Newbie 2055: City Lights [game over!]

[Vasex]

UNVOTE: unvote Floo

Ugh

[Vasex]

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision.

Don't vote. 2 vs 3. 1 wrong vote and this is the end. Or at least we should vote the mafia (maybee I just did it and it wasn't the end of the game).
We need to decide where to vote today all together, no miss votes, all together.

[Vasex]

Don't vote before PRs info

[Battle Mage]

Claim order:

Skitter
Floo
Battle Mage
LoneMarkhor

[Battle Mage]

that quickhammer yesterday was dirty. although both Vasex and HUB were responsible.

I wouldn't be at all shocked if it was HUB-Vasex - that's probably the most obvious pairing. But once claims are done, I need to re-read.

KEY THING IS (for the newbies): DON'T RUSH, and DON'T VOTE YET.

my initial thought is it's either Vasex-Floo or HUB+1. But key thing is, Floo and FBJim were not on either mis-elim wagon - meaning if they are scum, this town completely sucks and probably deserves to lose.

[LoneMarkhor]

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision.

Don't vote. 2 vs 3. 1 wrong vote and this is the end. Or at least we should vote the mafia (maybee I just did it and it wasn't the end of the game).
We need to decide where to vote today all together, no miss votes, all together.

Town would never make this mistake. I once lost a game because I didn't lynch the person who did this at LYLO then made it a dumb tell like this.

I am a vanilla townie

.

If there were masons, that means vassex and battle mage are lying.

Battle mage:

Could you please claim now? Because I think you are going to fakeclaim in case there is only one PR but you can make it two like C1 C2 setups.

Skitter:

Eh... could you claim too?

[Vasex]

Is it true that there is only one Vanilla Townie in the game?
If this is true I will vote you, LM.
5 vt, 4 dead, right? Only 1 is alive, right? So you are mafia scum, LM, if I understand it right

[LoneMarkhor]

Is it true that there is only one Vanilla Townie in the game?
If this is true I will vote you, LM.
5 vt, 4 dead, right? Only 1 is alive, right? So you are mafia scum, LM, if I understand it right

I don't understand your logic here, also

Don't do that

because it is not confirmed yet that there are 2 PRs, even then we could be in C1 or C2 setup and another mafia could be fooling us. You have been in this game since start mind telling who you think is mafia who is town?

[Battle Mage]

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision.

Don't vote. 2 vs 3. 1 wrong vote and this is the end. Or at least we should vote the mafia (maybee I just did it and it wasn't the end of the game).
We need to decide where to vote today all together, no miss votes, all together.

Town would never make this mistake. I once lost a game because I didn't lynch the person who did this at LYLO then made it a dumb tell like this.

I am a vanilla townie

.

If there were masons, that means vassex and battle mage are lying.

Battle mage:

Could you please claim now? Because I think you are going to fakeclaim in case there is only one PR but you can make it two like C1 C2 setups.

Skitter:

Eh... could you claim too?

I gave a claim order for a reason. I wanted Skitter first because they are the most likely scum, me towards the end because I'm a town PR and want to see if I can catch scum in a lie, and you last because putting myself last would be too scummy and you are the most widely townread slot. But you claimed first instead which kinda kills it.

[Battle Mage]

But whatever, I think it's unlikely there are 2 PRs tbh and I don't think Floo is ever the play today. I'm the

Jailkeeper

I targetted teamrocketqueen N1, and Vasex N2

[Vasex]

When is it possible to have only 1 PR? There is always two in the table. And it is said:
"The remaining six roles will be filled in by one mafia goon and five vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup."
So we have 5 vt, and four of them are dead (ft, ydra,kitty, trq). So I'm the last vt, and u the mafia. If i'm not mistaken in anything (i'm too lazy to know all rules' details and i tried to play like i know enough to seem like possible pr to get a shot).

I need to remind again, that I have no much time today and maybe tomorrow abd i'm quite out of the game since kt = vt, but it is not in my style to ask for replacement, especially in my first english game)

By the way, on this stage mafia usually tries a lot to win)

[Battle Mage]

problem is, now if we are in column 3, scum can easily claim tracker

[Battle Mage]

When is it possible to have only 1 PR? There is always two in the table. And it is said:
"The remaining six roles will be filled in by one mafia goon and five vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup."
So we have 5 vt, and four of them are dead (ft, ydra,kitty, trq). So I'm the last vt, and u the mafia. If i'm not mistaken in anything (i'm too lazy to know all rules' details and i tried to play like i know enough to seem like possible pr to get a shot).

I need to remind again, that I have no much time today and maybe tomorrow abd i'm quite out of the game since kt = vt, but it is not in my style to ask for replacement, especially in my first english game)

By the way, on this stage mafia usually tries a lot to win)

column 3 on the setup list.

[Vasex]

Oh, ok)

[Battle Mage]

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision.

Don't vote. 2 vs 3. 1 wrong vote and this is the end. Or at least we should vote the mafia (maybee I just did it and it wasn't the end of the game).
We need to decide where to vote today all together, no miss votes, all together.

Town would never make this mistake. I once lost a game because I didn't lynch the person who did this at LYLO then made it a dumb tell like this.

I am a vanilla townie

.

If there were masons, that means vassex and battle mage are lying.

Battle mage:

Could you please claim now? Because I think you are going to fakeclaim in case there is only one PR but you can make it two like C1 C2 setups.

Skitter:

Eh... could you claim too?

This slightly unnerves me. Why do you think I would fakeclaim but Skitter wouldn't? Not sure I understand the difference here.

I need to remind again, that I have no much time today and maybe tomorrow abd i'm quite out of the game since kt = vt, but it is not in my style to ask for replacement, especially in my first english game)

By the way, on this stage mafia usually tries a lot to win)

Translation: Mafia tries a lot to win at this stage, but I'm not trying hard. Ergo, I'm defo town.

[Vasex]

Hmmmm
So mafia can prerend that one of them is PR #2 just to force one of the vt to vote another one?

[Battle Mage]

earlier in the game, i actually figured if there was another PR it would be Vasex (tracker) or Ydrasse (friendly neighbour). apparently not. and clearly no friendly neighbour as the only unclaimed slots have not been defended at all really.

[Vasex]

*pretend

[Battle Mage]

now potentially if floo or skitter are scum they have to decide whether or not to counter-claim me. if there's no other PR claims, I'm conftown.

[Battle Mage]

I mean I think Skitter is always scum here, so Skitter probably has to claim PR (but if Skitter had claimed first, Skitter wouldn't know what to claim to fit with the actual PR).

Which is why claim order is SUPER important.

[floo]

Hey, just finished reading this page. I was several pages behind, reading the thread when Kitty was hammered. I might've voted Kitty there that day if he wasn't hammered so soon.

Do we want skitter's or my claim first?

[Battle Mage]

I don't really mind now

[Battle Mage]

as you're here, you can claim.

[Battle Mage]

I think the strategy is probably:

1. Elim Skitter today. If Skitter is town, we lose. If Skitter is scum, there is 1 scum left.
2. I will pre-select who I will target tonight and announce in thread before we elim Skitter.
3. If I die tonight, the player I targetted will be confirmed town (because my ability would block them from killing and also stop them being killed).
4. If scum choose to No-Kill just to stall the game out, we keep no-elimming until we get down to 3 players so we are guaranteed 1 conftown in the final 3.

So basically we flip scum today, and I can effectively conftown 1 of the 3 remaining players.

[floo]

I'm Vanilla Townie.

Just wanted to make sure that the claim order wasn't too important. Given the conflicts between BM and HUB, I thought the latter's slot would be forced to claim PR here.