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↑ Titus wrote:

↑ Whatisswag wrote:I seriously dont understand why people are not voting Kaboose.

Case 1: I am mason, Kaboose is scum.

Case 2: I am scum, Kaboose is vt (or he would have claimed long ago).

Obviously it is better to try your chances at a possible vt instead of a possible mason.

This literally is a scumclaim and details his scum motivation. He was mason fishing on someone he could not get mislynched.

You eliminated you being a VT which is how people are townreading you at all. You are trying to force facts a five year old knows are false. After a scum flip and 3 days pass, my reading skills are nearly unmatched.

You've also insulted me multiple times in a manner that suggests you know I am town, when your own posts suggest you should be scumreading me.

@Grib, If you're wanting to set up bait for scum, best not to outright announce itm

This aggresiveness is not the scum play.

↑ Kaboose wrote:

↑ Mathdino wrote:I come on a minute right after a self vote,
Kinda hoped Kab's game would start on a diff note
Read the game, your input is valuable
I'll give you a pass but I won't call you reliable.

But I wanted someone to RVS me and no one did, I feel like the last kid picked at dodgeball now.

Nor is Kaboose's. You are throwing out buzzwords with no support whatsoever. Kaboose's play ain't cautious and cautious is a personality indicator anyway. I am one of the most aggressive players. Period. Townreading players because of mere aggression says that your so called reads lack depth.

↑ Titus wrote:Nor is Kaboose's. You are throwing out buzzwords with no support whatsoever. Kaboose's play ain't cautious and cautious is a personality indicator anyway. I am one of the most aggressive players. Period. Townreading players because of mere aggression says that your so called reads lack depth.

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and yeah, i consider being here half a year still a "newb"

kinda' wondering how you're townreading kaboose and gc, titus

what are the reasons behind this?

UNVOTE:

*whistles*
There is a of work to be done here. This will take a while.

↑ Heartless wrote:

↑ Titus wrote:Nor is Kaboose's. You are throwing out buzzwords with no support whatsoever. Kaboose's play ain't cautious and cautious is a personality indicator anyway. I am one of the most aggressive players. Period. Townreading players because of mere aggression says that your so called reads lack depth.

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and yeah, i consider being here half a year still a "newb"

I don't. Even then, I consider his play a scum tell not a newb tell.

I've already explained how Kaboose is town. The fact Swag lies and says the posts mean the opposite of what they do means Kaboose is town.

Green Crayons meanwhile is spot on for that one game we have that Belisarius was the mod and he was town. I can't remember the name.

prodge...

I'm sick and can't concentrate on words right now. I've been home all day trying to reread D2 here, and just can't do it. Hopefully by Sunday I'll be a bit better and able to read.

↑ Heartless wrote:

↑ Titus wrote:Who does fake claims without producing actual content? Scum.

[citation needed]

↑ Heartless wrote:

mod, i forgot that blue was your color. no impersonation was intended in the above post. for the record, all of that was me, everybody. sorry.

↑ Whatisswag wrote:Btw,

@mod

Why is the deadline constant?

Catching up tomorrow more than likely. Today I just wanna sleep :3

Come on, people should start voting. If not something like day 1 will happen.

I think I hit a nerve.

Titus, who you thinking besides swag?

I need a prod? I thought I was one of the most active players here.

↑ elleheathen wrote:Titus, who you thinking besides swag?

I would like to know that too. After, I want to know who the other two dudes mistaken as my partners are.

Hmm.

Find me a scum pair which is more possible than Kaboose and Green. And I will unvote.

↑ Lone Ranger wrote:I need a prod? I thought I was one of the most active players here.

Not anymore.

What are your thoughts on dave?

I haven't forgotten about this, I'm still doing it.

↑ Titus wrote:I don't. Even then, I consider his play a scum tell not a newb tell.

I've already explained how Kaboose is town. The fact Swag lies and says the posts mean the opposite of what they do means Kaboose is town.

Green Crayons meanwhile is spot on for that one game we have that Belisarius was the mod and he was town. I can't remember the name.

I think Anti's going about this the wrong way. Because of his stream of consciousness style Swag is going to be difficult to parse, but trying to zoom in on a few posts likely won't get you very good results since the sample size is so large and all over the place.

Meanwhile, Titus, is there any more to your argument that Green Crayons is town than meta evidence from a single game?

Prod dodge. This particular weekend is hectic.

↑ Whatisswag wrote:Hmm.

Find me a scum pair which is more possible than Kaboose and Green. And I will unvote.

If Mala is scum, Ranger is more likely to be scum.

Vote Mala.

In my first scum game I played in (which has finished long ago),

Malakittens wrote:Also for a heads up.

When newbies play with newbies; the lack of interactions is pretty damning because they find it awk to interact with each other because they are more paranoid. This is coming from experience because I found myself in my first few scum games ignoring pretty much all my scum partners while interacting with others.

So lack of interactions isn't such a town tell Nether

This is the reason why Green and Kaboose are scum team. Kaboose dont bother reading Green, Green dont bother about Kaboose either.


@Green crayons, what... checking out those two.

↑ Lone Ranger wrote:Malakittens is town. Now to wait for the other replacements (who hopefully will also make their alignments apparent).

Oh ok. It seems I forgot about this post.

A thing about those two people is that LR thinks awesome is scum but when Mala comes in, she is town. The interaction is unnatural but I dont see why scum wants to do that to a scum partner. It just attracts attention.

You're ignoring the entire context of Ranger's D1 play with respect to her stated suspicions:

- Ranger replaces in, and immediately does into a hard elle push.

- Followed by declaring awesome/Mala scum based on one (valid) point (Post 419).

- But only "Think<s> of switching there," nothing more.

- Unvotes elle in Post 453, but doesn't go to her next suspicion awesome/Mala. Even though in Post 439 Ranger was "debating between Elle and Awesome as the better lynch today."

- Then finds Kaboose scum, "probably with Elle," even though Ranger had already unvoted elle and thus suggesting Ranger's elle suspicions weren't exactly up to par any more (Post 472). This is confirmed in Post 517 when Ranger states "Elle could be town. Her latest posts felt townish." Weird that Ranger goes from elle to Kaboose, rather than elle to awesome/Mala.

- All the more weird for the lack of an awesome vote because in Post 524 Ranger states "Awesome could be scum if you <elle> are town." Ranger was reading elle to be townish (Post 517), which would undercut her associative suspicions of Kaboose and bolster her disassociative suspicions of awesome - thereby leading to an awesome/Mala vote. Not a Kaboose vote.

- No mention of awesome again for remainder of D1.

- Does mention awesome's replacement, Mala, all the way in Post 728. Simply declares: "Malakittens is town. Now to wait for the other replacements (who hopefully will also make their alignments apparent)." Careful - reading Ranger's posts will give you pretty big whiplash as she changes the slot from her biggest scum read to "apparent" town.

- Ranger then proceeds to get dismissive-defensive about the reason and quickness of her Mala read (Post 733, Post 739, Post 741). Also, successfully makes the conversation about something else by attacking someone who had problems with her Mala read (me) (Post 741, Post 743, Post 744, Post 753).


CONCLUSION: If Mala is town, Ranger is a possible buddy. Laid out some suspicions that will look good should awesome/Mala get lynched - "look, I suspected that scum!" - but simply refuses to actually follow through on those suspicions w/r/t awesome, and then when Mala replaces in shifts the read 180 degrees for no real justification (also recall that Heartless noted that Mala was doing the exact same thing that Ranger found suspicious about awesome - fencesitting - and so Ranger's read shouldn't have changed) and attacks her attackers.

If Mala is scum, Ranger is a possible buddy.*