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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:52 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1141, Shinori wrote:I have more pressing issues between penguin and RC personally and I felt like RC entered spew mode during this day phase like almost instantly upon it starting.
RC slot is probably town, but that's a medium stance from me right now.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:52 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 1147, PenguinPower wrote:
Says the guy with 12 posts and 2 votes.
I don't do reads. Look at my posts and votes.
Regarding the nk/not nk, I'm not assuming at the moment. I'm not denying, but I'm not really considering it right now.
In post 1145, FA_Q2 wrote:There is ZERO content from all 3 of those slots. None whatsoever.
Nico I agree with, and would happy to quicklynch the slot tho.
Why do you only pop up when you're being talked about. :/
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:53 pm
by PenguinPower
I think that's a disingenuous statement.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:54 pm
by Shinori
My initial reasons for scum reading you are weak and based off early day 1 stuff. That's also one big reason why I'm not even bothering to push you(barring Scum RC flip).
As for dunn; the one game I played with him in he was this way as well, but he did post more, he gave more reads, and was actually attempting to do some scum hunting, albeit minor. This game I feel like he has done almost none of that.
Why is RC town? @penguin guy
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:56 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 1153, Shinori wrote:My initial reasons for scum reading you are weak and based off early day 1 stuff. That's also one big reason why I'm not even bothering to push you(barring Scum RC flip).
Then why don't you catch up then?
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:56 pm
by Kokichi Oma
It's how it feels. Can you give me 3 scumreads of yours and 3 townreads of yours? With reasons?
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:57 pm
by PenguinPower
Mostly meta, but his reaction to the votes and the fact that he actually pushed me for it leads me to believe he's town. Usually scum!RC would like to keep me around until later game. Of course, it's been a long time since we've played in the same game which is why it's a ~medium stance.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:57 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1155, Kokichi Oma wrote:
It's how it feels. Can you give me 3 scumreads of yours and 3 townreads of yours? With reasons?
No.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:59 pm
by FA_Q2
In post 1149, Kokichi Oma wrote: In post 1139, FA_Q2 wrote: In post 1135, Kokichi Oma wrote: In post 1127, FA_Q2 wrote:@everyone on PP
why PP and not Nico or popo. They are doing the same crap even more pronounced.
I can undestand why you say Nico but why Popop?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10431776
Do I really need to say more?
popo is the worst of the 3 - a few questions or comments sprinkled in here and there with no real interest in the answers. Nico (in particular) and PP might as well have a post count of 0 - they have literally said nothing at all.
I mean, wtf is this:
Is there even a scenario where this is something a town player would ask? In what way is an answer to this supposed to help us?
VOTE: popopopopopopo
Yes, I guess his iso is poor. But, what have you done except right now? Why not ask him his reads and such.
You 'guess.'
Read my response to Dunn. There is a difference in zero content and low post count. I did not have much time over the last few weeks but should have more from now on so I will be more active. I am asking him for content - that is why my vote is there.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:00 pm
by FA_Q2
Seriously?
N/M -
VOTE: PP
Do something of hang.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:00 pm
by PenguinPower
Why does that make me scum?
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:04 pm
by FA_Q2
Assuming that was to me: It makes your slot utterly useless and makes it impossible to read you.
Who has motivation to be useless in catching scum and impossible to read???
Here is a hint - it's not town. If you are going to actively post nothing then why should I not vote for you?
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:04 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Okay Penguin, look at it from my view.
1. We've played one game together where you were town and you took a lead for a lot of the game. You were engaging and constantly giving reads (
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go )
2. And then we have this game, were you aren't doing much and your posts seem lacking in terms of reads and engaging people (
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10432300)
If I compare these two, what else am I supposed to think other than you're just scum this game? Why should I think you're town?
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:06 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1161, FA_Q2 wrote:
Assuming that was to me: It makes your slot utterly useless and makes it impossible to read you.
Who has motivation to be useless in catching scum and impossible to read???
Here is a hint - it's not town. If you are going to actively post nothing then why should I not vote for you?
A critical thought. Well done.
I think you need to start reading posts and look at motivation and votes. Not rely on being spoonfed readlists that can be easily generated by either alignment.
I don't do readlists. I especially don't do readlists on command.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:10 pm
by PenguinPower
Hi. I feel I need to repeat that this game started at a bad time for me and I was gone for most of D1. I think I have been more present since the start of D2...especially since it's the weekend and I am usually not here much on weekends.
I also think that I have started to give my reads this day. If you look at your representation of your "only" game with me where I was town, did I do a readlist? Did I give 3 scum and 3 town with reasons?
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:11 pm
by Sakura Hana
Wouldnt scum be more likely to feed you a reads list to avoid being lynched than to just say no?
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:13 pm
by Sakura Hana
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:13 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 1165, Sakura Hana wrote:Wouldnt scum be more likely to feed you a reads list to avoid being lynched than to just say no?
Depends on the person. But, I'll agree with PP that he didn't give 'readlists' in the other game. But, I still think he was more engaging there. I'll see how he progresses throughout the day, cause he could have just been busy as he was saying.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:21 pm
by Sakura Hana
It might as well just be a PP-Specific thing and be NAI, and he wouldn't be the first player to do that either.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:23 pm
by PenguinPower
VOTE: Nico
Good spot for now.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:33 pm
by FA_Q2
In post 1163, PenguinPower wrote: In post 1161, FA_Q2 wrote:
Assuming that was to me: It makes your slot utterly useless and makes it impossible to read you.
Who has motivation to be useless in catching scum and impossible to read???
Here is a hint - it's not town. If you are going to actively post nothing then why should I not vote for you?
A critical thought. Well done.
I think you need to start reading posts and look at motivation and votes. Not rely on being spoonfed readlists that can be easily generated by either alignment.
I don't do readlists. I especially don't do readlists on command.
And I think that you need to start doing something. I would look at your motivation if I could suss any out without a single post with content. Readlists
with reasons
cannot be 'easily' generated by either alignment. You did not even provide a single read with a reason.
It is not the fact that you did not give a readlist that earned you my vote, it is the fact you flatly decided to do no reasoning at all.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:35 pm
by PenguinPower
Well...that's not true at all.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:43 pm
by PenguinPower
Sorry...for some reason I thought I answered this.
RC has a history of besting me in later game phases, especially MyLo/LyLo. Doesn't make sense to me to push me as a counter to him unless he was town. There were better options.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:05 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Not a good vote. As much as I would love to policy Nico in every game, this isn't a good time.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:58 pm
by Shinori