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↑ pitoli wrote:

↑ Syryana wrote:

↑ buldermar wrote:

↑ pitoli wrote:I'm giving Mala a scum lean for making weird statements, taking them back, and generally being all over the place.
But not sure if voting her while technically V/LA is alright.

Funny that you would mention this now that I've just declared my intentions of voting Mala as opposed to mentioning it at any time prior to this. And funny how similar your reason looks to the one I gave.

Excellent point.

Pedit: Buld, Bill Adama is the biggest baddest m-fer in the whole show. If Mala really is him, she's a town PR.

Err... by that logic, shouldn't Ffery have been a PR too? And maybe even Buld could be one.

↑ pitoli wrote:I don't understand why Orc as scum would want to suddenly stop giving a frak, I mean after Day 1 ended it looked like he had enough power to lead next day's lynch.

I also heavily endorse the first post, and the second is her not OMGUSing

I think Pitoli can join my town pile

↑ pitoli wrote:I know I said I would like to policy someone before, but I don't think lynching Lurker would give us a whole lot of information regardless of what he flips.

I'd be more okay with the suggested Syryana lynch today since his quickly voting fferylit and then buldermar in the span of one page - yeah that was tripping all sorts of alarms in my head. I think Syr didn't want to look like he was backing down on his possible ffery "investigation", but voted buldermar when he saw the chance. In regards to the ffery+Syryana team, eh it's a bit of a reach. I can't seem to put my finger on why, but ffery's posts still seem to lean town.

But I never like trying to call the scumteam on day one because probability says you're always going to be horribly, horribly off.

↑ pitoli wrote:Syryana, my scumread on you was based on what I saw as your inexplicably floppy votes (ffery #276, and buldemar #313) since you offered zero justification at the time. You had built enough of a case on ffery and I didn't see the next page as warranting your sudden change of heart. I could see ffery's Kara claim as preventing you from wanting to lynch her immediately, but to change your read on her completely?

I'm less suspicious now that you have supplied a (kind of) plausible reason for the switch, but I'm hardly ready to call you town just because "only stupid/sloppy scum would make such a move" as you seem to suggest.

She calls me scum a couple of times, but never votes me. Called her on it, and she responded with that final sentence.

Which part of that seems unnatural?

Seemed overly flip-floppy and had some sketchy logic in it.

You really need to be more specific

Are you accepting the rest of my comments and just zoning in on this minor point now btw?

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You really need to be more specific

Are you accepting the rest of my comments and just zoning in on this minor point now btw?

Yeah, I'm seeing what you're seeing w.r.t. pitoli. I just remember being so sure she was scum when I wrote it :/

vote lurker

There's way too many pages to catch up so I'm just prod-dodging. Sorry, should have done it last night but got distracted. Should have time tonight.

↑ SafetyDance wrote:There's way too many pages to catch up so I'm just prod-dodging. Sorry, should have done it last night but got distracted. Should have time tonight.

I can't wait to hear your latest slew of insults. I hope you have some good ones prepared!

↑ Syryana wrote:

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:

↑ Syryana wrote:

↑ pitoli wrote:
As much as I like people who call me town, I hope you're not basing that purely off of Nero's ISO, that's just insane!!

You won't like me then. You're scum.
VOTE: pitoli

I have my reasons for this, which involve pitoli/me ISO and I will disclose in due course. I want to see orc's reasons first though.

You can do this first

Going back through pitoli ISO...

Got a bad vibe off her early with the terrible RVS wagon comment.

I get why it was a stupid comment (you people won't stop reminding me), but I'm perplexed with the way it's been painted throughout this thread. More than a few people have referred to it like it was the obvious beginnings of some scum tactic or conspiracy.

I don't like her #576 where she says she didn't know SD was FoSing her. It just kinda comes off as "lol I'm a silly noob ignore me" post.

This should be nullified since SafetyDance his post WAS NOT a FOS, nor aggression against me. It was a post addressed to the entire town. I interpreted it correctly,

↑ pitoli wrote:
As much as I like people who call me town, I hope you're not basing that purely off of Nero's ISO, that's just insane!!

Nero ISO makes her town? Where the hell did she get this from? Nobody was talking about her being town with Nero ISO.

Okay this is probably my misread. This was after Mala had said multiple times she hadn't read through the thread. For some reason I thought the first and only ISO she had gone through up to that point was Nero's, since he was the nightkill. After rereading this is not the case. I still think reading only a player's ISOs doesn't give you the best context for a read.

Okay Syr did you just pull that case out of your ass be honest.

It seemed way too easy for Orc to start talking you out of it for it to have been genuine.

Both of you shhhhhh right now

We're all town here

Lurker->SD->Malakittens

Victory

Go.

Yes, I most am lining up lynches.

↑ Syryana wrote:

↑ buldermar wrote:I doubt that he changed alignment over night so if ff's reads were initially accurate, they necessarily must still be.

So, if SD is scum, how likely is orc to be his partner?

lolwot. lolWOT. LOLWOT.

So if he was town yesterday, he's town today? If fery was right about him yesterday, she's right about him today? Could you BE more banal? This whole statement of the obvious rests on the assumption fery was right and wouldn't have changed her mind about orc based on what he said today. Assuming fery's reads were right simply because she flipped town is very sloppy.

An SD scumflip implicates orc or pitoli. An orc flip would implicate SD or buldermar.

I think you're overreacting to the point I'm trying to convey. I'm well aware of the fact that she does not have the luxury of reading todays posts and adjusting her reads accordingly. In a similar vein, I trust that you're also well aware that if her reads were accurate on day 1, still are. All I'm saying is that a big part of my reason to consider orc town rests on the assumpton that ff generally speaking makes accurate reads as town.

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Yes Buldermar, you did take a long time to claim. You did a burst of posts...stopped halfway (never before) and then came back the next day to claim. You guys can go check it if you want

I doubt you'd be making something that is easily falsifiable up, so if you say I took long I probably did. I don't recall what exactly I was doing at the time.

Also what do you mean with (never before)?

If this is of importance to you I'll look into it and see if there is a way for me to show that I didn't intentionally postpone posting to get flavor knowledge from somewhere or whatever it is that you're insinuating...

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I would be open to a SD lynch based in everything.

I don't think we're looking at an orc-SD scum team. I also don't think orc would be as obvious about it in the beginning of the day if they were indeed teamed.

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:What exactly is this case on mala? I'm not very good at reading right now

She pretended to have read a sufficient part of the thread to establish clear reads while it later turned out that she had not. In addition, some of her reads were total nonsense and could not possibly have been made had she read the thread. For instance, she claimed you WK'ed.

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Buldermar won't like this

"Reread"

You're right, I don't. I'm sure you can be more specific than that if you're actually town and you have enough time to be so.

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Post #1065 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:16 pm

Post #1071 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:13 pm

Buld

I'll have a look.

What exactly is your read on me because I'm just confused now

I meant that you had never stopped in the middle of a catchup before, and the one time you did just happens during flavorclaim

↑ buldermar wrote:

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Lets mass claim rolenames

What do you guys think

I think it's a massive waste of time but sure, whatever makes your boat float.

This is 9:16 AM my time and I had to do an assignment with my study group at 10:00 AM over Skype. Most likely I woke up, responded to some messages from my bed and realized I had to take a shower and make breakfast if I were to be ready in time (which I btw didn't manage to - I ended up eating my breakfast while talking over Skype).

Ok I trust you

(Maybe)

↑ orcinus_theoriginal wrote:hi buldermar what do you think about all this

Can you please be more specific?