In post 1148, Alisae wrote:do i have to aggressively take charge to get people to vote mena?
I don't care if he's on V/LA honestly, How people are reaching the conclusion that this slot is town just doesn't make sense.
No id vote him in a heartbeat but then the game probably pauses cause it's not exactly a controversial vote at this point and he's not around
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:45 am
by Ahsoka
i dont think anyone in this game has done anything where they absolutely can't be scum here. not even hopkirk and alisae.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:47 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
only the sith deal in absolutes
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:47 am
by Morning Tweet
Also there's the trap of trusting my townreads too much so automatically assuming it's the player(s) with least content
I'm only decently confident on Alisae being town, following by Uncrowned/Kanna TBH at this point. Throw in some Hopkirk/ABR and idk maybe sheep Kanna on Pooky
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:48 am
by Alisae
hopkirk honeslty seems like scum given my townreads on a lot of other players are just stronger
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:48 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
whatcha townreading uncrowned for?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:49 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1026, Kanna wrote:also a clidd towngame just ended and i think he looks heaps obvtown here!
compared to a clidd scumgame that i was in: here
with for example this post:
clidd, how do you individually read the three inside group 3?
I see Mohab500 as a potential scum for what I mentioned on post 187 and for the strange transition between posts 149, 163 and 166, as he does not contextualize the reason for voting on group 2. Dsj has very strange/confused opinions on posts 49 and 51, which are aggravated on post 189. However, posts 178 and 191 demonstrate a volatility that is making me reflect. In the case of Enomis, I liked post 63 initially, where he performs some calculations to give substance to the opinion, however, the difficulty on presenting a reason for voting on post 90 seemed more like an attempt to highlight the problem than necessarily proposing a solution, considering that he makes the intention of voting explicit but does not execute it, which suggests a scummy slow-push without compromise.
So due to the combination of the impressions I had about the slots, added to the composition speculations I made on post 182, it is very likely that their group has scum.
where there's a lack of emotion and looks like it was written up for the sake of "post needed to be written up". reminds me of this:
In post 649, clidd wrote:Regarding Kanna, I believe that it is fair, because of our historical context together, that she speculates about scum!Clidd above town!Clidd based on what I have shown so far, but although she attributed a description to the impression she had of my sequence of posts during my interaction with Infinity, she used the "clidd not obvtown = probably scum" argument, which more recently scum players have used to formalize a suspicion about me, something that GuiltyLion did in forest fire and that Menalque and Morning probably remember. For me it would be more organic if she took on a questioning instance, as Menalque and Morning did, but the current instance suggests that she is convinced of what she is talking about, even without enough information to make this kind of inference. But even though I have this negative impression about her,
I see both town!Kanna mistake or malicious scum position!Kanna, which is why she is null to me and not necessarily in the pool next to scum.
@clidd, i don't know i ended up at null. and there were a lot of words which makes me uneasy cause that's very scum!clidd maybe trying to be transparent
best way i can articulate this clidd read is when clidd is town, he's sherlock, when he's scum, he's watson, so he shines a lot less brightly
so yes, i want clidd today
p-edit: what would you like me to talk about?
this just looks tmi to me
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:49 am
by Alisae
i liked his response to when I asked him if he's just OMGUS'ing people.
It felt like he was sorting players.
clidd, how do you individually read the three inside group 3?
I see Mohab500 as a potential scum for what I mentioned on post 187 and for the strange transition between posts 149, 163 and 166, as he does not contextualize the reason for voting on group 2. Dsj has very strange/confused opinions on posts 49 and 51, which are aggravated on post 189. However, posts 178 and 191 demonstrate a volatility that is making me reflect. In the case of Enomis, I liked post 63 initially, where he performs some calculations to give substance to the opinion, however, the difficulty on presenting a reason for voting on post 90 seemed more like an attempt to highlight the problem than necessarily proposing a solution, considering that he makes the intention of voting explicit but does not execute it, which suggests a scummy slow-push without compromise.
So due to the combination of the impressions I had about the slots, added to the composition speculations I made on post 182, it is very likely that their group has scum.
where there's a lack of emotion and looks like it was written up for the sake of "post needed to be written up". reminds me of this:
In post 649, clidd wrote:Regarding Kanna, I believe that it is fair, because of our historical context together, that she speculates about scum!Clidd above town!Clidd based on what I have shown so far, but although she attributed a description to the impression she had of my sequence of posts during my interaction with Infinity, she used the "clidd not obvtown = probably scum" argument, which more recently scum players have used to formalize a suspicion about me, something that GuiltyLion did in forest fire and that Menalque and Morning probably remember. For me it would be more organic if she took on a questioning instance, as Menalque and Morning did, but the current instance suggests that she is convinced of what she is talking about, even without enough information to make this kind of inference. But even though I have this negative impression about her,
I see both town!Kanna mistake or malicious scum position!Kanna, which is why she is null to me and not necessarily in the pool next to scum.
