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Ame is doing a super big misrep of mechanics right now; just hear me out

In post 1120, Kanna wrote:If clidd has a gun, it’s clidd. If he doesn’t, it’s ame. If I die, then it’s ???

Like I said, the reasoning behind this is because Luca investigated you yesterday and got *vanilla*. From his flip, we know he was legit. This means you can either be mafia goon or vt. I got an inno which means you are definitely vt. There’s no way for me to inno on scum!you because you cannot be a doctor/there is no loophole for you to be scum unless Luca lied. Ame is totally lying here.

If this doesn’t make sense, let me know and I’ll explain it in a different way cause I’m not great at explaining this stuff

Also her point on my role was completely wrong too; according to the wiki, “Members of the Mafia (that are not Doctors)” + (several town roles) have guns. Ico would have had a gun. Ame doesn’t. She’s basically a godfather to me which is why her role is good.

If Luca investigates her, he’ll get *doctor* + no alignment so a doctor fakeclaim would work really well too. I think after all the power roles got outed D2 and Luca pretended he was one shot, Ame changed her claim to VT because there were too many PRs.

She killed him after he gave another result because he would then be the only person to be able to catch her out on her lie.

As in* he’s not a 1 shot rolecop, but a FULL rolecop

Everything literally makes sense from scumdoc!ame perspective

And even the setup; since encryptor is kind of a weak role, they would need something strong to balance it out so the second is a GODFATHER

Going to be away for a few hours again, regardless of what happens, let’s have a civil/chill lylo?

I’ll bring up some points against Ame when I come back, clidd, if any of this is wordsalad please let me know because this honestly makes perfect sense to me but I’m not sure how this is coming across

Hum, don't worry, we have time.

In post 1152, Kanna wrote:Also her point on my role was completely wrong too; according to the wiki, “Members of the Mafia (that are not Doctors)” + (several town roles) have guns. Ico would have had a gun. Ame doesn’t. She’s basically a godfather to me which is why her role is good.

This I didn't know. If Encrypter shows up with a gun, then I agree that point is invalid.

That being said, you're cherry-picking and have not addressed the holes in your play that you've consistently danced around the entire game:

-your pseudo-investigative mindset
-your theatric claim

And additionally your TMI on Hectic. Luca having a vanilla on Clidd should not have led to the conclusion that Hectic was town for you.
And additionally you sill wouldn't have come into today voting as you did. You would have at least allowed me to make a statement in case there was something you missed. You're not coming at this from a town figure-out-the game angle.

Side note: I actually missed Luca's claim that Clidd was vanilla until the next day when you pointed it out. There wouldn't have been a reason for me to kill him and I was surprised he was killed over Slaxx because he was a potential suspect. I think you're the only one that actually caught on that he wasn't 1-shot?

I like how both the town slots on my long read list ended up being scum. I do think I'm starting to get a better idea of how to read people here though. Also on the bright side, my true/false tell has proven yet again to be accurate: both players who answered false turned out to be town, and it's within the same proportion that I predicted. Also Kanna answer if 7 is consistent with what I expect from the 0-10 question. Although Ico answered in an ideal townie fashion... Still I think I'll be able to use these again with a unique set of players in the future.

@Clidd I'll work on the town case when I get back home

No problem.

Do you like or dislike being in this position?

It is part of the game. Particularly, it seems more comfortable because I can read without having to type.

Actually, maybe I'll hammer Ame here.

Why?

Emotional read. The logical part you still beat Kanna.

Where does the emotion stem from?

My perception. I will wait for Kanna.

In post 1159, Kanna wrote:I’ll bring up some points against Ame when I come back, clidd, if any of this is wordsalad please let me know because this honestly makes perfect sense to me but I’m not sure how this is coming across

This.

Waiting to see what she has to say.

Your emotional reads have been shown to be incorrect many times:

-Your read on hectics misspell during the debate between he and I in Boons game
-Your interpretation of what I meant when I said experience is irrelevant
-Your read on Ico's genuineness regarding his read on you

Go with the logic here. It's different in forum format than playing live or in quick chat like epic mafia because it's easy to fake tones using certain phrases, grammar, language. And it's also easy to misinterpret different tones. This is especially the case because of our language barrier. Kanna's spew of posts there was specifically tailored to induce and emotion read. Same as Ico did. It's not difficult to fake genuineness and I think that's where you've been getting caught up.

If you can expand on your perception I may be able to help walk through where the error is coming from.