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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:28 am
by gobbledygook
In post 11484, xofelf wrote:There are 4 cult.
Also I'm at my inlaws until Tuesday and then my son has some minor surgery on Thursday, V/LA for a while. Will check in as much as I can, but who knows how much you'll get out of me.
noted. thoughts n prayers ~ chk
Do you know something we don’t Bingle?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:36 am
by RCEnigma
4 cult but yes we still don't have voting power. Which is why I asked ml and elements to clarify on their wincon. Or at least the leaving game part.
There might be a way to still target scum (technically we get to a point where cult is able to be circumvented) but cult would still need there numbers culled.
Elements can you still reach your wincon via ML or are they separate?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:54 am
by davesaz
Not especially happy that gobble outed that. I was kinda hoping to balance on the point of being neither so town that scum would want to kill me, nor so scummy that a vig or SK would.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:55 am
by gobbledygook
Sorry buddy, but they would have gone after you for being CL and let obvscum DEB get away for another day.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:02 pm
by davesaz
One thing I'm not sure of, I've seen weak modifier that dies on scum but not on 3p, and a variant that dies on "not same alignment". Obviously the 2nd one would mean that DEB's claim is false, but how would we know it's not the 1st one? Don't get me wrong here, I think DEB is a bit off by play anyway, but I like to have as much info as possible.
Also can you remind me who else hasn't been eliminated as possible CL? We need to get this right, and it's probably down to a point where a mostly full graph is possible.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:06 pm
by Bingle
@Dave, mostly up to date:
In post 11414, Bingle wrote: In post 11155, Bingle wrote:Updated:
At least one degree of role confirmation:
01. Pine - Motivator (Confirmed to exist)
09. BBmolla - Mason Flavor Cop (Confirmed to Exist)
19. Pink Ball -- INNOCENT CHILD (Confirmed to exist)
23. RCEnigma - Messenger (Confirmed to Exist)
32. gobbledygook - mason Vig (Confirmed to Exist)
26. Elements - SK (Confirmed via night result and ML claim)
40. EspressoPatronum - Dayvig+
Claimed but not confirmed
02. Untrod Tripod - PI
08. Rautherdir - Lie Detector (Confirmable via Death)
15. Bingle - FBI Agent
17. xofelf - Anti Cult Spotter
21. Dr Easy Bake (Weak Hider) (Confirmable via Death)
25. Miss Lynch - Backup SK, makes SK viable to win with town.
34. chennisden - Faith Healer
36. Almost50 - Martyr (Unjester?)
38. KidAmn - JK (Confirmable via targeting player with visible results (Bingle, Pine, BB)
Cult Copped but not Claimed
18. Gamma Emerald (Not Cult N1)
33. Cephrir (Not Cult N2)
Unclaimed and unconfirmed
24. davesaz
Notes for PB. Rauth is self resolving and probs dies tomorrow. A50 claimed Unjester which is much less scummy than survivor given he wants to die via vig/groupscum/sk and there’s an SK claim. I still support DEB suiciding behind A50. Also there are three cultists via xof.
Of your Should die, I’m vaguely trusting of UT’s not CL claim on Gamma.
@gobs: if cL flip shoot for group scum. If not cl shoot in groups 2 and 4.
In post 11447, Bingle wrote:Confirmations in descending order of strength:
34. chennisden - De facto lynch, so no need to sort.
19. Pink Ball (Mod Confirmed not CL or Groupscum)
09. BBmolla (Mutually confirmed not CL or Groupscum with Gobbles)
32. gobbledygook (Mutually Confirmed not CL or Groupscum with BB)
26. Elements - SK (Confirmed via admission and my own Night action result)
40. EspressoPatronum (Confirmed Not CL or Groupscum via Rauth. Soft Confirmed Not groupscum via successful Dayvig)
15. Bingle (Confirmed Not CL or Groupscum via Rauth, Rauth is self resolving)
21. Dr Easy Bake (Dies tonight)
36. Almost50 (Dies tonight)
08. Rautherdir (Dies tomorrow without expending a vig/lynch)
18. Gamma Emerald (Not Cult N1 via UT, not cult prior to yesterday via combination of UT and xof)
33. Cephrir (Not Cult N2 via UT, not cult prior to yesterday via combination of UT and xof)
17. xofelf (Not Cult Today if UT is town)
That leaves lie detection in (Ordered via my preference, with reasoning):
02. Untrod Tripod - HIGH PRIORITY SORT. Knowing he's currently town gives us an higher degree of accuracy on the cult list than any other invest. He could also theoretically be CL with a ballsy claim, but that's really unlikely. If IC'd, probably not killed by GS early because he doesn't threaten them at all but does provide a weapon against their enemies.
