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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:11 pm
by BBmolla
In post 1121, gobbledygook wrote:Talk to me on Mastina? Is your read still based on her opening salvo of posts?
literally everything they post reads as "haha! I am mastina great mastermind!" and their reads are made up nonsense

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:14 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 886, RadiantCowbells wrote:not naming names

but someone

told everyone in christmas to not play the game and to just chill while halloween played

so no one really did anything in christmas...
I wonder what sort of game plan jjh would be instating actually. jjh is a player that I recall being severely dangerous as scum, I recall he carried a seemingly lost game. So his scum buddy would likely have to be someone he rates lowly on the skill ladder if he's trying to push the focus off of his game. So I think I just talked myself out of the idea of mastina and jjh being scum together.

By the way, this is a random tangent, but I will very likely never oppose a DDL wagon because he played an extremely scummy game in the canceled 50 player large normal but was town. So I rate his town capabilities very low.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:15 pm
by BBmolla
the fact that no one wants to vote DDL besides a couple of us is suspect as fuck imo

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:17 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 899, Bernadetta wrote:
In post 659, RadiantCowbells wrote:I retract my Baezu townread I think. Sorry Baezu :(
is what I meant to quote.

Meme god is on my side today.
Why is this bad? As I said, Baezu is playing a very scummy lowkey game as I see it.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:24 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 929, SirCakez wrote:
In post 841, BBmolla wrote:
In post 514, SirCakez wrote:Ftr I think Elmo is still the scummiest player in the game
I don't but maybe it's just cause they were really nice to me and I'm lonely from the plague
Don't fall for Elmo's AtE!
In post 845, DrDolittle wrote:oh i am not a wiener. where should i go on as a xmas guy
In post 846, DrDolittle wrote:18 players is very disorienting for me
THIS IS SCUM
In post 879, gobbledygook wrote:I thought Cakez was townie early game plus his crumb to me felt townish. I could see it being scum because of how overt it was though
I didn't crumb anything?????
In post 883, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am not 100% sure on any of this

but it seems like Christmas starting townblock is something like

Bbmolla, Gobbles, NSG
I like it.
You know, I could see a jjh/DDL scumteam. I think DDL fits the brand of those whom jjh would likely poorly rate the scumgames of.
Can we please mobilize the troops in Christmas?

Pretty funny how I said I would ignore that game and now I'm focusing on it.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:32 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 979, gobbledygook wrote:RC if you give a mouse a cookie he’s gonna want milk
In post 980, SirCakez wrote:what a revelation
I am with SirCakez here.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:39 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 1010, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 800, northsidegal wrote:i made you an avatar lie ren

Image
Well that wasn't what I expected. If that's what I think it's supposed to mean you actually figured out who I am already. Might as well just say it, this is Gamma Emerald. I wanted to see how I played as an alt if I embraced the tendency to not do as much in alt games. In addition I mentioned wanting to play a way I normally don't, that's in reference to my experience in Perfect Masquerade, where I enjoyed playing as a hidden alt in that game, as well as writing posts in a more "proper" manner compared to what I normally do.

Now although I did enjoy that jape, I must kindly refuse that avatar because I would like to have one of the character this alt is named after. I'll continue skimming to see if one was posted in the thread, and if not I'll find one myself because I'm on a device where I can do that rather seamlessly right now.
I noticed gobbledygook gave me flak for this post. I really don't get why me deciding to out my alt on a whim would be a scum thing. If one person knows after the bare amount of posting I did, it's very likely to be completely obvious. Plus I was having to repress my urge to use meta like I tend to do, and so it was nice to have a reason to stop worrying about that.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:40 pm
by Baezu
In post 1138, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 851, Baezu wrote:
In post 799, RadiantCowbells wrote:I tentatively townread Lie Ren!
Hey something we agree on
Okay then. I would like if you talked about your read evolution on me. I recall your read on me has been approximately the same as RC's, at least in terms of when you express them.
Ima get back to you on this tomorrow...sleepy atm

