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Auro where are your reads currently at

From my mind:

{Comical}
{OkaPoka, Luna}
{Penguin, Dannfloor}
{Clidd}
--Null--
{RCEnigma, Eddie Cane}
{Alchemist, iDanyBoi}

Purely individual equities and I don't think all scum are below the null line, still waiting to complete engagement on some slots etc. -> Alchemist and Comical are both strong reads.

Nothing about Auro’s reaction to my push on him has made me feel better about him.

Where/when did I suddenly jump to towny for people? Specifically you Auro?

I'm not ignoring your question by the way, I'm just back to genuinely unsure of what to think of you right now and trying to figure that out first.

Also, I'd be interested in your clidd read.

In post 843, Dannflor wrote:I think Auro is more likely to be town now, for the record.

Not like your ISO is that big - so?
Luna Fox read drops.
Clidd read outdated.

Oh you mean you being towny for me - note that you're not a strong tier of townread. You get weak townread merely from recognising me being town, I could totes be wrong about you given your relative lack of engagement with the game.

In post 1154, Alchemist21 wrote:Nothing about Auro’s reaction to my push on him has made me feel better about him.

Well, my reaction to your push was a tunnel on you I'm not really moving off of, which seems like an approved method of scumhunting from you, so

It's mildly frustrating that Comical didn't check me last night - considering Boon himself gets paranoid of me a lot, and I seem to get pushed on bad reasoning merely because I have more content and it's easier to find reasons to scumread me (woo, WF all over again!). Sigh.

In post 772, Alchemist21 wrote:If it really was just because you don't have much experience with FB, then fine I'm wrong.

So your initial premise is defeated (feel free to verify my lack of major experience with Fire): can you explain your scumread on me now?

I had Auro as lock town very early in WF. I think he is scum here.

if auro is scum and is trying to buddy me ill just sit here and do nothing

In post 1161, Auro wrote:

In post 772, Alchemist21 wrote:If it really was just because you don't have much experience with FB, then fine I'm wrong.

So your initial premise is defeated (feel free to verify my lack of major experience with Fire): can you explain your scumread on me now?

Your discussion with me and push on me feels like you just want me to stop scumreading you and not like you actually tried to sort me. You fluffed up our discussion with questions that weren’t really relevant and with everyone scumreading you, not just me, you put a lot of focus into trying to invalidate the reasons people are scumreading you.

And by the way my initial premise isn’t defeated because the important parts don’t require you to have experience with Firebringer. What you quoted is just my admission that I could be wrong and you’re telling the truth but I have yet to see posts from you that show me that you’re approaching this situation with a Town mindset rather than a scum one.

In post 1162, Eddie Cane wrote:I had Auro as lock town very early in WF. I think he is scum here.

Okay - is this a serious read?
Would you BoP yourself on this read?
Explain your process of reading me.

In post 1163, OkaPoka wrote:if auro is scum and is trying to buddy me ill just sit here and do nothing

I'm scum... listing you as a townread is "buddying" you?
This is lazy play, OkaPoka. A lot of people seem to be sitting here doing nothing; I expected more from this playerlist.

In post 1164, Alchemist21 wrote: Your discussion with me and push on me feels like you just want me to stop scumreading you and not like you actually tried to sort me. You fluffed up our discussion with questions that weren’t really relevant and with everyone scumreading you, not just me,

you put a lot of focus into trying to invalidate the reasons people are scumreading you

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And by the way my initial premise isn’t defeated because the important parts don’t require you to have experience with Firebringer. What you quoted is just my admission that I could be wrong and you’re telling the truth but I have yet to see posts from you that show me that you’re approaching this situation with a Town mindset rather than a scum one.

Spoilered is a collection of quotes from different people regarding my play from a specific game. Guess my alignment.
Then, think about whether the behaviour in question (my "self-defense") is different from that game.
Yes, I do focus on debating reasons people scumread me for. I search for legitimacy in their pushes. I use that to decide if the person is making stuff up, or is honestly scumreading me. Additionally, I reason with them to move off me so they can follow me on my own scumreads.
This is my town mindset and I've established that in previous games - do you believe it's anti-town? If so, we can have a discussion about that.
Otherwise, this specific behaviour is NAI; I look forward to your re-evaluation. Otherwise, answer this - how do you differentiate between town!Auro trying to sort a made-up read by debating it, versus scum!Auro trying to get people off, etc?
Which question(s) of mine specifically were irrelevant? I can easily show you how every answer of yours helped in the sorting process.

I would propose that unless you have strong reasons for scumreading me, I'm a bad lynch this game almost exclusively because I'm being active and engaging.
I happily encourage cop checks on me tonight.
No, this is not a case of "scum who's trying to delay their lynch and wants to prevent the cops from figuring out their partners".

Ok Auro. Those WF quotes are enough for me to give you some breathing room here.

UNVOTE: Auro

Huh, wasn't expecting that.
Thoughts on Dann, Luna?

In post 1165, Auro wrote:Okay - is this a serious read?
Would you BoP yourself on this read?
Explain your process of reading me.

That I think you're scum? Mildly
No.
In WF, I (via Dann) spoke up to defend you early day 1 and throughout the game. I felt strongly you were town, even when you had a 3 town wagon. This game, I have not got any town pings from your content.

What gave you town pings in that game?

You felt town. Don't have more than that, sorry.

So I just don't "feel" town, and it's a mild read.
You don't have *any* stronger scumreads this game?
Why is it not a better idea to have a cop check me tonight?

Correct.
Correct. I think this has been an incredibly uninteresting game, and I have very few town as well.
Because the mafia could be doctors, you seem to very strongly want to be checked which indicates you'd be a doctor, and these are weak questions.

In post 1152, Auro wrote:{Comical}
{OkaPoka, Luna}
{Penguin, Dannfloor}
{Clidd}
--Null--
{RCEnigma, Eddie Cane}
{Alchemist, iDanyBoi}

Also, I think having Comical as the townier of the gunsmiths is absurd. Especially with him being your top town and RCE being a scum lean.