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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:51 pm
by Sonic Boom
Sonic Boom wrote:I am waiting to see more on bins. Keeping this read close to my chest until ready to pass judgement


i know what im doing.

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:52 pm
by Sonic Boom
Jaqen Hghar wrote:Your meta


between the last time you played with me and now i have over 40+ games added to my repetoire, at least 15 are large themes.

so, hm.

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:58 pm
by Antihero
Transition Metal Complexes and Color


Image


The d-orbitals of a free transition metal atom or ion are degenerate (all have the same energy.) However, when transition metals form coordination complexes, the d-orbitals of the metal interact with the electron cloud of the ligands in such a manner that the d-orbitals become non-degenerate (not all having the same energy.) The way in which the orbitals are split into different energy levels is dependent on the geometry of the complex. Crystal field theory can be used to predict the energies of the different d-orbitals, and how the d-electrons of a transition metal are distributed among them. When the d-level is not completely filled, it is possible to promote and electron from a lower energy d-orbital to a higher energy d-orbital by absorption of a photon of electromagnetic radiation having an appropriate energy. Electromagnetic radiations in the visible region of the spectrum often possess the appropriate energy for such transitions.


Vote Count 1.14


Bins - 2 (Jaqen Hghar, Lying Cat)
hiplop - 6 (vezokpiraka, Tere, ZZZX, Flubbernugget, Cerberus v666, Sonic Boom)
Shakira Confirmed - 1 (Mac)
Sonic Boom - 3 (mastin2, Ankamius, Shakira Confirmed)
Wickedestjr - 1 (Bins)
ZZZX - 1 (hiplop)

Not Voting: ika, Kari, Wickedestjr

mastin2 is LA until June 16th.

9 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-06-17 23:00:25)

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:26 pm
by Jaqen Hghar
Antihero wrote:
Transition Metal Complexes and Color


Image


The d-orbitals of a free transition metal atom or ion are degenerate (all have the same energy.) However, when transition metals form coordination complexes, the d-orbitals of the metal interact with the electron cloud of the ligands in such a manner that the d-orbitals become non-degenerate (not all having the same energy.) The way in which the orbitals are split into different energy levels is dependent on the geometry of the complex. Crystal field theory can be used to predict the energies of the different d-orbitals, and how the d-electrons of a transition metal are distributed among them. When the d-level is not completely filled, it is possible to promote and electron from a lower energy d-orbital to a higher energy d-orbital by absorption of a photon of electromagnetic radiation having an appropriate energy. Electromagnetic radiations in the visible region of the spectrum often possess the appropriate energy for such transitions.


Vote Count 1.14


Bins - 2 (Jaqen Hghar, Lying Cat)
hiplop - 6 (vezokpiraka, Tere, ZZZX, Flubbernugget, Cerberus v666, Sonic Boom)
Shakira Confirmed - 1 (Mac)
Sonic Boom - 3 (mastin2, Ankamius, Shakira Confirmed)
Wickedestjr - 1 (Bins)
ZZZX - 1 (hiplop)

Not Voting: ika, Kari, Wickedestjr

mastin2 is LA until June 16th.

9 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-06-17 23:00:25)

So, simply exposing a polarized organometallic to light can stabilize it?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:30 pm
by mastin2
Good news.
College graduation = more free time.

Bad news.
Depression from other events + busy day = it's 2:30 in the morning right now and I aint catching up tonight. I'll do it tomorrow, though, since I can. (I don't THINK I have any other obligations other than work, but work's in the evening rather than morning/afternoon tomorrow.)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:18 am
by Tere
Jaqen Hghar wrote:
Tere wrote:I guess I would like people to comment on my Sonic Boom read in .

I don't think I am drinking wine but more pairs of eyes would be helpful since they are ignoring it.


After a man is reading this, it's causing a man to now need go back and reread you. All the excuses for tableing while at the same time feeling they're not exactly either playing their town game is sounding quite like what scum are doing while writing up their teammate.


If it makes a man feel better, Sonic has moved solidly from this dithering to let's lynch the scums today pile. I still think hiplop is awful though.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:27 am
by Tere
ika wrote:ok so im not gonna quote for jsut length reason so

lying cats, how come the PSA is a town read? I have seen games where scuums have dont such things. What about it leads to town vs scum?
ank - agree hes town
jaqu - can you elaborate why this mans iso is good? i have a few comments baout i made and the playstyle itself. but is there something eh said that give it?
shakeria - town from getgo
flub - ill prob iso later, to give much he dropped off from my existance in game
vez - he was, i should iso and compare i have had a sucm game with him but he died n1...
ZZZX - freeness? elaborate? i dont diagree hes town but i kinda have other reaosns for it based on his play

cerb - gut call says he town
wicked - who?

mastin - i would lynch in a heartbead honestly its pretty clear what masitn doing and i think its shitty and fake
SB - dont get me started

kari - day 1 policy?

bins - ill iso and decide
hiplop - can i see jpg? but inseriosu i can link a few games if you would like to use meta i find him unreadable


I assume this is directed at me, ika?

