scum PV