Mafiascum.net

In post 1005, Shoshin wrote:How many scum should we expect in a 15 player game?

4? since this isn’t mountainous.

Alright, this is where I'm at:

Nancy, Nico - town

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WhemeStar - leans town for pushing Creature/Random and because overall he seems to play without any concern for appearances in a way that's more likely to come from town than scum.

Joral - leans town because of his early play but hasn't posted enough to solidify a read.

Vartsun (Varsoon/Taly) - leans town because they haven't done anything to make me think otherwise plus early post seem aimed at sorting alignments.

ArcAngel9 - leans town, because of early negative utility claim, which I think is more likely to be town than scum motivated, and recent posting doesn't really make much sense from a scum perspective - it's the sort of crazy that's more likely to come from town than scum.

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PFKAP - null, lots of shit posts without doing anything helpful

Princess of Renais - null, lots of shit posts without doing anything helpful

Scioness Sajj - null, because even though there's hints of scum, Nancy says she's town and I'm willing to suspend my read for the moment - as I mentioned earlier, I felt like she was pushing me with a tone of conviction but didn't actually have any conviction behind it, so the push felt fake - and since then she hasn't done anything to make me feel better about her alignment. I tried starting a discussion with her, as a way to get a better sense of her alignment as well as to refine my own reads on Random/Reality, but her answers were boring, so I still don't feel town here - she's mostly just commenting on things without much deeper thinking about the game but at least she's around and posting, so I'm okay trusting Nancy on this for the moment.

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The Worst - strongly leans scum, because he's made himself unreadable by refusing to answer my questions, and despite telling him that it's causing me paranoia about his alignment at a time when this town needs to come together, not rift apart, he has chosen to continue refusing to answer my questions and thus to continue causing paranoia - in other words, he's intentionally causing me paranoia without any reason to do so and at a time when this town should be working together, it's precisely the right move to make because he gets to hurt town while avoiding getting lynched because nobody wants to lynch him and nobody seems to think that question-dodging is scummy - he's also been supporting votes on me despite offering no reasons to suspect me nor even voting me himself - and his read on Sajj hasn't been explained and I suspect it had no basis (i.e. it was fake) - and I'm also paranoid that he's one of the conspiracy forces trying to clutter the game with lots of pointless posts that make it more difficult for others to become engaged because of the sheer quantity of meaningless posts to wade through because despite his large post count I can't trace any sort of clear thought process trying to sort alignments underlying his posts.

Reality Check (Ank/Mastina) - strongly leans scum, because of terrible early posting, terrible vote on me, pushing pro-scum ideas (lynching for information instead of lynching to kill scum), not responding at all to my analysis of Random, and because if Random/Creature are scum, it's likely that Reality is too - also, they expressly said that scum should be scared of me, despite knowing nothing about me, which makes me think that they KNOW my reads are actually pretty good, specifically the fact that I called them out so early - like, why would Reality say scum would be scared of me if they think all my reads are wrong? Doesn't make any sense, unless Reality is scum. Reality's degree of certainty that I'm scum also doesn't square with anything they've said about my play - I disagree with them about an issue relating to how to play mafia, and suddenly they're 100% convinced I'm scum and won't even engage with me anymore? Won't answer why they're voting me? Won't talk with me about Random? That's the sort of certainty that scum faking a case on town display, because if town they'd have at least some reservations and at least try understanding where I'm coming from - but Reality instead is just straight-up accusatory without any attempt to actually sort alignments here.

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Creature - scum, because of meta and because he's completely unengaged with the game, not showing much if any sign of scumhunting or figuring things out.

Random - scum, because of unnatural response to Nico, thoughtless response to my analysis, and because of terrible play at the end of D1.

So, basically, I'm willing to lynch any of the worst, Reality, Creature, or Random.

In post 1147, NicoRobin wrote:

In post 1139, ArcAngel9 wrote:OKAY. LET ME GIVE YOU HEADS UP

READ THE DAY START FLAVOR. THERE IS A HIT ABOUT SOMEONE THERE.

AMD DONT ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

In post 831, NicoRobin wrote:Anyone who votes me or Nancy is scum. This ain't a bluff. I am a baby with power. You have been warned.