I agree with your analysis of DDL and jjh though

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:42 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 1024, BBmolla wrote:Seriously Christmas get the fuck in here I can't do anything if its just me and Gobbles posting fuck
I agree with those calling BBMolla town for his efforts.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:44 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 1025, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1014, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 365, gobbledygook wrote:With amount of people townreading me I feel like people are just setting me up to die n1 and feels bad man
Has that happened a lot recently? Before I left I didn't recall you being an exceptional player, did you become more of a strong town presence after I left?
My read accuracy is still the same. Scum just can’t power lynch me anymore

Re: buddies comment - do you think the two scum from the other game are just going to let their teammates die in the opposite game? That seems like a bad idea if true.
Yeah, I realize my view on the scum interaction situation was way off base now.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:50 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 1054, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 254, Jormengand wrote:
In post 253, Trojan Horses wrote:I'm curious about Jormengand's profile picture. Is it a specific reference to something, or something guessable?
It's not a reference. It is guessable what it
is
but it's not a
reference
to anything specific. Apart from a fun fact about me, I guess.

[line][/line]

Anyway, back on the game: I have no ideas, other than "I have no idea where anyone's getting their reads from so that's weird, huh."
In post 609, Jormengand wrote:Oh yeah, wagon me while I'm asleep, that's great. Don't worry, I'm used to dying early on both sides so I guess I'll just readslist and hope that I make sense. These aren't in any particular order 'cause I just grabbed them up at random:

SirCakez - I can understand the poke vote on me from town PoV, so that's fair. I don't... get the read on Elmo? So I'm kinda wondering on Cakez's reasoning there but honestly overall seems NAI.
Trojan - seems to be actually trying to to gamesolve so Imma say probably town, especially with the amount of detail they're going into.
We Are Not Helping - is not helping. A large amount of their ISO is just memeing, and while Trojan was also memeing a little and going on about my avatar, Trojan was also actually doing work. Over a hundred posts in, WANH has posted meaningful content in a tiny minority of them, which to me comes off as slightly scummy.
Baezu - I don't like the thing of posting reads without actually explaining those reads. While I don't want to OMGUS, especially not on a read, sheeping someone who said that it was suspicious to know that something was "Random nonsense" between reading it and properly analyzing it (???) seems like a bit of a weak sheep, and the rest of the reads aren't explained at all.
Bernadetta - Doesn't seem to be... actually doing much? Literally just meming around instead of playing, which isn't very towny from my experience.
FireMaPoka - does this player even have any posts? I don't think so, or at least I can't find them (PEDIT: Hey, I found out how to do ISOs without having to find an actual post by the player. Yeah, user has no posts.)
Lie Ren - As above, so below.
Shuichi - Not much to tell from the first three posts. I know as well as everyone that not reading anyone until you've had some time to think and sleep isn't a scumtell.

So on this side of the game, I'd like to see more analysis from most of the players,
especially
the ones who are scumreading players for no reason other than not having posted analysis yet (give us a chance, some of us are ill and/or multitasking. Also I prefer to wait until I have more to work with) - if you
have
got a scumread on someone, then you should have at least some reasoning to explain; if you
have
got the energy for a hundred and one posts, then post something useful. If someone doesn't have reads, I think they should get a chance to make some. I can tell you now that scumreading people just because they were slightly late to the party isn't helpful.

(Also, I don't always have the energy to do things, and seeing how much energy I put in earlygame be brought up as a tell is really disheartening. It's a longform game, I'll get around to my reads eventually.)
The gap from here to here really feels like

Scum told him he needs to give reads so he gave reads
Seems like Jormengand still isn't posting so I'll go into the thing that most concerns me regarding the idea of him being scum: the FireMaPoka mistake feels way too genuine. I made a similar mistake regarding trying to sort a non-player (funnily enough it was Firebringer) and I just see parallels to my past self there. The RC blooper is strange but I already stated I don't think it's scum indicative.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:54 pm
by BBmolla
VOTE: DDL

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:55 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 1099, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 621, We are not helping wrote:I just realized that Jormengand forgot to write about RC in his reads list and now I'm certain that we should burn that slot.

