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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:21 pm

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Mini Normal 2193 Official Vote Count - 4.2: FINALLY PAGETOP


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With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

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: (expired on 2021-02-27 15:00:00)
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:54 pm

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In post 1147, In the beginning wrote:II also think the way he reacted to the fake hammer earlier was really telling considering that he later noted he knew it was fake but decided to react as if was real anyways.

I am still confused on where this "fake hammer reatcion" was at? People just started talking about my reaction to a hammer but I don't know where it was.

I am assuming it is my where I claimed. My claim was only a few posts after a VC where it had me at L-1 (the standard time to claim BTW) so I would surely know I wasn't hammered :facepalm:
death, death, goose.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:36 pm

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yeah im fine with hammer
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:39 pm

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VOTE: Cookie Monster
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:11 pm

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cool if this flips town, look hard at zoomer tomorrow for me.

adios!
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:22 pm

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i was given explicit permission
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:24 pm

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but whatever im confident it probably flips scum here anyways
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:03 am

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Majority has been reached and the hammer has fallen down on Cookie Monster.

you know what's coming
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:04 am

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Mini Normal 2193 Official Vote Count - Day 4 Hammer Edition


Cookie Monster
(3): Funeral Goose, Battle Mage, esotericzoomer
[HAMMER]

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(1): In the beginning

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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:10 am

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Majority has been reached and Cookie Monster has been executed. Their role was...

Vanilla Townie


Spoiler: Role PM
Vanilla TownieYou are a
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You have no special abilities.

You win when the town is the last remaining faction.


It is now Night 4! Night 4 will end on the 21st of February at 6am EST. On that note...

I am now offering a nightskip! Once all night actions have been submitted and every living player has confirmed to me
via PM
that they want a nightskip to occur, Day 5 will begin ASAP, regardless of the deadline.
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:24 am

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All night actions are submitted and everyone has agreed to the nightskip.

Day 5 will begin soon.
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:31 am

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A new day dawns and as the last survivors wake up, they discover yet another body...

Funeral Goose's dead body has been discovered! Their role was...

Vanilla Townie


Spoiler: Role PM
Vanilla TownieYou are a
Vanilla Townie
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You have no special abilities.

You win when the town is the last remaining faction.


It is now Day 5! Day 5 will end when majority is reached or when 10 days have passed, at which point there will be no elimination.

You may now post!
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:51 am

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intriguing!

so here's a curveball. I'm leaning towards esotericzoomer-town and final scum being Inthebeginning.

(yes my claim yesterday was BS :lol: )
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:53 am

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surely zoomer-scum should kill me last night, to set up a guaranteed mislim on Funeral Goose for the win.
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:54 am

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zoomer you claimed VT right?
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:58 am

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from inthebeginning's perspective:

Kill Zoomer = Lose
Kill Battle Mage = A bit discredited but probably win with a mislim on FG
Kill FG = Sets up a final 3 with a player who has conftowned them, and that player's top suspect.

The kill makes more sense.
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:59 am

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ok I wanna hear from you both.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:04 am

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also my shots have been absolutely shit in this game. 4 nights and I've only had 1 success. :lol:

going back to basics though, if esoteric-scum believes my claim, it makes zero sense to kill FG. although esoteric-scum might have known my claim was BS depending on Gamma's info. Damnit...

also, if esotetic is scum, we have an informed mafioso with setup info...and 3 VT claims. Uninspiring to say the least. Gated tracker feels more viable. Although balance wise it's hard to judge. Gated tracker + Mafia PR could be as balanced as VT and Mafia Goon?
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:17 am

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also worse still...if inthebeginning is scum, I had 4 shots and didn't manage to bag 1 living townie.

For completeness, I'm the friendly neighbour, so inthebeginning knows I'm Mod-confirmed town.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:36 am

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i didnt claim yet but yeah i might as well claim VT now
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:37 am

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so tell me why would you at all lie about such an important claim
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:54 am

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VOTE: In the beginning
whatever put me out of my misery
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:55 am

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UNVOTE:

so why wouldnt mafia kill you at all though bm?
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:04 am

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In post 1172, esotericzoomer wrote:UNVOTE:

so why wouldnt mafia kill you at all though bm?
actually forget i said this i cant possibly think about what a mafia aligned message sender would even be for
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:24 am

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ah elementary!

it was a simple strategy really. I'm a friendly neighbour, but I figured there was a good chance of me being NKed last night as nobody really suspected me, and I'd hammered 1 scum and pushed an elim on another. And obviously a friendly neighbour has increased utility the longer the game goes and we had no other claimed PRs so I wanted to try and survive last night. I also wasn't sure about in the beginning - I defended him from Ydrasse on Day 3 because I'd successfully targetted him the previous night (he confirmed the message he received) he knew I was town, and I had a vague idea I could use that to test his alignment (because if he tried to go for me, I'd know he was scum), but more importantly if he was town, he could confirm me. But on Day 4 I still hadn't really sorted him, so I decided to go with a claim which would direct the NK to him (by 100% confirming him town) unless he was scum himself. He'd already confirmed the message, but not been too obvious about what it said (although he did crumb it discretely). I also knew he wouldn't deny it, because he knows I'm conftown (and if he's scum, doing so would blow his cover).

Incidentally, the fact I'm a friendly neighbour is why I was so keen for Samantha to reveal whether she had an actual result on me - because when she crumbed I was conftown it just meant I was gonna NKed and that's a waste of a potentially useful PR. And why I got cross with you for drawing attention to her crumb of an inno on me (because I knew it would get me killed). Whether it ultimately serves any value, it has to be the most satisfying fakeclaim I've ever pulled off as town because it works on so many levels. :lol:

Anyway, so I figured inthebeginning would probably be NKed last night, unless inthebeginning was scum. I thought the most likely scenario was that you are scum, would kill inthebeginning, and try to get Funeral to elim me - so I targetted Funeral last night.

There was no real risk to running the gambit yesterday. If I died, I'd have flipped Friendly Neighbour, and you'd have known it was false and I didn't have a clear on ITB. As I didn't die, I can claim honestly today and remove the risk of inthebeginning winning if he is the scummiest player. And for bonus points I had a chance of hitting the other player in ExLo, meaning we could have a 3 player ExLo with me conftown to both players which is a good position to be in. I suppose the only downside is fakeclaiming inherently reduces your credibility, but really it's the only way to play that role.

Today sort of plays itself. If ITB is town, he will vote you immediately because he knows I'm town, and you will then have to vote for him because I won't hammer you (hence proving to you I'm town). And then I'll have the casting vote.

If ITB doesn't immediately vote for you, then from my perspective, he is confscum, and I'll vote him. You will then get the casting vote and have to weigh up all the evidence. But I think that's less likely as ITB already crumbed that he got the message confirming I'm town, so it's unlikely you'd buy it.

Therefore we probably end up in scenario 1 regardless of ITB's alignment.
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