Can we lynch this. It should have happened yesterday.

In post 833, Randomnamechange wrote:YoU hAvE bEeN wArNeD

Another scum!

In post 841, TPFKAP wrote:VOTE: creature

I am okay with lynch too. Creature is most certainly not scum.

In post 1137, NicoRobin wrote:But.....there is only one baby with power. There can't be two or more babies with power......

I am serious. Lets get this.

VOTE: Nicorobin

Hey, how about you and I lynch this? Then I won't inv. you.

Im down. I would say my main pool rn is them, tpf, renais and shoshin

In post 1149, RadiantCowbells wrote:mm cake

In post 1150, RadiantCowbells wrote:pagetop!

In post 1154, Randomnamechange wrote:

In post 1147, NicoRobin wrote:

In post 1139, ArcAngel9 wrote:OKAY. LET ME GIVE YOU HEADS UP

READ THE DAY START FLAVOR. THERE IS A HIT ABOUT SOMEONE THERE.

AMD DONT ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

In post 831, NicoRobin wrote:Anyone who votes me or Nancy is scum. This ain't a bluff. I am a baby with power. You have been warned.

Can we lynch this. It should have happened yesterday.

In post 833, Randomnamechange wrote:YoU hAvE bEeN wArNeD

Another scum!

In post 841, TPFKAP wrote:VOTE: creature

I am okay with lynch too. Creature is most certainly not scum.

In post 1137, NicoRobin wrote:But.....there is only one baby with power. There can't be two or more babies with power......

I am serious. Lets get this.

VOTE: Nicorobin

Hey, how about you and I lynch this? Then I won't inv. you.

Im down. I would say my main pool rn is them, tpf, renais and shoshin

That offer was for RC only.....

uh oh a party!

In post 1150, RadiantCowbells wrote:

The Goblin King has begun to sing!

You have all been invited to a masquerade ball.

I accept.

In post 1153, Shoshin wrote:So, basically, I'm willing to lynch any of the worst, Reality, Creature, or Random.

this team makes no sense

In post 1159, Ankamius wrote:

In post 1153, Shoshin wrote:So, basically, I'm willing to lynch any of the worst, Reality, Creature, or Random.

this team makes no sense

I'm mad

As i said, shoshin seems to have chosen random stances rather than having genuine process

Who wants to be that random is the Goblin King?

VOTE: randomidget

My first vote is in the works. Congratulations!

In post 1010, Shoshin wrote:

In post 830, Randomnamechange wrote:

In post 809, the worst wrote:

In post 802, RadiantCowbells wrote:Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 1.33:

Creature (4): Vartsun, TPFKAP, Shoshin, WhemeStar
TPFKAP (3): Creature, Randomidget, Nancy Drew 39
NicoRobin (2): ArcAngel9, Princess of Renais
Princess of Renais (1): TehBrawlGuy, Joral
ArcAngel9 (0):
Shoshin (0):
WhemeStar (0):
Joral (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Vartsun (0):
TehBrawlGuy (0):
Randomidget (0):


Not voting: NicoRobin

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.

The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-07 15:00:00).

Wheme I'm gonna need an explanation for why you switched wagons then switched back when Creature is 150,000% obviously playing in his scum meta. I've seen you correctly identify this before and wagon him with fire, why the flipflopping yday?


also gonna need commentary from the following players on why the fuck they voted off-wagon yesterday, and also what their experience playing with creature is. i will be fact checking this
: - randomidget
: - nancy drew 39
: - arcangel9
: - princess of renais
: - nico robin [who I know has seen creature's scum meta firsthand, and did not bus him there]

i feel like creature was playing to his scum meta but he didnt care that he was? i think that he would at least have bothered to bullshit some reads towards the end of the day as scum.

In post 812, NicoRobin wrote:Also, I am over the last day too. So anyone who wants to lynch Nancy will have to go through me first. So bring it on, nerdz.

sounds good.
VOTE: nicorobin
i'm not letting them get away with not playing the game.