-bitmap
I honestly want to see how he handles having doubled up on WANH reads. Forgetting about RC is weird but I don't see scum motivation in it as of now.
Like I was expecting at least a mild freak-out when he noticed that. So getting nothing at all is a bit of a shame. And the proof is in the pudding, I stated my thoughts on the RC blooper right here.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:59 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 1118, Baezu wrote:
In post 1116, RadiantCowbells wrote:Lie could be nontown
Why you say dis?
Oh hey scratch my initial idea on Baezu sheeping RC on me. Still think he is playing a subtle scumgame though.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:03 pm
by Lie Ren
In post 1121, gobbledygook wrote:I vibe with the Lie Ren scumreads. I am curious why he revealed his main after NSG subtly outted him.
I also feel like NSG knows everything.
Yeah I have to ask what the heck was going on here, I don't think anyone really called me scum up to here. And NSG did not out me "subtly", at least not as I saw it. I'm an Earthbound fan so I know what the Greek letter for Gamma is. That was a glaring indication she knew who I was. Lastly, what in Remnant does NSG knowing everything have to do with my alignment?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:05 pm
by Lie Ren
I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now.
VOTE: Baezu
Already detailed this.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:10 pm
by Lie Ren
It's great to be caught up with the game, isn't it folks?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:14 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 1160, Lie Ren wrote:the FireMaPoka mistake feels way too genuine
Why can't this be genuine and from scum at the same time?

I'm kind of surprised we have strong reads on ddl. I was waiting for him to do more.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:15 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 1165, Lie Ren wrote:I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now
Can I get some details here?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:38 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 1168, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1165, Lie Ren wrote:I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now
Can I get some details here?
I'm also interested in this. I'm clearly not taking this game super seriously... I am doing some amount of solving though but I'm curious to hear about what you mean by "serious work".

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:48 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 1048, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1033, Trojan Horses wrote:I think I can comfortably sheep Gob actually.
Gob, you get to dictate my vote for today!
You keep saying you have reads and stances. What's making you uncomfortable about owning them?

If you're feeling unconfident, you also have two other heads who you could bounce ideas off whose alignments you should be more sure of than Gobbles.
So I find this weird, because I really didn't think I was coming off as super serious. Especially considering that I showed confidence in my reads before this and defended them as well.
Gob's attack on this is also -yawn- obviously but whatevz since he's town. Why assume that my proposed leashing is a result of great critical thought in thread (which I agree isn't there :P heehh) versus potential great solves (likely if town and Gob's town)?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:48 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 1156, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 1010, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 800, northsidegal wrote:i made you an avatar lie ren

Image
Well that wasn't what I expected. If that's what I think it's supposed to mean you actually figured out who I am already. Might as well just say it, this is Gamma Emerald. I wanted to see how I played as an alt if I embraced the tendency to not do as much in alt games. In addition I mentioned wanting to play a way I normally don't, that's in reference to my experience in Perfect Masquerade, where I enjoyed playing as a hidden alt in that game, as well as writing posts in a more "proper" manner compared to what I normally do.

Now although I did enjoy that jape, I must kindly refuse that avatar because I would like to have one of the character this alt is named after. I'll continue skimming to see if one was posted in the thread, and if not I'll find one myself because I'm on a device where I can do that rather seamlessly right now.
I noticed gobbledygook gave me flak for this post. I really don't get why me deciding to out my alt on a whim would be a scum thing. If one person knows after the bare amount of posting I did, it's very likely to be completely obvious. Plus I was having to repress my urge to use meta like I tend to do, and so it was nice to have a reason to stop worrying about that.
I was tl you before I knew that but that read is strengthened by knowing this.

~N

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:54 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 104, DrDolittle wrote:im excited to be able to sheep illustrious players like gobbles and baezu this game
Ew

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:55 pm
by Trojan Horses
VOTE: DDL

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:00 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 1172, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 104, DrDolittle wrote:im excited to be able to sheep illustrious players like gobbles and baezu this game
Ew
yo which head is this