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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:01 pm
by TemporalLich
In post 1147, Elbirn wrote:Okay great now take that energy and put a fucking gun in my mouth

Make content happen so this malaise can stop
If I were a dayvig you'd be shot right now.

here is my ISO delve into Elbirn:

- naked vote with little context

- premature roleclaim and taunting the lynch

- you didn't get the joke in

- seriously?

- scum-motivated post, explicitly buddying

-
openwolfing


- you're actually voting mastina because I scumread you for the Elbirn/mastina interaction?

- looking for an easy mislynch


In post 1148, Elbirn wrote:Why do you scumread me

Make me answer for my crimes against humanity
Are you that desperate in trying to appear town? You know what, I think you're as town as a polluted mire full of pond scum in the forbidden zone where even the undead dies.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:13 pm
by TemporalLich
In post 1149, Elbirn wrote:Better yet, I can stop being a self absorbed punk and ask the real question I've been dying to have answered and no one will tell me

Why do you townread mastina? On what grounds my dude?
An ISO skim tells me mastina is consistent in efforting and has good posts.

is very scummy, but this actually doesn't make me scumread mastina as she scumreads me if you ignore (not the best reason to drop a scumread but eh).

Also your case on mastina amounts to and an unsupported case on mastina fakeclaiming masons which is not a case even in my dimension of stellar tigers and arcane stars.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:13 pm
by Elbirn
I lied I want to repeat this experiment with someone who isn't stupid

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:34 am
by TiphaineDeath
Mastina is likely to be town to me because she thought the same way I did about the Jjh wagon. The only reality in which mastina=scum is the reality in which jjh also=scum which seems less and less likely.

One of Elbirn-TL-EP should die today.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:55 am
by eth0s
In post 1125, Menalque wrote:Eth0s what are your reads atm?
I was trying to get to this earlier but I really need to check ISOs to flesh out my reasoning, and the site has been running so slowly. I will try to chip away at it over the next couple of hours as I load up quotes.

Unless you just want some barebones/minimal info reads in which I guess I could provide those but I hardly see that as useful
In post 1126, Menalque wrote:
In post 1123, eth0s wrote:I am feeling really apathetic towards this game now. Can we just lynch elements thanks.
Talk to me about elements vs EP va TL bby
same as above to a degree but I can go into this at least based on what I remember.

Elements: I feel pretty good about this one flipping scum. His low content in this game and seemingly strong desire to active lurk and pretend like he is doing something really pings me the wrong way. Normally I might feel a bit hesitant to lynch him since it's common PR play as well, but I'm 99% sure everyone in this game is a PR (unless someone actually submitted items to try and get VT LOL) so that point is pretty moot. Him dodging my questions only adds to the bad vibes.

EP: His recent play is cleaned up a bit, even if it was somewhat forced to occur in the first place. I wouldn't let him off the hook totally -- and I haven't, but like I said before, there is something I am waiting to happen/not happen that is currently preventing me from wanting to go through with a lynch on him at this time. I can't really say more than that without potentially harming the gamestate. I would probably be more inclined to share if we had our PT but that dream is dead :/

TL: I think I've covered this pretty well, no? His townplay is chaotic. His scumplay is likely also chaotic. For how little I care for the current state of the game I could easily fall into a tunnel on him like I have before, but then I'll just get pissed off and end up vote parking him on a potential mislynch. Hence my hammer solution.

Why won't you vote Elements with me?

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:11 am
by Chemist1422
In post 1153, TiphaineDeath wrote:Mastina is likely to be town to me because she thought the same way I did about the Jjh wagon. The only reality in which mastina=scum is the reality in which jjh also=scum which seems less and less likely.

One of Elbirn-TL-EP should die today.
Are any teams between the three impossible to you?

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:01 am
by Elbirn
In post 1153, TiphaineDeath wrote:Mastina is likely to be town to me because she thought the same way I did about the Jjh wagon. The only reality in which mastina=scum is the reality in which jjh also=scum which seems less and less likely.

One of Elbirn-TL-EP should die today.
In post 1122, TiphaineDeath wrote:If you'll look at my so-called Tinfoil post and what follows it I find the full reasonable team of Jjh-elbirn-mast.

It seems significantly more likely at this point that my new theory is correct but you asked for all my possible worlds.
Am I the only person who got a green role PM

Or are you all actually fucking stupid

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:04 am
by Elbirn
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elements

Everyones talking about it but nobody's doing it, vote elements and make this day end I'm fucking done

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:06 am
by Elements
In post 1154, eth0s wrote:Him dodging my questions only adds to the bad vibes.
I asked you what questions you asked me and you didn't respond. I can't answer questions I don't know exist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:04 am
by TiphaineDeath
Chemist, like what?

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:07 am
by Menalque
In post 1154, eth0s wrote:
In post 1125, Menalque wrote:Eth0s what are your reads atm?
I was trying to get to this earlier but I really need to check ISOs to flesh out my reasoning, and the site has been running so slowly. I will try to chip away at it over the next couple of hours as I load up quotes.

