In post 1132, Crescent wrote:So Elsa, again. I would like an update on your reads when you're next around. Corwin is virtually certain town now. Your vote there does not do us any good at all.
The question I'm asking myself now is if Vivax is also town. His arguments suck, but I feel like staying on Gera would've been a way more prudent course of action for scum Vivax.
If they're both town, I think we need to put Gera under more scrutiny and squeeze more out of him.
I saw my name again after my nap. Hmm.
Frankly besides the obvious "my vote my choice" Moniker, I get what you mean. But I also see your finally acknowledging the town/town thing I brought up. RN honestly the last page was mostly NAI or arguments made in bad faith against play styles mostly. It drowned out the good ones.
Focus on Gera. Focus on making sure Toffee also doesn't bail on the game and gives us actual opinions. Don't let Gibus and NotMaf coast votes. Hope Eira actually feels better and/or plays like day 1. We got a lot to do that isn't just Vivax and Corwin.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:40 am
by Crescent
If you think the likelihood is that Corwin and Vivax are both town, why is your vote still on Corwin?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:47 am
by Elsa Jay
Again My Vote My Choice. But I'll move it when it's relevant. It'll only harm something if people flash wagon him anyway.
And I acknowledged it was a possibility. Not confirmed.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:55 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Looks like Crescent is scum, no?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:56 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
I am reading and catching up but also trying to stay current at the same time.
Vivax seems town early game so I think I like this Crescent push? Plus, her response has been awful.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:22 am
by Crescent
It's lovely to be told by the replacement my response is awful but to be given absolutely no reason why. Fits right in with this game.
Elsa is posting like she's waiting for something to happen instead of actually pushing on people herself. I feel no drive to do anything there at all.
Eiralox, the one person I could rely on to actually be high activity day 1, has gone missing.
Corwin is town who plays on bias instead of playing to win.
This game isn't worth even 1% of the energy and especially time I've put into it. I miss 2272. Games like this one are what drive me to begrudgingly rejoin that group of sexists I hail from.
I almost decided to put myself on VLA this morning, and I'm doing it now. I'm shutting the OCD off. I almost did this night 1, and I regret not doing so. Town is very likely not going to win this game anyway, and I knew this on day 1.
VLA for an unspecified amount of time. I won't be reading a post in this game in the meantime.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:23 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
We should probably elim the person not willing to play the game.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:34 am
by Elsa Jay
I mean I'm responding. I can be a strong voice in town but I'm never the best to lead it. And why so hopeless already Cres? That ain't good.
And why keep mentioning the sexist people? Like, what site even is that? I almost wanna check to see what you mean.
With how Cres treated the Goldfish slot I don't think that's the case?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:00 pm
by Alexcellent
I'm a bit hectic today but should have time to post over the weekend
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:20 pm
by Umlaut
A reminder to everyone: Declaring in-thread an intent to replace out, either conditionally or unconditionally, is against both site rules and my rules.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:23 pm
by Umlaut
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:31 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
VOTE: Crescent
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:59 pm
by Eiralox
a toffee talks a toffee decrees but the dance of truth is not danced
a gibus, a hat, makes no sound.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:13 pm
by Elsa Jay
Elsa watches as the town turns into shambles.
Eiralox has been cursed to speak in riddles
Vivax and Corwin want to battle
Crescent has lost all will to play
Not_Mafia pouring gasoline on the fire
Gibus trolling and observing
Gera existing and disappearing
Toffee after Crescent
Alex following the leader
Elsa is scared for this town. Can't even tell who among the other 9 are scum. They all are sucking.
Going off of basic 3v10 knowledge and knowledge 2/10 of us are bad, not I legitimately can't tell who's bad with so many mixed signals coming out of everyone now. Why did you all have to have a trainwreck happen here?
If only our lord and savior Clidd was here. He would've guided us.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:20 pm
by Eiralox
when the hunter stares down a cliff but has no wings, why do they not cast the first stone?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:44 pm
by Eiralox
why do they wander into the woods of despair, hunting a crow without an arrow or bow?
I'm glad you joined us, now how about some thoughts about someone else, in particular Elsa?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:10 pm
by Eiralox
and if the crow squawks, doth the hunter remain silent?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:50 pm
by geraintm
In post 1095, Vivax wrote:I'm gonna openly OMGUS this, go look at clidds reads, and call geraintm mafia for this. And because the logic to vote for me is hilariously lazy and he doesn't apply it in reverse.
And there's also your reason for clidd getting NKd.
So I guess my work here is done. I'll just sheep a good dead town, because it's what mafia wouldn't want me to do.
UNVOTE: VOTE: geraintm
im like, the 4th person to vote you and you turn on me?
what do you mean by my my reason for clidd?
oh seen in a few posts down. you give me way more credit for noticing that clidd always thought me scum. and surely i would have picked on Crescent in that case, they hated me yesterday?
you look bad for wanting to get rid of Not mafia because a policy elimination right then was a terrible, terrible idea that felt like wanting to come from scum wanting an easy elimination of a townie - hence me saying if not mafia turns out green you looked awful.
you point out i didnt follow up on Alex the same way i have with you for doing the same thing with the policy elimination of not mafia - and i think i said i may have confirmation bias when looking at you so i guess that is fair. but i wasnt voting you for just the one thing, its been a whole host
In post 1101, Vivax wrote:And since every good coffin needs four nails, here's the final one:
Day 2....i dunno.
they are ignoring Corwin's claim which is weird.
What claim?
Did geraintm tell him to claim vig today or where does this come from.
ok, this is embarressing, i was 100% sure that they had said something like "with the infomation i have" when they voted for you - which i took to mean they had some info from a night action about your guilt. it was why i was looking so hard at you first.
but i cannot find it in their ISO, so now i am wondering why i ever thought it??
@corwin - did you say something like that?
because it was why i thought you were so likely town - i couldnt think scum would make that suggestion you had night info like that and make such a strong vote on vivax.
now though, with them moving their vote off you they clearly didnt have strong night info like i had assumed.
Post 1102 - it is comforting that crescent is agreeing with me liek this - not the first time i dont think ether.
To expand: You can't possibly think I look bad for wanting to launch NM today when he's still alive and you don't know his alignment.
*Raises hand*
The NM vote was legitimately bad because a vote on him that early in the day achieves absolutely nothing. It's the ultimate sinkhole. I've made it no secret I find him insufferable and want him out of this game, but rushing him out is not pro-town.
I'm only on phone at the moment so tabbing all over the place isn't an option but next up I'm taking a peek at Gera's day 2 ISO.
Not that NM matters now as for what I believe, I found the other mafia. You're kind of on an old page.
The argument is very bad as it puts something that happens in a possible future (NM dies and flips town) as a fact in the present (NM would die as town and that makes you look bad now).
this is horrible circular logic. you cannot find mafia because they thought you did something scummy - when you are talking to someone else who thinks you are scummy too! or have you found the whole team??
In post 1106, Vivax wrote:I was kind of drawing up a massive for almost an hour post when I started out wanting to make a simple flowchart in response to crescent.
But the end result is that crescent is likely mafia.