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[MagikHorse]

good game scum. Italiano and Magik distanced very well and Casey's opening actually read very town to me.

sad I got limmed d1 but scum definitely deserved to win this

looking forward to scum PT. Did you deliberately strategise the distancing?

Not even remotely. The most "planned distancing" there was was a single question from Italiano asking me if it would make sense to attack me for attacking him, and I simply responded with "do what feels right to you". All of this, at least from my end, was authentic.

[Nahdia]

ignoring the fact that you have a partner is a perfectly valid strategy imo. it can work to great effect, like it did in this game, but there's a big risk involved too. players tend to think their partners are a lot more obvious when they

know

their alignment (this also happens in spoiled dead threads: it's called Graveyard Vision). blocking that out is difficult for many people. and if you're really not going to put any stock in the fact that you have a partner, you risk setting yourself up to buss them when it's not optimal to do so.

[ItalianoVD]

I hate deceiving and lying so my play as scum is always to try to be as honest as possible. I try not to say “player X is scum”, but “player X is acting scummy and in my lynch pool” I feel extremely bad doing this and the main reason why I don’t like playing scum. When I said “If I’m town” I was a subconsciously stretching the truth as much as possible without actually lying, it was Fred who caught it. When Frogster did his analysis of the night kill in 732 and he pointed to me as the possible killer of Mush the only thing I said was his analysis was wrong; I was alluding to the

reason

he said I killed Mush; it actually wasn’t the reason and that’s why I didn’t say “I’m not scum”, but “Your analysis is wrong.”

Lol, now that I’ve given up the tells I’ll always be caught as scum now, especially if I have any of you in the playerlist.

[MagikHorse]

ignoring the fact that you have a partner is a perfectly valid strategy imo. it can work to great effect, like it did in this game, but there's a big risk involved too. players tend to think their partners are a lot more obvious when they

know

their alignment (this also happens in spoiled dead threads: it's called Graveyard Vision). blocking that out is difficult for many people. and if you're really not going to put any stock in the fact that you have a partner, you risk setting yourself up to buss them when it's not optimal to do so.

I know I've seen such scenarios of unoptimal bussing before. It's definitely a risky, yet rewarding strategy at any rate.

[shellyc]

Scum PT released yet?

[LavarManos]

Nahdia you can release my personal thread too!

I'd like to check out Redados's personal thread too

[Nahdia]

Apologies. Here they are:

Scum PT: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12050979
Redados PT: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12054977

[shellyc]

There are so many walls in the scum PT lmao

Interesting pr claiming strats from magikhorse as well!

[PenguinPower]