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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:10 pm
by Loftwing
gonna edit it into DGB's wiki page and see how long it'll take for it to notice.


Huh.

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:14 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Nero when you return. Can you elaborate a bit more on why you claim my posts are "junk"?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:04 pm
by Loftwing
I'm liking Kyouko based on her own merits here. She seems to have a townlike mindset and is making a genuine effort to ketchup on the happenings. I don't think that this comes from scum!kyouko.

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:10 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1152, Loftwing wrote:I don't think that this comes from scum!kyouko.
I’m not impressed.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:06 am
by Dwlee99
This isn't scum Kyo but I'm still scum for voting a lurker slot to pressure it cause pressure is scummy ok

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:37 am
by Almost50
In post 1128, Nero Cain wrote:why grandpa?
Respect for the elderly. :P

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:39 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 687, GrandpaMo wrote:look at my bad take on my pfp :')
:(

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:42 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 700, Andresvmb wrote:Consider my vote on Kyouko for now. I want to give the non-posters time to catch up [Kop, MargotRosa].
reminder to check the timeline

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:57 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1155, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1128, Nero Cain wrote:why grandpa?
Respect for the elderly. :P
Okidoki boomer

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:59 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 791, NorwegianboyEE wrote:SSB why you just gone?
I had family in town from last Tuesday through Saturday. Normally I play in the morning before work and during work because I work from home. I took PTO Th/Fri, so I was still active (more like limited access) while they were here on Tuesday/Wednesday before PTO. Once PTO started I was doing stuff with family for 4 days. Eased back in a bit yesterday, still catching up in my games.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:04 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 810, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 807, Dwlee99 wrote:Elitell bad here probably
I'm pretty sure they've read these last pages. Yet chose to not make any posts or comment.

What do you think that tells us?
What makes you think that? I haven't read them. Why are you voting me? I was chocking it up to sheeping Koba but this is looking really bad faith now - again, a reminder to check the timeline for me here because I'm not sure when I posted my V/LA in this game, because it started after I crossposted my V/LA some time the week before my V/LA started.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:07 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I’m voting you because i thought your reaction to Kobas push was bad. Not just that.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:08 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 823, DkKoba wrote:This was how kyouko acted when i was confident on her being scum in our first game together (mini normal FIA) I can link later
I started a V/LA that I had announced before FIA WRC started when you started scumreading me in that game?

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:17 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1162, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 823, DkKoba wrote:This was how kyouko acted when i was confident on her being scum in our first game together (mini normal FIA) I can link later
I started a V/LA that I had announced before FIA WRC started when you started scumreading me in that game?
Hold up, you’re using the V/LA as an excuse? You were posting exactly when and during Kobas FOS on you. Why should your announcing of an V/LA matter at all there?

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 837, DkKoba wrote:dwlee wagon might be currently pure too, loftwing i can see scum - scum just trying to scramble for options that wont get shut down easily.
Do you think the wagons are SvS or something? That's all I can think otherwise it makes no sense to think dwlee wagon is pure if you think it is a counterwagon to me.

If you do think we're SvS that's some very shallow thinking from you - not characteristic of your towngame.

Actually I remember now, you've been saying Dwlee is town for ~convoluted reasons~, so this makes no sense.

Saying I am scum and Dwlee is town and that both of our wagons are pure does not align.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:35 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 946, Loftwing wrote:
In post 944, Dwlee99 wrote:Nero's question was answered

And pressure on a slot I think could be scum is just objectively a good thing. If they're town they can probably town up. If they're scum they probably can't.

Your thought process there is just not how I think about playing this game at all
Where was Nero's Question Answered? Koba just straight up deflected instead of answering.

