Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:38 am
This is Kiana i thought
And I am saying that people do things that don’t make sense on the surface eg masonry or cop check or just being themselves or meta or whatever. The most likely thing is scum wouldn’t be that blatant. As town I deal with most likely.In post 1145, Reasonably Rational wrote:I don't think you answered the real thrust of the question. Though the bolding was on locktowning, the question was about the, arguably, overexplanation on the read that only came after they were informed that the read was something others found suspect.In post 1133, OnTheMark wrote:Irrelevant.In post 1131, Bronya Zaychik wrote:OtM how do you justify Maid Cafe writing a paragraph to justifylocktowninga player who said a grand total of "hi" in a 46-page thread only after being called out on its absurdity?
I have lockscummed a player for a word on page one and have been right.
-Cerb
I will personally flip your pantsu if you are bad maid! Personally!In post 1143, Maid Cafe wrote:Please refrain from personally attacking meIn post 1139, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Your maid status is also subject to performance review.In post 1136, Maid Cafe wrote:All reads are subject to review.In post 1131, Bronya Zaychik wrote:OtM how do you justify Maid Cafe writing a paragraph to justifylocktowninga player who said a grand total of "hi" in a 46-page thread only after being called out on its absurdity?
~B
It is Kiana talking right now.In post 1148, OnTheMark wrote:Oh yay!
Titus says to push something and I do.
Then I get called derp tunneling for pushing something and explaining my read as asked and assaults on my skill.
Please tell me to go write “OTM is a good player” then say I am a horrible player for writing it.
I don’t have time for this shit I am going to work.
Let me know when I am allowed to push someone.
Completely different. They discarded the push on me very quickly, and didn't really engage with any of the third parties who came to defend me.In post 1147, Bronya Zaychik wrote:A good interpretation in general, yes. Of course, there is no fine line; variables such as the strength of the player to play scum, and his/her tendency to bus must also be taken into account when performing evaluations.In post 1141, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Kiana: Noted. So does that mean that once the pressure becomes memorable, a slot is less likely to be scum with the slot they're pressuring(given the constraints previously mentioned), and that the more memorable the pressure is, the less likely it is that they're teammates?
In response to your 1131: Do you think MC is the sort of player who would, as scum, make a mistake of that caliber?
-Cerb
I've seen high levelled scum players goof up their scum fakeclaim in a Mafia Tournament before. It's not unheard of. And everybody makes mistakes. I believe it is highly plausible.
What do you think about OtM's current tunnel on Skybird. Do you see any similarities when they made the case on you, or is this a different bird altogether?
I asked you to explain your Skybird scumread, but the way you go about it makes it obvious that you are finding reasons to scumread them in retrospect amounting to a derptunnel. I'm sorry but that's what I conclude. You need to be more open-minded, I know you're better than RC, stop taking this emotionally and re-evaluate.In post 1148, OnTheMark wrote:Oh yay!
Titus says to push something and I do.
Then I get called derp tunneling for pushing something and explaining my read as asked and assaults on my skill.
Please tell me to go write “OTM is a good player” then say I am a horrible player for writing it.
I don’t have time for this shit I am going to work.
Let me know when I am allowed to push someone.
I was going to contest the existence of hypocrisy itself, but,In post 1154, OnTheMark wrote:It is Kiana talking right now.In post 1148, OnTheMark wrote:Oh yay!
Titus says to push something and I do.
Then I get called derp tunneling for pushing something and explaining my read as asked and assaults on my skill.
Please tell me to go write “OTM is a good player” then say I am a horrible player for writing it.
I don’t have time for this shit I am going to work.
Let me know when I am allowed to push someone.
I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the slot in general.
Almost to the point of rescinding town block status.
I'm kind of glad that we're approaching the same reads naturally, including the lack of opinion on Skybird and to a lesser extent IconeumIn post 1156, Reasonably Rational wrote:I also don't have much of an opinion on Skybird, and always see fluff cases spring up on them D1(like, every single game), so I haven't actually paid much attention to OTM's actual reasons for being suspicious of Skybird(also partially because it's somewhat related to Iconeum, another slot I don't have much to say about).
-Cerb
Your non defense defense is noted.In post 1156, Reasonably Rational wrote:I also don't have much of an opinion on Skybird, and always see fluff cases spring up on them D1(like, every single game), so I haven't actually paid much attention to OTM's actual reasons for being suspicious of Skybird(also partially because it's somewhat related to Iconeum, another slot I don't have much to say about).
-Cerb
Past games that I have not personally been a part of (which means, all meta references except my completed games here, including "Mass Effect") are non-evidence to me and hold no sway.In post 1164, OnTheMark wrote:Your non defense defense is noted.In post 1156, Reasonably Rational wrote:I also don't have much of an opinion on Skybird, and always see fluff cases spring up on them D1(like, every single game), so I haven't actually paid much attention to OTM's actual reasons for being suspicious of Skybird(also partially because it's somewhat related to Iconeum, another slot I don't have much to say about).