LC- I did like the PSA, and there was a Jingle wall I liked. I am not sure what I feel about fretting about the hiplop wagon.
Jaq - I liked his Bins wall IIRC.
Z - I guess the main thing is his relaxed response to the Sonic push - he also sorta seems to be scumhunting.
Kari - nope, not a policy now since her entry has been so lacklustre
Hiplop - does hiplop usually completely fail to read the thread? His case on me is awful and his ISO lacklustre, but a bit in the back of my mind is surely if a scum fabricates a case on someone they would actually check their facts and not get basics like who I have voted for wrong if they are going to make a case on wagon hopping? Surely?

My would happily lynch pile has shifted to Sonic, Kari, hiplop. Would need to look at Bins again.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:37 am
by Tere
Ankamius wrote:
Tere wrote:I was unhappy with Metal scumreading then townreading Ank in the same damn phone post at


A+

I didn't really think too hard about this originally, but this is a good catch.

Metal Sonic's scumreading point is that I'm overreacting to Titus' case on me; the fact that this is dropped entirely after this to my knowledge lessens the impact a bit, but Titus should have a pretty good idea that having a strong response to pressure is something I do as town more than scum and it's possible they synced on this.

The weird thing is MS agreeing that lurking is a scumtrait for me. I can't really go into why at all, but him having this opinion after his history with me is pretty sketchy.


I hate hate hate that change of stance, and the response to me picking it up has been equally awful.

For those link shy, Metal initially starts with this:

In post 260, Ankamius wrote:
That case on me is complete horseshit. It's not town.

"dude, what case?

looks like you're overreacting here. at first i thought u were town for this, but seriously when i look at what you were looking at, it seems like you're overreacting and that usually comes from scum"


4 fucking quote comments later IN THE SAME POST you get this:

In post 294, ika wrote:
from what i recall ank is lurky as scum so my town read on him is based that hes active and pushing the game foward as well.

"agreed!"

How do you move your view on Ank so quickly in the same bloody phone post, just to buddy up ika? That's not town. No way that's town. The distraction manoevres on Z when I spotted it and continued pushing on it were appalling, too. Textbook Metal scum just like Pokemon.

Yeah. I still don't like hiplop, but Sonic needs to eat rope. His recent responses to me have crystallised that.

VOTE: Sonic Boom

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:40 am
by Tere
Sonic Boom wrote:
Tere wrote:Relevant info - I have just finished a game with Metal and Mac as part of the scumteam in Pokemon U-Pick. I won't lie, I feel there have been a few scummy bits in their ISO. I was unhappy with Metal scumreading then townreading Ank in the same damn phone post at 474, and it also felt like he was trying to discredit my ika read a bit in the same post. 551 also doesn't answer my concerns about there being two reads in the one post and has an AtE that felt a bit icky. What also set my scumdar off was he then immediately engaged in the "ZXXX is scum all aboard the train" routine that lasted a couple of pages. I am just worried that was scum Metal noticing I'd noticed he'd not answered the question and then going "fuck Tere saw a scumslip DISTRACT DISTRACT DISTRACT". Apart from that Metal is null to me. He's more subdued than in Pokemon but that could be either the effect of the hydra or, if scum, an attempt to change meta from the trolling obvscum Mac and I saw in Pokemon.


your read on me isnt making sense. lots of vague stuff and it seems like you are more confused than anything else than actually scumreading me?

lets see here:

I feel there have been a few scummy bits in their ISO.
-- What "scummy bits"? Why are they scummy? and since they are only "bits", what exactly is the big deal here?

I was unhappy with Metal scumreading then townreading Ank in the same damn phone post at 474,
umm i made my stance on ank really clear

lets read this snippet very closely:
Sonic Boom wrote:looks like you're overreacting here. at first i thought u were town for this, but seriously when i look at what you were looking at, it seems like you're overreacting and that usually comes from scum


i thought he was town, but he made a scummy action, so my townread decreased.

and i think you arent being very fair here.

look at how you push this point 10 times

look at how i already fixed the response in the exact next same post to clarify my read on anka

Tere wrote:
@ Metal Sonic re -
can you run me through where your head is at with Ank now,
because when reading through that mega wall it kinda seemed like you were thinking him scum initially but then you agreed with ika on his town read of Ank? This is not computing for me....

Sonic Boom wrote:
Ank leaning town


Sonic Boom wrote:
Sonic Boom wrote:Ank leaning town



I responded in the immediate next post

people not reading my posts then misunderstand me then scumread me make me sad :(



What also set my scumdar off was he then immediately engaged in the "ZXXX is scum all aboard the train" routine that lasted a couple of pages.
why did it set your scumdar off? would scum be more likely to engage other players?

fuck Tere saw a scumslip
- what scumslip? the post where i said that ank "might be town but might be scum" that you misread? hi

you see you arent even reading my posts right and thats making me very frustrated. as you said yourself "they are scummy bits". then you scumread me or accuse me of stuff that i have already clarified and you still think you are right but actually you didnt see the 3 words that answered your question. this is why i like bold font and large size because it seems like people dont actually <read>



what exactly is the issue in ? maybe you should articulate what is so "uneasy" about it because i dont understand what you are not understanding.

i already solved the problem very early when you asked me in and i replied
one post later
in and for some reason you keep saying that "i am not answering you" hello???


i want more pompoms to make up for this injustice


Yep. Shite ATE, failing again to answer the point, overexaggeration... dadada.

