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Oh, and since Deas never answered me:

The Neighborhood has daytalk. Are we assuming scum have daytalk too?

(this is important when re-reading)

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:My vote sat majority on SAD yesterday and went no where, it seemed wasted.

wasted vote when scum was lynched?

like, wait, jason, you're bitching and moaning that SAD wasn't lynched yesterday


but scum was lynched... uhhh...?

wasted on my end, meaning my vote wasn't doing anything on SAD at the time. I moved it to Dan, but that wagon broke down in the end before I got back online. I still see both SAD and Action Dan as scum... wasted vote just meant it wasn't doing anything on them at the time.

Ben's town, his play here feels close to his play in Weather Mafia II

↑ The Baltimore Sun wrote:

Day 1, Votecount 32

Shadoweh (1) - Kise
JasonT1981 (3) - BT, TheGreatestAmericanHero, Zdenek
SafetyDance (1) - ChannelDelibird

ActionDan (4) - SafetyDance, Ser Arthur Dayne, The Mini-Librarian, JasonT1981

Zdenek (3) - camn, Nostredeus, DeasVail
absta101 (1) - Shadoweh
camn (1) - absta101

TheGreatestAmericanHero (4) - sottyrulez. ActionDan, Plessiezarus, Benmage

Not voting (1):

Cerulean

• With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 6th of February at 5:30pm GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-02-06 13:30:28)
  
• CDB and SafetyDance are V/LA.

Poking CDB since it's been 3 days since he's posted.

lol dan wagon picked up steam just as Hero-scum was going down in flames

sotty reading as scum as a result of his attempt to deflect the hero-wagon onto dan

also, if you believe dan's scum, you'd have to believe he seriously wouldn't realize his role wasn't a counter-claim to Zdenek's

that's a pretty stupid gambit to pull, even for dan

↑ sottyrulez wrote:

↑ Zdenek wrote:

↑ sottyrulez wrote:I'm not sure how likely it is that both roles exist in the game though...

Scum posting - trying to cast doubt on the possibility without taking a stance.

If you think it's unlikely, say why.

So ummm, do you believe Dan's claim?

yeah definitely sotty scum here, trying to feed into the cc confusion

up to page 38, got some house cleaning to do

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:wasted on my end, meaning my vote wasn't doing anything on SAD at the time. I moved it to Dan, but that wagon broke down in the end before I got back online. I still see both SAD and Action Dan as scum... wasted vote just meant it wasn't doing anything on them at the time.

yeah but you didn't want absta or Hero lynched either

When hero was at 9 votes:

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:argh, still not sold on this lynch....

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:I don't see Absta going today... I could honestly go for either of them tomorrow though as good lynches

hm for some reason i kept thinking that absta was the day 1 lynch / traitor and hero was the night kill


@camn, this is not a loaded question, but: in this game, do you murder people at night as a member of a third party?

↑ kuribo wrote:judging the flips we've had since day 1, i'd reckon scum SAD would have to be A+ fucking stupid to say this:

↑ Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Nah the east-side people are not that important in s1. I can see 3 cops + like Bubbles as a traitor to the cops + Omar as an SK.

just saying, I'm not feeling him as scum, like, at all

This is a very, very good point.

UNVOTE:

↑ The Mini-Librarian wrote:

↑ kuribo wrote:judging the flips we've had since day 1, i'd reckon scum SAD would have to be A+ fucking stupid to say this:

↑ Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Nah the east-side people are not that important in s1. I can see 3 cops + like Bubbles as a traitor to the cops + Omar as an SK.

This is a very, very good point.

Now I'm feeling stupid. Why is this a good point? What makes you both think that SAD wouldn't say this as scum?

~ Pless

because as scum, he'd almost certainly keep that information to himself if we're in fact dealing with 3 cops and a traitor. Bubbles did flip traitor, which means that it's probably as he said: 3 scum + traitor, and an SK.

* the death of a scum at night implies either a vig or SK
* flavor suggests an SK
* the death of a traitor implies an under-manned scumteam with the traitor thrown in for balance, ergo, likely 3
* a 3-man scumteam plus traitor would make sense with an SK, but with a vig, you'd probably have to go 4 scum and a traitor

SAD is probably correct, or at least close, in his assessment of the setup. However:

to assume a gambit in which he flat-out tells the town the setup... that assumes a level of self-smugness that I don't feel SAD is capable of.

It would almost certainly invite scrutiny if it started to look like the setup was going that way--- if SAD was scum, he didn't need to say any of that stuff about the setup.

I've seen scum betray their inside knowledge before. Not sure I've ever seen it done that blatantly though. (I ran a game where I had two scumteams, and one of them openly speculated about multiple teams in early game because of the small size of their team.)

well, i mean, you have to say that because you're scum and you need to leave SAD available for mislynch

↑ kuribo wrote:flavor suggests an SK

I don't think the flavour suggests any such thing.

And you think a SK would be daft enough to waste a kill on absta? Knowing how lynchable abstra was? Really?

~ Pless

↑ kuribo wrote:well, i mean, you have to say that because you're scum and you need to leave SAD available for mislynch

Try again.

So, er, maybe it's just me but that entire interaction between Jason and Scotty reads badly on Scotty; it's probably one of the most forced interactions I've seen.

If you think we're scum with TGAH after the way day 1 played out, I really don't know what to tell you.

↑ kuribo wrote:sotty reading as scum as a result of his attempt to deflect the hero-wagon onto dan

Oh I'm sorry, when did my vote ever move off dan in the ensuing deadline? Oh it didn't? Yeah, that would be inconvenient to your case wouldn't it?

Off Hero rather, but you get the idea.

VOTE: CDB

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sottyrulez wrote:If you think we're scum with TGAH after the way day 1 played out, I really don't know what to tell you.

Um...Traitor? (jus sayin)

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Plessiezarus wrote:
Now I'm feeling stupid. Why is this a good point? What makes you both think that SAD wouldn't say this as scum?

~ Pless

Pretty much exactly what kuribo said. It's definitely enough for me to at least not worry about him for a while.