Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Klick]

I can't tell if you're trying to confuse us into not suspecting you or what.

Nashville claims Vanilla Cop
Nashville claims Freedom is Not Vanilla
Freedom claims Vanilla

= either Nashville or Freedom is lying.

[Klick]

I feel confident enough to vote right now based on my own reading. If you want to change my mind, the way to do it will be by showing me how the Freedom slot is scum here.

[Klick]

Basically, we're still playing Mafia. If you're town, take the scum and show me why they're scum. You might have confbias now, but if you're town you should still see where the slot does things that help the Wolves.

[Klick]

UNVOTE:

[Freedom]

I can't tell if you're trying to confuse us into not suspecting you or what.

Nashville claims Vanilla Cop
Nashville claims Freedom is Not Vanilla
Freedom claims Vanilla

= either Nashville or Freedom is lying.

Don't forget 11697 where Nashville backtracks and blames Ceph for messing up results.

[Freedom]

By the way, can anybody explain why scum!me doesn't just NK Klick instead of FL? It is more beneficial if scum!me wants to win.

[Klick]

By the way, can anybody explain why scum!me doesn't just NK Klick instead of FL? It is more beneficial if scum!me wants to win.

I'd like to hear a response to this from Nashville

[Klick]

SoD Vanilla
Mastina not vanilla
Cassowary not vanilla
Keeper not vanilla
Bnuuy vanilla
Menalque vanilla
Freedom not vanilla

Something I'm particularly bothered by is that every single result Nashville has given is confirming (or in Freedom's case, refuting) the claim of someone who had already claimed in the thread.

[Klick]

So I love to hear sort of the justification behind the targets you chose each night Nashville. I'm assuming you both discussed it between each other each night?

[Nashville Dreams]

SoD Vanilla
Mastina not vanilla
Cassowary not vanilla
Keeper not vanilla
Bnuuy vanilla
Menalque vanilla
Freedom not vanilla

Something I'm particularly bothered by is that every single result Nashville has given is confirming (or in Freedom's case, refuting) the claim of someone who had already claimed in the thread.

I largely unilaterally made the choices towards the later half.

I deliberately wanted to target outed roles to confirm or deny scum as it is highest utility. People pushed Sword, and I think Freedom did in particular (if memory serves), but I didn't want to eliminate my match. If mastina was a vanilla, they'd be outed scum. Cassowary got a nonvanilla result, when we suspected most town would be vanilla. Hence the minor FoS.

Afterwards, we massclaimed, so we could only confirm or deny. That's the point of a VC.

[Nashville Dreams]

By the way, can anybody explain why scum!me doesn't just NK Klick instead of FL? It is more beneficial if scum!me wants to win.

I'd like to hear a response to this from Nashville

Absolutely not. Scum freedom has to gamble on FL not shooting him because of no draw rules that have been highlighted. We're an easy miselimination.

[Nashville Dreams]

votecount 1.1

catboi (6) | Menalque, NorwegianboyEE, MonkeyMan576, Wallflower, Sword of Ducks, MalcolmTucker
MonkeyMan576 (2) | tictac, butterchurn
Sword of Ducks (2) | catboi, Nashville Dreams
bnuuy (2) | Save The Dragons, Klick
Save The Dragons (1) | bnuuy
MalcolmTucker (1) | Cat Scratch Fever
Wallflower (1) | Tracer Bullet

Not Voting | cassowary, Enchant, Flavor Leaf, MegAzumarill, momo, Well Done, The Keeper, mastina

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

votecount 1.8

catboi (6) | tictac, Tracer Bullet, MegAzumarill, Toogeloo, Flavor Leaf, MonkeyMan576

Nashville Dreams (4) | NorwegianboyEE, Save The Dragons, Wallflower, butterchurn

MonkeyMan576 (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (2) | Menalque, catboi

Wallflower (1) | MalcolmTucker
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Well Done
MegAzumarill (1) | Cat Scratch Fever

Not Voting | Enchant, mastina, Sword of Ducks, Klick

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

votecount 1.14

catboi (6) | MegAzumarill, MonkeyMan576, Flavor Leaf, tictac, Wallflower, Toogeloo

Nashville Dreams (5) | NorwegianboyEE, butterchurn, Save The Dragons, Cat Scratch Fever, Well Done

MonkeyMan576 (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

tictac (2) | catboi, Menalque

Flavor Leaf (1) | Klick
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Well Done (1) | Sword of Ducks
The Keeper (1) | MalcolmTucker
Wallflower (1) | SCP 682

Not Voting | Enchant, mastina

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

Wallflower has requested replacement.