@clidd, i don't know i ended up at null. and there were a lot of words which makes me uneasy cause that's very scum!clidd maybe trying to be transparent
best way i can articulate this clidd read is when clidd is town, he's sherlock, when he's scum, he's watson, so he shines a lot less brightly
so yes, i want clidd today
p-edit: what would you like me to talk about?
this just looks tmi to me
That doesn't look like TMI to me or what TMI is at all.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:50 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 1154, Alisae wrote:hopkirk honeslty seems like scum given my townreads on a lot of other players are just stronger
yea but feels like recency bias cause everytime I review i still like Hopkirk
In post 1055, Morning Tweet wrote:i am curious if anyone can agree with me on Uncrowned being town, i think it's more likely they do a random low effort new strategy in a town game than a scum one. I believe how they're basing all their reads off of others reads on them in a sort of overly self centered way which i see from town a lot.. idk. I guess i am betting that they'd have played at least a bit more seriously as scum and i think their reads are real
ya i dont expect that to get agreed with for a long while even if im right which i think i am but maybe not for right reasons
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:50 am
by Alisae
TMI is like Plusjoyed TRing me for my catchup when no one was TRing me in nacho/tammy's mini theme
tbh any and all of my reads there are just gone from not seeing them in so long. Hop I still think had a good D1. Mena I can't tell if I'm just falling into a PoE trap by townreading too many ppl or if he is actually just scum
Ahsoka i haven't really gone anywhere with but theres for me there's been no strong reason he's town beyond possibly the clidd business (?) They both claimed to be sure the other is town
clidd, how do you individually read the three inside group 3?
I see Mohab500 as a potential scum for what I mentioned on post 187 and for the strange transition between posts 149, 163 and 166, as he does not contextualize the reason for voting on group 2. Dsj has very strange/confused opinions on posts 49 and 51, which are aggravated on post 189. However, posts 178 and 191 demonstrate a volatility that is making me reflect. In the case of Enomis, I liked post 63 initially, where he performs some calculations to give substance to the opinion, however, the difficulty on presenting a reason for voting on post 90 seemed more like an attempt to highlight the problem than necessarily proposing a solution, considering that he makes the intention of voting explicit but does not execute it, which suggests a scummy slow-push without compromise.
So due to the combination of the impressions I had about the slots, added to the composition speculations I made on post 182, it is very likely that their group has scum.
where there's a lack of emotion and looks like it was written up for the sake of "post needed to be written up". reminds me of this:
In post 649, clidd wrote:Regarding Kanna, I believe that it is fair, because of our historical context together, that she speculates about scum!Clidd above town!Clidd based on what I have shown so far, but although she attributed a description to the impression she had of my sequence of posts during my interaction with Infinity, she used the "clidd not obvtown = probably scum" argument, which more recently scum players have used to formalize a suspicion about me, something that GuiltyLion did in forest fire and that Menalque and Morning probably remember. For me it would be more organic if she took on a questioning instance, as Menalque and Morning did, but the current instance suggests that she is convinced of what she is talking about, even without enough information to make this kind of inference. But even though I have this negative impression about her,
I see both town!Kanna mistake or malicious scum position!Kanna, which is why she is null to me and not necessarily in the pool next to scum.
@clidd, i don't know i ended up at null. and there were a lot of words which makes me uneasy cause that's very scum!clidd maybe trying to be transparent
best way i can articulate this clidd read is when clidd is town, he's sherlock, when he's scum, he's watson, so he shines a lot less brightly
so yes, i want clidd today
p-edit: what would you like me to talk about?
this just looks tmi to me
That doesn't look like TMI to me or what TMI is at all.
i said i read it wrong
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:52 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 1162, Ahsoka wrote:there are multiple worlds where we're all town.
Yeh i suck more in those worlds
for you/Mena to both be town that means im screwing up multiple townreads probably which is totally plausible but still
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:53 am
by Alisae
meh ima go back to league.
maybe im not tilted anymore from losing my 2nd promo game due to a karma who wanted to troll their team and not play.
I'm 1-1 so far and I've haven't treated Ranked seriously in a long time
pedit: that was written before I noticed you read it wrong
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:56 am
by Ahsoka
why was there no kill?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:59 am
by Morning Tweet
Cause they were loverizing people instead
...no, but I think still scum probably did something other than submit "No kill". A lot of times Hectic's setups do something weird on N1 or on an early night, although it's usually public knowledge the next day so mmm ?
I know this is Ydrasse's setup but she's been in multiple silent stars and might have worked with Hectic on this game or at least drawn inspiration. I know she likes the series
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:01 am
by Albert B. Rampage
I suspect MT but I don't think she's on the table today because she's also most likely to be protected and targeted by kill.
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:02 am
by Morning Tweet
WE KNOW
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:57 am
by Uncrowned
In post 1095, Hopkirk wrote:I thought this was wrong initially but I did only vote you after you did looking back. That's a pretty bad look for me since everyone knows that if you vote someone who's voted you then you're just doing it to get rid of someone sus of you. It's a good thing that I really can't tell why you scumread me before that or made the vote, since if you had any reasoning then it might be enough to sway people. Hopefully everyone just concludes that I was voting a sus person who was very clearly in a shrinking POE that I had.
so uhh guys
are we just gonna pass over this?
is this not the most sus shit you've ever read in your lives?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:58 am
by Uncrowned
this is someone who knows that im gonna flip green