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In post 1149, Andresvmb wrote:VOTE: plusJOYED

I’ll place my vote here while I wait for confirmation on the Claim.

hmmm ... that makes 2 votes on me now, with 4 needed to hammer?
I think I'll try this
Assuming a scum casts the final vote (Bella or notscience in my eyes still), with 2 possible night actions a 1 for 1 trade is good here I think
UNVOTE: bellaphant
VOTE: plusJoyed

Going to bed.
Someone else explain why it's antitown to self-vote.
Well, actually a 1 for 1 trade wouldn't be bad.

In post 1149, Andresvmb wrote:I’ll place my vote here while I wait for confirmation on the Claim.

Have access for a bit. Andres, why do I feel like you have voted for a lot of different people or something? Why would you put your vote here.

In post 1150, PlusJOYED wrote:hmmm ... that makes 2 votes on me now, with 4 needed to hammer?
I think I'll try this
Assuming a scum casts the final vote (Bella or notscience in my eyes still), with 2 possible night actions a 1 for 1 trade is good here I think
UNVOTE: bellaphant
VOTE: plusJoyed

What are you doing PlusJoy? Unvote if you are town now. Doing this isn't helping our wincon. If you know you are town, wasting an elimination on you doesn't help.

Voting for yourself is anti town - we don't want to mislim here, because tomorrow is probably LimLo. There are 2 scum and 5 town in the game now. When we lim you, it will become 2v3 (assuming the nightkill happens).

In post 1128, The Bulge wrote:mason claims are designed to be pointless in most setups no, that was a scum claim

What?! Bulge are you claiming scum with Bella? Are you claiming Neighbour? I have no idea what's happened to Bulge here

IMO I might put Bella back at E-1, still feeling scum on this slot I guess. Where is your claim Bella? Are Bulge / Bella claiming a pair of masons? I'm confused about the whole Bella / Bulge thing, and i don't understand why bulge would TR Bella.

EBWOP (didn't put the vote): VOTE: Bellaphant E-1. Claim as soon as possible please.

In post 1154, shellyc wrote:

In post 1150, PlusJOYED wrote:hmmm ... that makes 2 votes on me now, with 4 needed to hammer?
I think I'll try this
Assuming a scum casts the final vote (Bella or notscience in my eyes still), with 2 possible night actions a 1 for 1 trade is good here I think
UNVOTE: bellaphant
VOTE: plusJoyed

What are you doing PlusJoy? Unvote if you are town now. Doing this isn't helping our wincon. If you know you are town, wasting an elimination on you doesn't help.

Voting for yourself is anti town - we don't want to mislim here, because tomorrow is probably LimLo. There are 2 scum and 5 town in the game now. When we lim you, it will become 2v3 (assuming the nightkill happens).[/quote

I'm aware of this, and know it's usually anti town but this is a special scenario. My thought was that since I think Bell and Andres are town, whoever would hammer me now without letting me claim would most definitely be scum and wanted to bait them for an easy elim during limLo assuming we get a NK, and I think town can win during 1 maf 2 town limLo scenario. Though since Bell unvoted there isn't much point now.

UNVOTE: plusjoyed

In post 1147, Andresvmb wrote:@The Bulge can you clarify if you’ve claimed Neighbor please?

lol. I was joking

I'm having a hard time reading joyed as well. the self-awareness makes me see wifom around every corner. would town openly and unabashedly flood peoples' reads with confusing new information and odd gambits? but it could all easily be playstyle. I don't want to elim there today, this is for sure.

I'm not, he's kind of too crazy to be scum.

Er, Is bellaphant coming back.

Probably going to be my only check-in for today I guess. IMO PlusJoy's self vote looks geniunely like a town trying to bait scum. Right now I TR PlusJoy a bit, NS a bit, and Bell a lot.

I am not sure what to make of the bulge slot. They have been hard to read and I have no idea what the mason claim was.

Bella is gone I guess. They could be PR though, since they still haven't claimed. Still scumreading the slot.

Andres is a huge nullread to me, maybe a slight scumlean. Some of their posts look like they might have been posted from a townie mindset, but I'm still having wary thoughts about this slot.

If Bella flips red I think Bella / Bulge scumteam is most likely. #1068 states "Bulge is town"...

I think both Bellaphant and Andre would be really helpful eliminations for me to get my head around the game better.

In post 1164, Bell wrote:I think both Bellaphant and Andre would be really helpful eliminations for me to get my head around the game better.

How would their elims help from your perspective? would like to hear an explanation

I find it really difficult to believe that they're both town.
We have Bulge Pushing Andre, while defending Bellaphant (the only player doing this)
We have the wagon movements from day 1 on and off of andre.

And we have you two, both suspecting Andre and Bellaphant but leaning bellaphant I think?

I think it helps put the game together further.

I'd be suprised if a scum bella would openly would openly townread a scum andres. Agree with Bell that Bella lynch would be good for figuring out the game. Not gonna hammer bella just yet ofc though since bella hasn't declared v/la I am going ask that the mod prod them now @beeboy

Yeah, I would not like to find out that she was a PR and could have cleared herself but forgot to claim.

I think either would be good. I lean andres more TBH, just because I'm a contrarian.

I'm having a hard time reading joyed as well. the self-awareness makes me see wifom around every corner. would town openly and unabashedly flood peoples' reads with confusing new information and odd gambits? but it could all easily be playstyle. I don't want to elim there today, this is for sure.

Yeah this makes sense; they definitely seem more self-aware then they let on; what townie adds so much confusing info? Then again, a scum with such a low sense of self-preservation seems doubtful too. I honestly agree that's he's pretty hard to read. They also stated here that they don't care how scummy they look:

I'd also like to add that I do not care much at all how scummy I look, and have little regard for my own life, as long as the scumhunt is bountiful. This is how I am choosing to play my role.

which directly contradicts how they just agreed with Bulges analysis of themselves being self-aware. Imo if bella flips town and they survive night 2 we should wagon them to force a claim out of them.

That is one confusing poast.

Don't be, that post was a joke making fun of myself

Oh I know it's a joke.
It's just I'm trying to get inside your head and the door's locked.