votecount 1.22

Toogeloo (7) | SCP 682, Ydrasse, Menalque, butterchurn, tictac, catboi, Save The Dragons

tictac (4) | Nashville Dreams, Well Done, MonkeyMan576, Cat Scratch Fever

bnuuy (3) | mastina, Klick, cassowary

catboi (1) | Flavor Leaf
MonkeyMan576 (1) | bnuuy
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
butterchurn (1) | Nero Cain
Ydrasse (1) | Sword of Ducks
mastina (1) | Toogeloo

Not Voting | Enchant, MegAzumarill, MalcolmTucker

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

votecount 1.23

Toogeloo (10) | SCP 682, Ydrasse, Menalque, butterchurn, tictac, catboi, mastina, Klick, Sword of Ducks, Save The Dragons

catboi (6) | MonkeyMan576, Nero Cain, Nashville Dreams, Flavor Leaf, Toogeloo, Cat Scratch Fever

MonkeyMan576 (2) | bnuuy, The Keeper

The Keeper (1) | Enchant
Flavor Leaf (1) | Dunnstral

Not Voting | MegAzumarill, MalcolmTucker, cassowary

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

Let's look at WallFlower's vote changes D1.

Almost everytime, WallFlower sheeps consensus and jumps on the new hot wagon. He avoids the tictac wagon though. He's willing to vote wolves, when it won't go through. He doesn't want to be caught on the actual miselimination going through.

In 4555, NC could vote tictac or bnuuy. Instead he votes Butter. The slot gets on in prime bussing territory and bails when it gets close.

[Klick]

SoD Vanilla
Mastina not vanilla
Cassowary not vanilla
Keeper not vanilla
Bnuuy vanilla
Menalque vanilla
Freedom not vanilla

Something I'm particularly bothered by is that every single result Nashville has given is confirming (or in Freedom's case, refuting) the claim of someone who had already claimed in the thread.

I largely unilaterally made the choices towards the later half.

I deliberately wanted to target outed roles to confirm or deny scum as it is highest utility. People pushed Sword, and I think Freedom did in particular (if memory serves), but I didn't want to eliminate my match. If mastina was a vanilla, they'd be outed scum. Cassowary got a nonvanilla result, when we suspected most town would be vanilla. Hence the minor FoS.

Afterwards, we massclaimed, so we could only confirm or deny. That's the point of a VC.

What went into the Keeper decision?

[Klick]

I deliberately wanted to target outed roles to confirm or deny scum as it is highest utility.

Would you consider this sort of the 'guiding principle' behind the choices you made?

Also is this Titus making these decisions?

[Nashville Dreams]

I deliberately wanted to target outed roles to confirm or deny scum as it is highest utility.

Would you consider this sort of the 'guiding principle' behind the choices you made?

Also is this Titus making these decisions?

Yes largely. I was following along Nero's paranoia that Keeper was not a gladiator due to Keeper's inaction.

Proper grammar = 90% or greater of being a Titus post.

[Nashville Dreams]

We are also missing a wolf roleblocker or the like.

[Nashville Dreams]

I thought it was Nero's by memory but I can't find it. Math had that too.

[Freedom]

By the way, can anybody explain why scum!me doesn't just NK Klick instead of FL? It is more beneficial if scum!me wants to win.

I'd like to hear a response to this from Nashville

Absolutely not. Scum freedom has to gamble on FL not shooting him because of no draw rules that have been highlighted. We're an easy miselimination.

I do?
FL wanted to shoot Mena. He said in 11663.

[Nashville Dreams]

It doesn't matter who Flavor would want to shoot last night. The wolf had a choice 2 v 1 v 1 or 3 v 1 if Flavor hit town. In a two v 1 v 1 setup, town no lims and the game is in Flavor's hands. In a 3 v 1 setup, the wolf survives one elimination. Who survives a single elimination easier? The slot widely townread.

[Nashville Dreams]

Flavor also townread us whenever we interacted at length, which means Flavor might shoot you in a 2 v 1 v 1.

[Freedom]

We are also missing a wolf roleblocker or the like.

By the way, when was a Werewolf Roleblocker mentioned specifically to exist?

[Freedom]

I don't recall any mention of any Werewolf PRs except for Mason.
And of course, catboi's slot flipped Bookie.

[Nashville Dreams]

We are also missing a wolf roleblocker or the like.

By the way, when was a Werewolf Roleblocker mentioned specifically to exist?

It hasn't been and it doesn't specifically need to be a roleblocker per se but the wolf team has no ability to block kills or interrupt the occulist unless you're a roleblocker.

[Klick]

@SoD I'm curious what you think.

[Freedom]

@Titus, can you explain why Mala and you contradict each other on whether I'm a Vanilla or PR?
I'm not sure if you answered this already but I want to double check.