Yeah, but you didn't say that you thought they were scum, hell, you couldn't have thought they were scum, because they were a noposter. You would've been just as justified in thinking that they left the game and were going to get replaced. You had 0 reason to think that they were scum, but you voted them anyway.
In post 945, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 943, Loftwing wrote:That is indicative of you WKing Dwlee against me, which is something a scum player would do to gain followers, which again, makes your actions more popular, regardless of what they are.
And yet you're voting me
Spoiler: No need to needlessly increase the length of my posts
In post 831, Kerset wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.4With 16 players alive it takes 9 to eliminate

ssbm_Kyouko (4): Almost50, NorwegianBoyEE, Dwlee99, DkKoba,

Dwlee99 (4): Rannygazoo, Wake88, LicketyQuickety, Loftwing,

Nero Cain (1): Hakai,
Almost50 (1): GrandpaMo,
LicketyQuickety (1): Nero Cain,
DkKoba (1): ssbm_Kyouko,

NorwegianBoyEE (1): Andresvmb,

Loftwing (1): Titus,
Hakai (0):
Wake88 (0):
Titus (0):
GrandpaMo (0):
Andresvmb (0):
MargotRosa (0):
Kop (0):
Rannygazoo (0):

Not voting (2): MargotRosa, Kop,

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-02 17:00:00)

V/LA: ssbm_Kyouko & GrandpaMo & Rannygazoo party till Monday

Bolded are the most viable wagons, and underlined are who I would want to axe. I hope you can see how you are the most viable option.
Answered before it was asked *technically*, but it was the kind of answer that reads like a non-answer. Koba said recently before that I'm ignoring pressure like I did in that mini I was scum in, but Koba hasn't played with town!me under wagon pressure before. See D1 of Chrono Trigger Chronicles to see me ignoring the mounting pressure on myself while continuing to push my SR, to the point that scum actually just lolhammered me "accidentally" while I was still catching up.

The things Koba is pushing me on are NAI, but he thinks he can abuse his previous streak on me for a mislim and get away with it on towncred.

When I say reads like a non-answer, I mean like, it reads tonally like the following: "I already explained why I'm voting, read my ISO".

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:37 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
As for posting in other games, if anyone actually wants to do homework they'll see the content of what I posted. This is a bit close to discussing ongoing games though and am not going to discuss that further. The only reason I'm bringing it up is because it's being used as a scummy reason to SR me because I can't deconstruct it without breaking site rules.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:43 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1165, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:The things Koba is pushing me on are NAI, but he thinks he can abuse his previous streak on me for a mislim and get away with it on towncred.
You actually claim Dkkoba is scum here?

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:50 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 958, DkKoba wrote:Hey why are you deflecting giving a reads list Loftwing ;) isn't deflection scummy?
The ol' "gotcha"

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:55 am
by LicketyQuickety
This game has a really bad case of group think.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:57 am
by Titus
In post 1169, LicketyQuickety wrote:This game has a really bad case of group think.
Plan to catch up this afternoon.

Tell me what the groupthink consensus is.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:01 am
by Hakai
My reads are all the same except for
VOTE: Kyo

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:03 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1169, LicketyQuickety wrote:This game has a really bad case of group think.
This game has a really bad case of Quick.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:05 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 971, Dwlee99 wrote:Loftwing, how am I being white knighted if I'm not town? That's my point that you're voting me
I think the point is
if
you're town, considering the bolded in the below quote. But I think Loftwing uses WKing poorly here. It seems clear from context ("WKing Dwlee
against me
") that what Loft means is Koba turning you against himself (Loft).
In post 943, Loftwing wrote:
In post 941, DkKoba wrote:Loftwing, why is the wagon bad?
What are the scummy things I'm doing that imply I have a scummy thought process?

I.e. I dont give a shit what actions you think are scummy because thats level 1 reading - Why are the actions linked to a scum agenda and improbable to be towny?
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Basically, I would expect Margot to act poorly and get axed, regardless of their alignment, and maybe even regardless of their role. If Margot was a power role, we might have accidentally axed a PR Day 1, because they looked scummy when put under immense pressure.
And what do you do? You defend Dwlee's actions. You say that this was actually a pro-town thing to do. That this was actually something you would expect town, not scum, to do. I'm not buying it. That is bullshit. That is indicative of you WKing Dwlee against me, which is something a scum player would do to gain followers, which again, makes your actions more popular,
regardless of what they are
.
Dwlee, what do you mean by "That's my point that you're voting me"? You think Loft is perspective slipping or something?

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:15 am
by Kerset
cool cookie replaces Kop