In post 832, Randomnamechange wrote:btw guys anyone who votes me is scum
no evidence for it or anything
they just are

In post 833, Randomnamechange wrote:YoU hAvE bEeN wArNeD

In post 834, Randomnamechange wrote:also to clarify i have a hard townread on nancy
i just refuse to allow nico to get away with this bullshit

In post 837, Randomnamechange wrote:TIL being a PR in a role madness game lets you not play the game.

In post 839, Randomnamechange wrote:why do you even play mafia if you dont want to play mafia
unless its a post restriction or some shit, it still doesnt excuse refusing to post any content.

In post 842, Randomnamechange wrote:*refuses to vote in lylo*
*blames other people for not flipping someone*

In post 843, Randomnamechange wrote:i dont have a problem with you not having reads. i have a problem with you refusing to post any game related content.

Nancy, thoughts on Random?

I obviously liked their vote on TP/letters (her nic is really hard on my dyslexia lol). I completely agreed with their reaction to Nico on d1 but now that it’s beyond blatantly obvious that she’s town now, not so much. As for Creature, his flip will resolve that.

I’m honestly not sure what to make of it at this point.

In post 1161, Randomnamechange wrote:As i said, shoshin seems to have chosen random stances rather than having genuine process

well yeah

that's not the underlying reason she's scum, but it's a damn big indicator

In post 1159, Ankamius wrote:

In post 1153, Shoshin wrote:So, basically, I'm willing to lynch any of the worst, Reality, Creature, or Random.

this team makes no sense

The Worst + Reality suspecting each other on D1 but coming into D2 100% convinced they're town? Makes sense as scum interactions.

Reality delaying the lynching of Creature? Makes sense as scum/scum.

Reality listing Random as possible scum but as soon as I point out that Random is scum Reality votes me for idiotic reasons and doesn't say anything about Random at all? Makes sense as scum/scum.

The Worst supporting Reality's vote on me while offering no comments on Random? Makes sense as scum/scum.

It actually makes too much sense that I'm worried it's wrong somewhere.

In post 1162, NicoRobin wrote:Who wants to be that random is the Goblin King?

VOTE: randomidget

My first vote is in the works. Congratulations!

Works for me.

VOTE: Random

Theres such a sad love
Deep in your eyes

Why would reality not just bus me here

Baby with power commands you to lynch here. Baby with power will inv. anyone who doesn't.

In post 1165, Shoshin wrote:

In post 1159, Ankamius wrote:

In post 1153, Shoshin wrote:So, basically, I'm willing to lynch any of the worst, Reality, Creature, or Random.

this team makes no sense

A

The Worst + Reality suspecting each other on D1 but coming into D2 100% convinced they're town? Makes sense as scum interactions.

B

Reality delaying the lynching of Creature? Makes sense as scum/scum.

C

Reality listing Random as possible scum but as soon as I point out that Random is scum Reality votes me for idiotic reasons and doesn't say anything about Random at all? Makes sense as scum/scum.

D

The Worst supporting Reality's vote on me while offering no comments on Random? Makes sense as scum/scum.

It actually makes too much sense that I'm worried it's wrong somewhere.

the amount of theater this would require is absolutely insane

especially when we're in a gamestate where half the playerlist has yet to check in for the day

More reasons to suspect Random and Reality:

In post 1164, Reality Check wrote:

In post 1161, Randomnamechange wrote:As i said, shoshin seems to have chosen random stances rather than having genuine process

that's not the underlying reason she's scum, but it's a damn big indicator

These guys are basically ignoring all the analysis I've offered that clarifies precisely why I think what I think and why none of it is random.

Quivering in my boots rn

In post 1171, Shoshin wrote:More reasons to suspect Random and Reality:

In post 1164, Reality Check wrote:

In post 1161, Randomnamechange wrote:As i said, shoshin seems to have chosen random stances rather than having genuine process

that's not the underlying reason she's scum, but it's a damn big indicator

These guys are basically ignoring all the analysis I've offered that clarifies precisely why I think what I think and why none of it is random.

coming from the person who tells me that I'm scummy for trying to avoid a scum lynch for a scum lynch yet never explains why my reasoning is wrong, even though I thoroughly answered you when you went into why it was a scummy stance

Shoshin ignored my rebuttals of their points to claim that no rebuttal was given