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[insomnia]

Wolfy vote

[NorwegianboyEE]

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[Kirari Momobami]

No it's not lol

What's your reads of fonz/aaron/elsa somni?

[VaultDweller]

I'm here, but lol if you expect me to catch up.

Also

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

[insomnia]

No it's not lol

What's your reads of fonz/aaron/elsa somni?

Haven’t read any of their posts except for fonz and he good

[Kirari Momobami]

You haven't read any of aaron's posts? I thought you two had like meta or something

[Dolly Parton]

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

[insomnia]

I’ll let you know if something pings me about him. Maybe if this was a 9er or something I’d single him out.

[Amrun]

not even saying I scumread you.

I’d currently lynch you over TSE

Well, that escalated quickly.

I mean look, you feel bad and it sucks. I know. But coming in here and going "oh hey I don't scum read TSE but ima vote him anways" isn't exactly pro-town. Or did you think folks should be town reading you for it?

Why exactly was it important to vote park TSE?

Any read I have right now is far too premature to call a scumread. I wouldn’t consider myself to be scumreading either of you, but I’m more interested in your alignment than his.

Your other question is just ????

Because I want to achieve a lynch and you are severely underplaying how extremely difficult that will be to do.

[Amrun]

Kirari, is Drixx's real time posting slightly out of his scum range?

Not really, he's definitely posting more independently than he did in AvT but I haven't seen him separate from Cerb that often. Do you think he is outside his scumrange? What games are you thinking of?

There are some old scum games of his from like 2017 that suggest his scum style is to take the time to come up with a lot of fake analysis but to not post very often. His posts in AvT seem to fall into that general profile too. I wouldn't say completely outside his scumrange, but I think he's more town than not.

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Amrun, what are your thoughts on Kirari and Drixx?

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TSE, why are you voting Elsa and sheeping your scumread (Nero)?

Is Kirari Krazy? Seems like Krazy.

I think it’s an empty argument. They’re both arguing about some dumb shit. Drixx is acting like it’s impossible to have a gut read, and Kirari kind of fluffing up gut reads.

I don’t know Drixx very well, but from my experience, he is very logical and probably does not do gut reads very often. Still, he should recognize that others do.

Kirari, if Krazy, is closer to town meta if so but not definitive based on what I’ve read so far.

[Amrun]

So in other words, gun to my head I’d say TvT.

It could be TvS or different scum vs different scum but I don’t think they’re scum together.

[insomnia]

Amrun still scum

Hi amrun

[Egix96]

Is Kirari Krazy? Seems like Krazy.

I think it’s an empty argument. They’re both arguing about some dumb shit. Drixx is acting like it’s impossible to have a gut read, and Kirari kind of fluffing up gut reads.

I don’t know Drixx very well, but from my experience, he is very logical and probably does not do gut reads very often. Still, he should recognize that others do.

Kirari, if Krazy, is closer to town meta if so but not definitive based on what I’ve read so far.

So in other words, gun to my head I’d say TvT.

It could be TvS or different scum vs different scum but I don’t think they’re scum together.

This is a similar impression to what I got yeah.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

No it's not lol

What's your reads of fonz/aaron/elsa somni?

I’ll look at them after work.

Haven’t read any of their posts except for fonz and he good

I'm here, but lol if you expect me to catch up.

Also

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

I’m Famoud!

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

Aren’t you already voting me

[TrueSoulEnergy]

*accedently put it inside quote
Famous*

[Hectic]

Reads list:

Town:

DrDolittle - Top top doctor
Kirari Momobami - Quality anime detective
Uncrowned - Never lied in his life
Chemist1422 - I can just tell by tone
Elsa Jay - She's no goddamn Bambi (meta)
Nero Cain - He'll be dead by tomorrow
BBMolla - Exudes honesty
Drixx - Standup guy
Dolly Parton - Mindmelding with reads
Garmr - Genuine frustration
UltimatePlank - Differs from scum-meta
kagesong - Town for emotions
NorwegianboyEE - I'm scumreading him which means he's town
Hectic - Haven't checked my role PM but from play, probably town
Pine - He always lurks as town
pisskop - Sole miller claim. Looking forward to his one read
Jamelia - Can't remember anything dodgy
Almost50 - He's doing his weird town thing
bob3141 - More thoughts than questions which is generally town-indicative for him
davesaz - Inquisitive and suspicious of others

Hmm:

Not Known 15 - Seen good and bad from him
Rhinox - I like this guy but I saw a scummy push
Cat Scratch Fever - Towny vibes but she refused to claim masons with me
QuantumQuasar - Liked his progression on Nero but not on TrueSoulEnergy
insomnia - Lots of scum hunting, but he can be BoPed after some flips
TrueSoulEnergy - Dead man walking. Technically suboptimal to lynch, but Amrun is right that finding another 26p wagon would be impossible
EeveeLution Army - Seems okay, gutread
dsjstr - Doro isn't angry enough yet
SausasaurusRex - He's less transparent than I'm used to
The Fonz - Good posts but feels like he has ulterior motives
profii - Bland so far, nothing sticks out
Non Imh - Coasting but it's kinda NAI

