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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:26 pm
by Espeonage
Actually no fuck that.

Why the hell would EP make their own role that?

Fire, that is bullshit.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:30 pm
by Espeonage
Also what the fuck kind of role is that when there is someone who needs you to rank lowly for their role too.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:31 pm
by the worst
did someone say data~?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:31 pm
by Fire Assassin
Is this the hill you want to die on?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:34 pm
by Espeonage
In post 1153, Fire Assassin wrote:Is this the hill you want to die on?
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:34 pm
by Fire Assassin
In post 1151, Espeonage wrote:Also what the fuck kind of role is that when there is someone who needs you to rank lowly for their role too.
Sounds like a balancing tool to ensure my results won’t always be accurate
For example if I told everyone day one to give me a high ranking because role reasons and got everyone to agree the other part of my role wouldn’t matter.

Going to try arguing against that?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:35 pm
by TehBrawlGuy
espe where is your fullclaim I can't find it

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:36 pm
by Espeonage
The balancing tool is that either me or dunn becomes vanilla. It doesn't need another one.

Also, EP flavour, in your best paraphrasing, and go.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:36 pm
by Taly
Screen is the only ranking that hasn't been said so far, and he hasn't posted at all today.

So I think the average and placement I'll put everyone at will be relatively accurate

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:38 pm
by Espeonage
In post 136, Espeonage wrote:
In post 135, Dunnstral wrote:Hi, this is a thing.

For my role, I need Fire Assassin to be rated highly today
And I am the antithesis, I need him to do poorly.

But that's cool bc he scum.
In post 144, Espeonage wrote:I need vax higher than fa
we have not claimed what it gives us, I thought we had.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:39 pm
by Fire Assassin
In post 1156, TehBrawlGuy wrote:espe where is your fullclaim I can't find it
He didn't fullclaim.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:39 pm
by Espeonage
Whoever won the bet got to choose to vig, protect, or vanillaise the other.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:40 pm
by Espeonage
Ok sorry I thought I had. The core mechanic however was known early.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:40 pm
by Fire Assassin
is that your full role?
nothing else?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:42 pm
by Espeonage
Nothing else.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:43 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1161, Espeonage wrote:Whoever won the bet got to choose to vig, protect, or vanillaise the other.
Can confirm I have the same role

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:44 pm
by Fire Assassin
Hey dunnstral, I asked you a question.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:47 pm
by Dunnstral
I believed that there was scum in our four, yes, I thought it was vax day 1, I thoguht it was you day 2

Anyways, if espeonage ends up being scum then I'm pretty much confirmed town because his role includes a vig that can only target me and there's serious setup shenanigans if we were both scum

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:50 pm
by Taly
I'm doing the average's and kicking myself in the ass for ranking
Fire
low

also,
PP
wins an award for 0ing the most universal 10s and high scores, while high scoring the most low scores. I thought that was interesting

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:51 pm
by Errantparabola
Votecount 2.6


Espeonage
(6): DeasVail, Fire Assassin, the worst, Taly, PenguinPower, TehBrawlGuy
Fire Assassin
(2): Dunnstral, Espeonage

Not Voting
(7): Punreader, MariaR/Chara, Nahdia, Srceenplay, Vaxkiller, Shoshin

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-04 23:06:00)

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:52 pm
by Fire Assassin
In post 1167, Dunnstral wrote:I believed that there was scum in our four, yes, I thought it was vax day 1, I thoguht it was you day 2

Anyways, if espeonage ends up being scum then I'm pretty much confirmed town because his role includes a vig that can only target me and there's serious setup shenanigans if we were both scum
This just seems like weak reasoning to townread/scumread people, and its like moon logic that Titus would use in a 4 player neighborhood scenario.
Like take these roles and replace them with a neighborhood and you would be chanting that one of the people has to be scum.

And theres been games with 4 town neighborhoods and 4 scum neighborhoods. Its all mod WIFOM. Unless you want to now go into EP mod meta, this isn't useful thinking nor accurate in anyway.

So is there game reasons for thinking any of these alignments are true, because I think gameplay wise, I have good reasons to think Espe is scum, and this isn't even considering my own role. Which I am sure makes him confirmed scum now.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:53 pm
by Taly
ugh, damnit. -_-

Fire
has 67 points to divide from.
Espe
has 69 points to divide from.

so we need screens rankings to decipher if the result was truthful or not.

but i do think
espe
is more likely scum here, but still.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:55 pm
by the worst
tfw pine is more useful than srceen

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:56 pm
by Fire Assassin
In post 1171, Taly wrote:ugh, damnit. -_-

Fire
has 67 points to divide from.
Espe
has 69 points to divide from.

so we need screens rankings to decipher if the result was truthful or not.

but i do think
espe
is more likely scum here, but still.
my own calculations has something different than this.
Also I don't think screenplay submitted

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:57 pm
by Taly
oh wait,
Pine/Nico/LB
technically had their rankings in

i can def see
Pine
raising
Fire
up and idk why
Nico
or
LB
would upvote
Espe
, especially after his EoD1 posts
Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1171, Taly wrote:ugh, damnit. -_-

Fire
has 67 points to divide from.
Espe
has 69 points to divide from.

so we need screens rankings to decipher if the result was truthful or not.

but i do think
espe
is more likely scum here, but still.
my own calculations has something different than this.
Also I don't think screenplay submitted
I'm averaging from the 14 full-lists. I'm not 100% accurate