Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

That deserves a pagetop

[T-Bone]

I think mastina is rather obvious town at the moment and her wagon is really weak and based on things that most people aren't genuinely confident make her scum
In other words, it's really lazy

What specifically is "really lazy"?

You can start with me if you'd like.

[T-Bone]

But also I gave you my point of view Mastina, you can take it to heart or not.

I did want to add to this Mastina, you seem to think I'm town, therefore from your PoV my thoughts should be genuine even if I'm wrong, and there's an opportunity for us to bridge the divide.

[Scarfmanship]

Anyway we could let Mathblade shoot Mastina and be done with it. At the very least this game needs those two voices to chill for a bit.

Ok, and this requires the rest of the game to work together to vote someone else out which I don't see happening. Hence my vote on DDS, a slot that like RR many people have called scum but not voted for. Also hello, nice to meat you.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

I think mastina is rather obvious town at the moment and her wagon is really weak and based on things that most people aren't genuinely confident make her scum
In other words, it's really lazy

What specifically is "really lazy"?

You can start with me if you'd like.

You've explicitly stated that you're open to mastina being town but think her current posting is anti-town and that's contributing to your vote on her

I'll accept that as a valid way of thinking, but I think hitting scum should take precedence over that if possible and mastina is town

(I also don't really think mastina is currently the one making this game hard to read, but I accept that that's not true for everyone)

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

UNVOTE:

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Mastina talk to me about Yume town?

[T-Bone]

To be clear I think Mastina is scum but am open to the possibility I'm wrong because other players are professing strong town reads instead.

[MathBlade]

I think mastina is rather obvious town at the moment and her wagon is really weak and based on things that most people aren't genuinely confident make her scum
In other words, it's really lazy

What specifically is "really lazy"?

You can start with me if you'd like.

You've explicitly stated that you're open to mastina being town but think her current posting is anti-town and that's contributing to your vote on her

I'll accept that as a valid way of thinking, but I think hitting scum should take precedence over that if possible and mastina is town

(I also don't really think mastina is currently the one making this game hard to read, but I accept that that's not true for everyone)

There comes a point where if she is town it’s not salvageable.

I dont think she is to be abundantly clear

But she won’t vote anyone who could be elimmed

Every post instead of reads is “but I am town” 100 times.

The only way to get that to stop is to flip her.

I’ve tried asking nicely.
I’ve tried asking forcefully.
I’ve tried benefit of the doubt.

I literally am out of ways to bend to “consider” Mastina town.

I don’t have anything else left. I don’t see anyway she can be while being this destructive.

[MathBlade]

I’ve looked at the meta arguments and they don’t compare.

Titus asked me where I was right on replace in and I posted two games where I was but they aren’t exactly D1 so they don’t matter.

The goal posts will always move for me and Mastina can literally be doing the outed scum play and none of you all care to elim her.

[MathBlade]

So if someone says “But this is town Mastina”

I expect a fucking case

Not just “trust me bro. Mastina’s town”

Explain it like I am 5 or get on the Mastina wagon.

[T-Bone]

There comes a point where if she is town it’s not salvageable.

No that's not true.

[T-Bone]

Two things need to happen basically. One, Mastina needs to show, not tell. Two, you especially need to give her the space to do so (or not do so).

And like, you can always dayvig her tomorrow. Let's not pretend you'll get night killed. You're basically bulletproof tonight.

[Scarfmanship]

Tbone why are you voting mastina?

[MathBlade]

Two things need to happen basically. One, Mastina needs to show, not tell. Two, you especially need to give her the space to do so (or not do so).

And like, you can always dayvig her tomorrow. Let's not pretend you'll get night killed. You're basically bulletproof tonight.

I am Dusk 2 or Day 2 as said before

I have to survive 2 nights TBone.

She has her space but I don’t think votes should move until she does

And if she does useless Ate instead I will point it out.

She has and always does have the “space”.

But I don’t believe she’s town.

[MathBlade]

2 or 3 nights *

[T-Bone]

I have not moved my vote Mate

[MathBlade]

I have not moved my vote Mate

It was the general suggestion to move it off I was objecting to.

If she shows herself town I will move it.

I’ve heard way too much emotional pleading to care about hers.

If she shows rather than tells then I will but admittedly that’s a very high bar.

I’d need a hella lot of convincing.

I think a majority of the people are scum trying to save a buddy until and unless evidence presents itself.

[MathBlade]

UNVOTE:

Oh and sorry I was rude

Happy scum day

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

So if someone says “But this is town Mastina”

I expect a fucking case

Not just “trust me bro. Mastina’s town”

Explain it like I am 5 or get on the Mastina wagon.

I'm not going to engage with this

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Maid Cafe
Scarfmanship
Radical Rat
Radja
Enchant

Here are the people I want gone today

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

VOTE: Maid Cafe

[Yume]

Explain it like I am 5 or get on the Mastina wagon.

Well, okay.

[Yume]

However, if anyone else here has hydraed with mastina, speak up and I will defer my read of her to you.

[MathBlade]

I will look at that after work.

On a skim like a good half were proceeds though so I am not holding out much hope for it.

I will fill it out and post it here after work.