24. davesaz - Suspicious, and probs not dying tonight given gobble trusts RC flavor message. Good Lie detect target.
23. RCEnigma - There's a thing here that's not worth claiming. Me and RCE crumbed a thing back and forth, and I'm going to out part of it, but I'd rather he be conftown if possible.
25. Miss Lynch - Probably killed by scum at some point, but I wouldn't mind sorting this. Very high cult equity.
01. Pine - Unarguably the best cult recruit, but probably not CL and almost certainly not GS based on the fact that he's provably motivating town and moderately confirmed town.
38. KidAmn - Very much doubt this is GS with a flipped roleblocker. Very much don't care if this is recruit with confirmable role.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:07 pm
by Bingle
In post 11575, gobbledygook wrote: In post 11484, xofelf wrote:There are 4 cult.
Also I'm at my inlaws until Tuesday and then my son has some minor surgery on Thursday, V/LA for a while. Will check in as much as I can, but who knows how much you'll get out of me.
noted. thoughts n prayers ~ chk
Do you know something we don’t Bingle?
I know many things you don't gobble. It's not particularly uncommon.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:08 pm
by gobbledygook
In post 11581, Bingle wrote: In post 11575, gobbledygook wrote: In post 11484, xofelf wrote:There are 4 cult.
Also I'm at my inlaws until Tuesday and then my son has some minor surgery on Thursday, V/LA for a while. Will check in as much as I can, but who knows how much you'll get out of me.
noted. thoughts n prayers ~ chk
Do you know something we don’t Bingle?
I know many things you don't gobble. It's not particularly uncommon.
So is Xofelf's role wrong then? You say there are 5 cult but she is saying there are 4.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:12 pm
by davesaz
I think that was corrected already, no?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:00 pm
by gobbledygook
Bingle didn’t seem to correct it. He said it after Xofelf announced
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:02 pm
by Cephrir
Rauth is obviously mafia
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:06 pm
by EspressoPatronum
Hey Ceph, what's your thoughts on us claiming bcz pisskop rolecopped us?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:28 pm
by Almost50
In post 11527, Bingle wrote:You know he's a claimed unjester, right? His wincon is literally: Get Shot.
And I'm keeping it like that for as long as we think the Town can still win, but id push comes to shove I can claim my flavour and turn into survivor too. In fact, if both Elements and ML leave the game and the Mafia are announced eradicated I could do it safely, so I am not too upset a Mafioso got shot instead.
Now I want to lynch the CL because it keeps the Town far ahead. If I thought the Cult were approaching to win I'd still probably turn myself into a Survivour in order to be able to win. (I know though that once I do that some schmuck is going to shoot me THEN).
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:32 pm
by Almost50
You didn't die, and that definitely proves I am not group scum at the very least. But didn't you also claim you died if you his behind "non-town" or did I just imagine that?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:18 pm
by Bingle
I didn't think it bore correcting. I have no method of knowing how many cultists there are outside of public information.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:19 pm
by Bingle
Ceph isn't an SK, btw.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:21 pm
by Cephrir
I'll half claim.
I am a Universal Backup. I can choose who to back up and when.
Having rolecopped me wouldn't tell scum what I've done with this, though.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:41 pm
by EspressoPatronum
In post 11591, Cephrir wrote:
I'll half claim.
I am a Universal Backup. I can choose who to back up and when.
Having rolecopped me wouldn't tell scum what I've done with this, though.
I'm a bookie. I doubt scum knows the specifics of the role in this game though, so I'll leave it at that for now.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:33 pm
by Pink Ball
Thank you. For fucks sake I thought I was the only one convinced of this. Can we just kill him? It's pure noise, noisy noise that has been noisy since D1. With fire, kill him with FIRE
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:41 pm
by Bingle
This game isn't about killing scum. It's about killing scum in the right order.
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:05 pm
by Pink Ball
The right order my balls, I want him dead now
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:36 pm
by Cephrir
We need to get CL immediately or we probably lose
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:27 pm
by KidAmn
In post 11576, RCEnigma wrote:4 cult but yes we still don't have voting power. Which is why I asked ml and elements to clarify on their wincon. Or at least the leaving game part.
"We" don't have voting power, eh?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:48 pm
by RCEnigma
3 third party, 4 cult, 2(?) Scum.
9 > 8.
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:04 am
by Rautherdir
How about I change my claim to hammerer/vig that reflexively kills a cult leader on an attempted recruit? And I'm seriously offering to leash my kill. At this point I just want cult to lose, and you might need my kill to do that at this point. So now you can all strategize around having two kills and not having to worry about anyone you don't want dying unless cult has a killing role.
And seriously, this is the best I can do with the 'no claiming scum' rule in place. And please don't kill me until the Cult Leader is dead at the very least. That's just helping the cult win.