Unless you just want some barebones/minimal info reads in which I guess I could provide those but I hardly see that as useful
In post 1126, Menalque wrote:
In post 1123, eth0s wrote:I am feeling really apathetic towards this game now. Can we just lynch elements thanks.
Talk to me about elements vs EP va TL bby
same as above to a degree but I can go into this at least based on what I remember.

Elements: I feel pretty good about this one flipping scum. His low content in this game and seemingly strong desire to active lurk and pretend like he is doing something really pings me the wrong way. Normally I might feel a bit hesitant to lynch him since it's common PR play as well, but I'm 99% sure everyone in this game is a PR (unless someone actually submitted items to try and get VT LOL) so that point is pretty moot. Him dodging my questions only adds to the bad vibes.

EP: His recent play is cleaned up a bit, even if it was somewhat forced to occur in the first place. I wouldn't let him off the hook totally -- and I haven't, but like I said before, there is something I am waiting to happen/not happen that is currently preventing me from wanting to go through with a lynch on him at this time. I can't really say more than that without potentially harming the gamestate. I would probably be more inclined to share if we had our PT but that dream is dead :/

TL: I think I've covered this pretty well, no? His townplay is chaotic. His scumplay is likely also chaotic. For how little I care for the current state of the game I could easily fall into a tunnel on him like I have before, but then I'll just get pissed off and end up vote parking him on a potential mislynch. Hence my hammer solution.

Why won't you vote Elements with me?
I’d be interested in the barebones one, esp I’d like to know where you are on mastina atm

I think EP has the best chance of flipping scum, but I still trust you enough that I’m willing to go with you on your thing

I’m willing to do elements based on that

VOTE: elements

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:08 am
by Menalque
Kinda giving me jeebies how elbirn got on it tho

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:22 pm
by jjh927
I really think we should be lynching in EP and TL

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:34 pm
by Elbirn
In post 1161, Menalque wrote:Kinda giving me jeebies how elbirn got on it tho
*fart noise*

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:12 pm
by Adorable
The site keeps loading and I finally managed to log in.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:04 am
by Menalque
In post 1162, jjh927 wrote:I really think we should be lynching in EP and TL
Explain in depth why

What’s your read on eth0s btw?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:07 am
by Menalque
I’m explicitly interested in why EP flipped to your top lynch preference over TL, which is why I asked for in depth

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:47 am
by jjh927
Eth0s is very town. I think there might be a third scum leading us towards Elements and away from TL and EP, but it isn't Eth0s because he's just town

TL is still my top lynch preference but EP is very close. I voted EP because Mastina was voting there

My EP read developed with his response to the case, which was pretty damn bad imo, and then with his response to me responding to that. He effectively pushed a false hypocrisy instead of discussing the PT point in any real depth

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:51 am
by jjh927
I've still had doubts looking back at the 1v1 between them but I guess it would make sense if they were both scum too?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:29 am
by schadd_
VC 1.3
Elements (4):
Adorable, eth0s, Elbirn, Menalque
Elbirn (2):
TiphaineDeath, Elements
EspressoPatronum (2):
mastina, jjh927
jjh927 (1):
TemporalLich

Not voting: Chemist1422, EspressoPatronum

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-06 17:40:00) or when a lynch is reached.

prodding espressopatronum, mastina

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:01 am
by Menalque
Okay, so who do you think is the scum then? Leading away from EP/TL I mean

If eth0s is very town, then why not go with him on his thing with sorting EP later?

What’s your read on ele?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:41 am
by jjh927
I'm not of a mind to just sheep people because they're town

You can talk to me with logic


I think Elements is only gonna be a lynch here because he's lurking and unless someone can tell me that's AI for him then I think it's a mislynch

I don't know who else could be scum. I've had too many townreads at various points in this day so I'm looking to reevaluate some of the weaker ones, of which I guess Elements is one but I don't feel good about lynching there when we have EP and TL

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:40 am
by eth0s
not trying to neglect this game. gave up on the read list yesterday as each quote was taking 3-10 min to load. seems to be running smoothly again now though so that's nice.

still working too much (I finally have a day off tomorrow).
also received some bad family-related news about 30 minutes ago. think I am going to take the rest of the day off.
if you have any specific questions for me (mainly mena but anyone else as well) feel free to ask and I will get to them when I check the site again.

my head's not in a great place to give reads right now. I typed out some barebones ones but there were too many slots that I didn't feel like I could really place them on a town-scum spectrum so I've decided I am not gonna make some half-assed reads when I can give you the real deal tomorrow after I do a bit of digging.

Sorry again for the delay.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:48 am
by TemporalLich
VOTE: Elbirn

Okay at this point if Elbirn isn't scum then I don't think anyone is scum.

Elbirn lied about being a gladiator of all things!

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:19 am
by TiphaineDeath
Ok, I give up. If TL is town then I am just going to quit this game. No one is allowed to have this many scummy posts AND VCA pointing at them and not die.

VOTE: TL