-Cerb
And I have defended Skybird D1 in Mass effect when it happened.
And I was right.
I also need Drixx to post.In post 1158, OnTheMark wrote:Because I wouldn’t get what I need to read you Cerb.
I need Drixx to post.
I still lean scum on you but it was a fruitless endeavor that would be spam.
Pfft. Do you deny that Skybird always attracts early game wagons? And that statistically, those wagons are usually on town!skybird?In post 1166, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Past games that I have not personally been a part of (which means, all meta references except my completed games here, including "Mass Effect") are non-evidence to me and hold no sway.In post 1164, OnTheMark wrote:Your non defense defense is noted.In post 1156, Reasonably Rational wrote:I also don't have much of an opinion on Skybird, and always see fluff cases spring up on them D1(like, every single game), so I haven't actually paid much attention to OTM's actual reasons for being suspicious of Skybird(also partially because it's somewhat related to Iconeum, another slot I don't have much to say about).
-Cerb
And I have defended Skybird D1 in Mass effect when it happened.
And I was right.
Then how many times I was wrong should also hold no sway yet you brought that up no problem.In post 1166, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Past games that I have not personally been a part of (which means, all meta references except my completed games here, including "Mass Effect") are non-evidence to me and hold no sway.In post 1164, OnTheMark wrote:Your non defense defense is noted.In post 1156, Reasonably Rational wrote:I also don't have much of an opinion on Skybird, and always see fluff cases spring up on them D1(like, every single game), so I haven't actually paid much attention to OTM's actual reasons for being suspicious of Skybird(also partially because it's somewhat related to Iconeum, another slot I don't have much to say about).
-Cerb
And I have defended Skybird D1 in Mass effect when it happened.
And I was right.
The last sentence is the same odds as everyone else and Cerb I am disappointed.In post 1168, Reasonably Rational wrote:Pfft. Do you deny that Skybird always attracts early game wagons? And that statistically, those wagons are usually on town!skybird?In post 1166, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Past games that I have not personally been a part of (which means, all meta references except my completed games here, including "Mass Effect") are non-evidence to me and hold no sway.In post 1164, OnTheMark wrote:Your non defense defense is noted.In post 1156, Reasonably Rational wrote:I also don't have much of an opinion on Skybird, and always see fluff cases spring up on them D1(like, every single game), so I haven't actually paid much attention to OTM's actual reasons for being suspicious of Skybird(also partially because it's somewhat related to Iconeum, another slot I don't have much to say about).
-Cerb
And I have defended Skybird D1 in Mass effect when it happened.
And I was right.
-Cerb
i think this is true. i'd like to hear Maki's take on Dunnstral too.In post 1163, Maid Cafe wrote:I wouldnt say I am bending over backwards.
I can sum up the read in like 1 sentence "Dunn does more as scum".
It is a pretty simple idea all the other words just explain why i feel that way.
~B
I've never played with Skybird before, I cannot answer these questions. You can tell us your expert witness testimony instead though.In post 1168, Reasonably Rational wrote:Pfft. Do you deny that Skybird always attracts early game wagons? And that statistically, those wagons are usually on town!skybird?In post 1166, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Past games that I have not personally been a part of (which means, all meta references except my completed games here, including "Mass Effect") are non-evidence to me and hold no sway.In post 1164, OnTheMark wrote:Your non defense defense is noted.In post 1156, Reasonably Rational wrote:I also don't have much of an opinion on Skybird, and always see fluff cases spring up on them D1(like, every single game), so I haven't actually paid much attention to OTM's actual reasons for being suspicious of Skybird(also partially because it's somewhat related to Iconeum, another slot I don't have much to say about).
-Cerb
And I have defended Skybird D1 in Mass effect when it happened.
And I was right.
-Cerb
I am just proving that since you were wrong more often than you were right, the fact that you were right just that one time to justify ~whatever point you tried to make~ was moot. It isn't even a good argument. You were trying to argue against me but your argument wasn't sound. It just makes things distracting. Titus would probably have a word with you for that.In post 1169, OnTheMark wrote:Then how many times I was wrong should also hold no sway yet you brought that up no problem.In post 1166, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Past games that I have not personally been a part of (which means, all meta references except my completed games here, including "Mass Effect") are non-evidence to me and hold no sway.In post 1164, OnTheMark wrote:Your non defense defense is noted.In post 1156, Reasonably Rational wrote:I also don't have much of an opinion on Skybird, and always see fluff cases spring up on them D1(like, every single game), so I haven't actually paid much attention to OTM's actual reasons for being suspicious of Skybird(also partially because it's somewhat related to Iconeum, another slot I don't have much to say about).
-Cerb
And I have defended Skybird D1 in Mass effect when it happened.
And I was right.