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Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 5:09 am
by Vaxkiller
Naw, shoot ico. It tells us much more than any other shot.

I dont get scum!gamma reads.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:42 am
by Theta Alpine
i personally think bbmolla is scum but i do agree that an iconeum flip would provide more information

and while i can understand a scum gamma read due to their play earlier in the day i am not as confident in them being scum as i was earlier
also i really hope we have a low number of scum in this game because this game does not make much sense otherwise

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:49 am
by StefanB
I think town BBMolla would play this game differently. Just my 2 cents.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 9:13 am
by Ausuka
In post 1151, Theta Alpine wrote:i personally think bbmolla is scum but i do agree that an iconeum flip would provide more information
this super pings me at this point considering the town:scum ratio.

not sure what else to say. I'm not as invested in this game as I probably should be.

I recall thinking stefan was buddying me earlier but I never said that. maybe that has truth to it.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:06 am
by the worst
Comments like that one of Theta's are fine in multiball fmpov.
Given conventional scumhunting doesnt work like partner hunting is all weve got and theres virtually nothing to analyse in depth

If we dont hit scum we may as well start doing organised random shoots

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:08 am
by the worst
Suddenly realising we are all mad.

There is only one person whos tried to solve this the right way and that person is Davsto

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:09 am
by the worst
Applying surface level reasoning across 20 slots is far less likely to catch scum than cycling through slots and studying them in detail until one actually pings you as scummy

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:24 am
by Taly
I looked back at
Gammagoo's
post and I still don't see think I see the argument behind an associative with me and
Not_Mafia
? -_-
Gammagoo wrote:Taly has a lotttt of what I think are overreactions and commentary on basically everything that happens in the game and I hate it in my gut but I could see a lot of it just being Taly's personality. I don't like her mention of withholding judgement from N_M and if I had to bet on anyone in the game being a teammate with N_M in particular I'd probably go with Taly but it's very largely a gut read. I also think her screenplay shot felt a little overjustified but to be fair to her screen WAS playing like an enormous pile of anti-town dogshit.
I don't understand why people in most of my games state that I overreact a lot. :facepalm:

It makes no sense for me to ignore details I pick up on in a game when I literally know jackshit. :igmeou:

Someone who says anything to the effect of
"I'm too opinionated" or "I talk too much"
tells me that they don't want to hear me or are threatened by my stances and approach to the game.

I'm tired of the WIFOM being generated consistently in this game because I'm one of the
FEW
people that outline their thought process.

Also, I don't understand the
"withhold judgment"
on
Not_Mafia
part, was earlier in the game where there were quite a few people alive compared to now, I wanted to see if any of the lurkers or people being inactive would provide content; and that was my initial response to
the worst
when he mentioned
Not_Mafia


