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Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:53 pm**

god i just really feel like one of agar/notty has to be scum here

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:07 pm**

do you have any inclination on which it is?

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:08 pm**

i cant wait for reck to hulk smash someone

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:08 pm**

gamma are you conceding that chess game btw?

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:09 pm**

In post 1151, Gamma Emerald wrote:do you have any inclination on which it is?

if i did dont you think i wouldve indicated that by now instead of being conflicted

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:09 pm**

holy shit i can't tell if gamma is scum or just infuriating

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:11 pm**

In post 1153, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:gamma are you conceding that chess game btw?

I stopped after you made an advanced play after a suspicious pause, because I suspected you looked it up, when you had previously stated you weren't that good, so I was like "man I'm not gonna play against someone so interested in winning he's gonna look shit up against me in a casual game like this"

In post 1154, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1151, Gamma Emerald wrote:do you have any inclination on which it is?
if i did dont you think i wouldve indicated that by now instead of being conflicted

true
thing is I've gotten scumvibes from agar, not so much from notty, and I'm also not certain my scumvibes from agar aren't just personal bias
so I'd like your perspective on those two

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:13 pm**

notty's refusal to play yesterday bc "all four are town idgaf about this" really to me screams like a very simple scum tactic to avoid contributing

my primary problem this game has been that i see things everyone are doing as really blatantly weirdly scummy but they can't all be scum

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:13 pm**

In post 1156, Gamma Emerald wrote:I stopped after you made an advanced play after a suspicious pause, because I suspected you looked it up, when you had previously stated you weren't that good, so I was like "man I'm not gonna play against someone so interested in winning he's gonna look shit up against me in a casual game like this"

lol what

imagine thinking I'd cheat at chess.

ridiculous

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:16 pm**

if you wanna start a fresh game I'd do that
I just don't feel good about continuing the current one

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:38 am**

...I was contributing. Even though I found the day ducking stupid I was doing things.

And I wouldn’t be trying a simple scum tactic.

(Self meta inc) last time I was scum in a hood with bulge I took the simple by the book play for scum and got busted for it. I’d know it wouldn’t work here and thus wouldn’t do it. Call me too scummy to be scum I guess, but I’m a little confused you think the game would be *that* easy.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:15 am**

In post 1149, notscience wrote:
I have a very firm belief antitown actions are more commonly done by town as scum is more self concious about it. Given pookys chalenge was antitown as all fuck, I think he’s likely town.

This is kind of a silly statement that sounds good on paper, but really makes no sense. Anti-town play is literally the definition of playing to your wincon as scum. Every action scum takes is anti-town, some are just more overt than others.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:33 am**

My first game back from hiatus had two lolhammers on consecutive days, both by town on town.

I understand you’re about to counter with Haschel lol hammering Sunny D1.

My tell has worked for me, and helps me avoid chasing miselim bait. Yes your answer is a very by the book answer but the beauty of this game is that the book serves as a guideline and not judge and jury.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:33 am**

I can also back up me using that thought in other places with references.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:54 am**

If your point is that sometimes town do scummy things, I don't think anyone disagrees with you. Scum also do scummy things, and it is silly to hand out free passes to people based on that. There are other reasons to call pooky town from yesterday and still engage in the day. That's my point.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:55 am**

AGar, you already say today who you think should be in the challenge arena?

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:22 am**

The base of my point is scum is way less likely than town to be overtly scummy, which is how I view pookys chcallenge.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:15 am**

In post 1148, AGar wrote:The counter point is it's a pretty low reward play (you might keep one of your scumbuddies out of a yeet pool for a bit, you maybe get a bit of towncred) with a lot of opportunity to backfire if one of them flips scum and is linked back to the person pushing it and even if they aren't they lose any potential gains as soon as that one flips. Unless you think notty's mild attempts to persuade others that all four were town will prevent any of them from ending up back in a challenge. I don't see it as a good play from Notty to try and save a scumbuddy there.

but it gives him a pass to not have to bus

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:16 am**

lilith told me she would work reads with me but she hasn't

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:19 am**

I'd be up for a lillith yeet honestly. Her entire presence in his game is forgettable, and my sense is she is a good player.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:50 am**

In post 1110, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1108, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 82, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:let's go Cobra Kai

Strike Hard
Strike Fast
No Mercy!!

kill or kill
this isn't an explanation

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:25 am**

Ah, so we’re basing it off preflip associatives on the chance someone is scum in the pool.

Got it.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:06 pm**

In post 1165, VP Baltar wrote:AGar, you already say today who you think should be in the challenge arena?

Nah, but I've also been operating under the assumption that one of Cakez/Notty is gonna challenge me. I'd prefer Notty or GE in the arena to tango with.

In post 1167, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1148, AGar wrote:The counter point is it's a pretty low reward play (you might keep one of your scumbuddies out of a yeet pool for a bit, you maybe get a bit of towncred) with a lot of opportunity to backfire if one of them flips scum and is linked back to the person pushing it and even if they aren't they lose any potential gains as soon as that one flips. Unless you think notty's mild attempts to persuade others that all four were town will prevent any of them from ending up back in a challenge. I don't see it as a good play from Notty to try and save a scumbuddy there.
but it gives him a pass to not have to bus

This feels like a weaker justification, but ok.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:18 pm**

i'm p much ready to challenge barracudas
fine with wagoning lilith or agar

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:30 pm**

In post 1172, AGar wrote:Nah, but I've also been operating under the assumption that one of Cakez/Notty is gonna challenge me. I'd prefer Notty or GE in the arena to tango with.

We all have control over this.

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