Scum:

eth0s - He knows why
Jackal711 - Voting patterns
Black Ranger - Comes across as opportunistic
Amrun - She's doing her scum thing where her posts are more appeasey
Golden Robster - I don't know how to read this person. Gut scum
tictac - Great guy but also scum for weird angles/focal points. I'd lynch them last.
Emperor FlippyNips - Not enough GiFs, as town he's more carefree
NotAJumbleOfNumbers - He hates posting as scum
Egix96 - I know his scummeta inside out, I'll know he's town if he actually is
AaronFrost - He's not normal scum but I'm getting third party-vibes from the effort, he wants to stay around. Serial killer?
Something_Smart - Defending TrueSoulEnergy for mechanics but not pushing people an alternate wagon, or asking people to unvote
hershoar - Not impressed at all
98mubarik - I know this guy well and this is his scum meta
clidd - No analysis or walls, lurking scum
gobbledygook - Calling pisskop's Miller claim scum is fake
VaultDweller - So ungenuine
Yiley - No WIM, and extremely scummy few posts
Pink Ball - BoPing this guy, even if he gets mod confirmed as an IC, he's never breaking out of my bottom 5

[gobbledygook]

What is fake about me calling Pisskop’s Miller claim scum?

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VOTE: Dolly Parton

[Hectic]

What is fake about me calling Pisskop’s Miller claim scum?

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VOTE: Dolly Parton

Why is the sole Miller claim in-thread confirmed scum?

[Drixx]

A blind squirrel that accidentally found a computer loaded to MS could have caught my teammates that game.

tfw you pushed approximately 0 of the scum that game

Apparently you checked out of the game when you got mislynched. AF and I pushed one another, and he was scum.

So ... do I push you on LAL grounds now?

[Drixx]

In general, I have felt for years that posting lists of every player in the game is useless for town, and more something scum do to look town. I find it much more town to just talk about 2-3 of your strongest reads at a time.

Okay

So, why are you not voting Drixx, who thinks it's productive to give detailed reads on 17 players in the game when I don't have 17 scumreads?

Because I side with Drixx in your argument. Basically, he's saying you don't actually have reads on everyone you've stated a read on, and in asking you to provide justifications he's actively expecting you not to be able to.
The reason he thinks this is because he thinks your reads are fake, and you don't actually have them - you're just claiming you do to fake the appearance of scumhunting.

Ding ding we have a winner. And every time KM makes another post calling me a toddler, it just cements my belief that I exposed them and they think the only way to react is to get toxic and start hurling insults.

[Drixx]

Could someone just like, go ahead and site ban me? not that I deserve it per se, outside of maybe this post. But I keep trying to use Mafia as an escape from real world problems, and then not being able to play because of my real world depression/anger/seizures/brain/beingashittypersonandnotdeservinganyreprieve and then having to replace. So, like, can we just make it not possible for me, so I don't have to trap myself into the hurt of trying to play again. Not that it matters if I manage to get in the car tomorrow. Time will tell.

Don't. Clearly you get positive things out of this place and the people you have formed bonds with here. Don't cut positive out of your life because you're going through a tough time. That's the exact time to add more positive in.

[Wake1]

Seeking replacements for TrueSoulEnergy and Kagesong.

[Wake1]

Titus replaces TrueSoulEnergy.

[Drixx]

One can do an asinine "The wheel says..." as any alignment. The fact that X and Y did it as town in some game doesn't mean that Z doing it this game is town. You're good enough to know that, so the fact that you're pushing that nonsense is troubling.

The problem with KM was the very close follow up presenting "actual" reads at a point when they weren't plausible to the game state. That was enough to get me to poke them. Their reaction to being poked was bad and just got worse until they abandoned the thread.

I'm not pushing anything; I just wanted more of an explanation, which is exactly what I got, so thank you.

What specifically was bad about their reaction to being poked?

17 sentences isn't too much to ask, and someone who is town AND wants to inform the game state with reads should want other townies to be able to understand what about the few posts led to the specific reads presented. Like ... town play wants others evaluating their reads and reasoning for them.

This is why I tend to talk about only one or two things at a time, and I give my reasoning. I want people to interact with what I'm thinking. That acts as a check and helps keep me grounded, and also gives me insight into how the people who interact with me are thinking.

KM has just refused to give any thinking and reasoning whatsoever, and just continues to shotgun insults at me and ask OTHER PEOPLE to talk about me. That just isn't showing any town motivation at all. Even if KM were town and actually thought I was scum ... it would be worthwhile to get that reasoning out there and engage me to reciprocate. The only plausible motive to absolutely refuse to explain any thought process/reasoning (especially when the responses include assertions that it shouldn't be too much work) is because they're fake and making up "reasoning" for them is way riskier than just constantly attacking me and hoping I'll reciprocate and then there's a toxic argument people just don't read.

Like ... scum trying to make a 1v1 toxic so people just check out mentally has been common on this site since I joined and probably long before that. I'm certain you've seen quite a lot of it since you run so many games.

[Drixx]

Titus replaces TrueSoulEnergy.

Oof. Shit luck for you Titus. Your slot isn't redeemable I don't think.