Later was my clear assessment of his game being unhelpful and avoidant in a manner that I think would likely be scum... That's literally my entire interaction and read of
Not_Mafia
.

~~~


I'm a bit worried with scum being townblocc'ed in this game, but some of my reads have changed, and after rereading the thread and hating how uncertain I am with some of my reads.

I will say I'm on board with a
BBmolla
shot, they've intentionally not done anything in this game and I seriously don't understand some of the consistent townreads on him without really much stated reasoning. If there's any flip that would provide insight into any associatives and give light to multiple interactions, it would be here. This would help me with several of my own reads.

Also, I don't see a major point on shooting
Davsto
, I still get townvibes from him.

Everyone else is some form of townread or conflicted read. I feel like there's a lower amount of scum than we originally anticipated seeing as how we'd have lost around this point. :/

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:35 am
by Taly
X_X I should go back to English class, the grammar mistakes in my posts lately are too much.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:40 am
by the worst
what the, fuck is?? grammar!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 1:45 pm
by light_ganski
To the people saying there's fewer scum than we thought - 1) How many scum do you suppose we have, and 2) As it's multiball, it wouldn't be endgame until one of the teams is eliminated so...

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 1:49 pm
by wingedcatgirl
I'm busy at the moment unfortunately but a quick skim and I'm now feeling a "BBmolla or Ausuka" shot. Leaning Ausuka.

Stefan is super not on my radar and it's disconcerting.

Theta is just. still really confusing.

Image

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:22 pm
by wingedcatgirl
In post 1161, wingedcatgirl wrote:I'm busy at the moment
And this just got cancelled. Actual effort incoming.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:28 pm
by Austerity
Two hours later...

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:37 pm
by wingedcatgirl
I didn't mean immediately. In retrospect, I definitely should not have said "incoming".

... Though this is still past when I
did
mean, so.
I'm scatterbrained. Okay. It's late and I'm sleep-deprived again.

In any case. An effort post will be made before I do a shooting thing. Unless people scream "argh hurry up and shoot already, you are the last one and we are impatient", I guess.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:25 pm
by BBmolla
@mod: replace out


I’m sorry

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:17 am
by xyzzy
MagnaofIllusion replaces BBmolla

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:30 am
by StefanB
Hello MoI.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:32 am
by wingedcatgirl
Well - does anyone here specifically
not
want to hear from Magna before I do my thing? I can't why that might be, but I thought I'd ask.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:33 am
by StefanB
Definitly want to hear from him.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:39 am
by MagnaofIllusion
Hi. I’ve been vaguely following along watching the carnage. Not planning a full read until Monday best case.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 2:19 pm
by MagnaofIllusion
Ok now that I am at a computer I can elaborate a bit.

Real talk - I'm not doing the full re-read treatment until after today ends. There is a non-zero chance that wingedcatgirl shoots me today and I'm not putting in effort if the end result is just that. Sorry but not sorry.

I will say if I'm alive at nightfall I'll be reading into three things ...

1. The quality players on the dead list who got shot, especially early. For example no fucking way should Gorkington have been killed that early and if that killer is still alive they need rope ASAP.
2. Posting by the two flipped scum and associations with living players (specifically in the direction of dissuading shots their way or in the BP scum's case discouraging a second shot).
3. The whole Pricks fiasco and the reasons or lack thereof for people joining up. That sort of mutual protection strategy greatly benefits scum to be part of that crowd in the early part of the game when lots of shots are flying.

Parting thoughts ...

Taly's last post screams "Caught for the wrong reason". I mean it is clear she'd not see the case on her regardless of her alignment and spent way to long stressing how "I'm clear and logical" she is which doesn't mean Town especially in Multiball. Also the whole "Oh, now I'm worried about scum in the Townblock" also reads bad since it is pretty clear that group has probably at least 2 to 3 scum hiding inside. If I do die before Night I'd like her head mounted on a pike.

Aside from her off the top of my head I'd also like theworst dead sooner rather than later. Mostly gut at this stage but I will revisit if I make it past Night.

So shoot away Wing ... this is all you are seeing from my slot beforehand.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 12:36 am
by TheBrie
I'm back. I had much fun.

I'll post properly when I'm less tired.

But for now, I'm getting an odd feeling about the worst. His defense of Theta suggesting we shoot for information rather than scum, didn't make complete sense to me. Yes partner associations could be useful, but why can't we do proper scum hunting? Is this game really that far from the ordinary.

And how come Davsto is scum hunting properly? He's not caught anyone.


Gorkinton was shot by Ankamius, who was shot by Lovebird soon after. And according to my notes, Lovebird was going off what sounded like a reasonable read. Ankamius was also town.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 1:32 am
by MagnaofIllusion
Also I'd like to apologize to Taly for misgendering him.

Still think he reeks of scum.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 9:45 am
by Davsto
In post 1153, Ausuka wrote:I recall thinking stefan was buddying me earlier but I never said that. maybe that has truth to it.
I ISOed Stefan and ctrl+f'd your name and only found two mentions of you. Any chance you could search through for what exactly made you think he was buddying you?
In post 1171, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Posting by the two flipped scum and associations with living players (specifically in the direction of dissuading shots their way or in the BP scum's case discouraging a second shot).
Just going to point out that the BP player Snarky was a traitor so you wouldn't get any associatives from him, before you go around putting effort into it. Totally understand your not reading the game since you are pretty likely to get shot.