Forget it Metal, you are scum and I am not engaging. I am not going to let you shit up the thread with this in your usual mode. You are scum.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:51 am
by Flubbernugget
Wickedestjr wrote:
Flubbernugget wrote:Your attack on me was blatantly wrong.

My attack on you was not "blatantly wrong". I accused you of opportunism, which is
still
a valid point - you've cast five votes and every vote that you've cast has been on an already existing bandwagon.

Your attitude surrounding your Cerb vote still feels like feigned frustration - that is not something I'm "blatantly wrong" about, that is just the feeling that I get from reading it. You inserted
yourself
into the conversation with Cerb and then starting acting tired of chatting with him, saying things like "Am I really doing this" and "no I'm not doing this" as if Cerb was being sooo ridiculous that you shouldn't have to argue with him anymore.

My third point was that you voted Cerb for disagreeing with you on mafia theory - you've said that I'm wrong about that, but it must be at least somewhat true considering you said this;
Flubbernugget wrote:I'm trying to out-titus titus most likely

bottom line is that if you think scum can't fake logic you're full of shit


oh and a defensive iso but willingness to go on the offense over theory is scummy

which shows that you think Cerb is "full of s***" because he disagrees with you on theory - exactly what I said.

My attack is perfectly valid. What's blatantly wrong is your attempt to carelessly toss my points aside.


Flubbernugget wrote:And there's the scum slip fuck up on someone that's not that hard to make a scum case on anyway.

I think it was a perfectly fair mistake for me to make, you'll note that even Cerb seemed fine with it once I unvoted. Of course you'd disagree because you're suddenly on this "Wicked-sucks" tangent.

I've been confidently town reading Cerb this whole game. Now that I've realized my mistake, that read still stands.

It is weird that you describe Cerb as an easy target when you supported/joined his bandwagon and appear to still suspect him.


Flubbernugget wrote:Even if your attacks are valid they're not sound and logic requires both

This doesn't make any sense.


I'm not breaking up this quote wall so bear with me.

I've made my hopping on leading wagons well known and I've given my reason why. If you disagree with my reasoning you would have brought it up instead of leaving the accusation at me being opportunistic.

You're ignoring cerb's lack of vote and lack of overall scumhunting to tunnel on awkward phrasing on my behalf. If I were to address anywhere in this quote wall where you start to bold my words the argument would divulge into semantics.

You're grasping at straws to hold onto your case to me and saying I'm on a "wicked sucks" tangent to hide it behind a cross between "woe is me" and "disregard the tunnelfuck."

I don't even understand why you're doing this since it doesn't contradict the fact that your accusation on cerb was wrong.

Also I'm not sure what wagoning an easy target has to do with anything. I'd consider cerb a safe bus target atm so attacks are likely to come from both alignments

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:58 am
by Flubbernugget
Sonic Boom wrote:oh ya i forgot to mention:

wicked is town

I'm not scum reading wicked but an explanation would still be nice here

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:05 am
by vezokpiraka
No.

Sonic is town. Don't lynch him. Lynch scum hiplop please.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:17 am
by Ankamius
Sonic Boom wrote:
Ankamius wrote:
The weird thing is MS agreeing that lurking is a scumtrait for me. I can't really go into why at all, but him having this opinion after his history with me is pretty sketchy.


uh huh. so the fundamental question: would scum be more likely to perform that action? why?

"weird" is not a valid reason to call someone scum. also, please reread.

Ankamius wrote:I somehow failed to put that it was responding to the townreading point that I'm lurkier as scum so I'm more town for being active this game,


yeah ok. thats what i said.

so next time can you put everything on the table and not misrepresent me and let other weaker-reading-people misread me? thanks.

Ankamius wrote:But in that case, Metal Sonic's point on me is even weirder than I thought it was.



"weird" "weird" "weird" "weird" "weird"

when have i ever not been weird?

the best action right now is to give me benefit of doubt = town


1. I use 'weird' to mean 'weird as town', meaning that unless I specifically mention what kind of weird it is, it defaults to that.
2. The townreading point: You literally posted 'agreed!' to ika saying that basically word for word, so yes that is what you said.
3. I can see why scum would make actions like that more than town.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:22 am
by Sonic Boom
Ankamius wrote:
2. The townreading point: You literally posted 'agreed!' to ika saying that basically word for word, so yes that is what you said.


Ankamius wrote:yeah ok. thats what i said.



JESUS CHRIST

YES, THAT IS WHAT I SAID

WHERE EXACTLY DO WE NOT AGREE HERE?


IF YOU HAD LIGHT THAT UP AT THE VERY BEGINNING WE WOULDN'T BE RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLE FOR 20 PAGES AND BE MOVING ON AND SCUMHUNTING REAL PEOPLE

THAT IS WHAT I SAID

I AGREE

SO SAY THAT EARLIER

wtf

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:28 am
by Sonic Boom
Tere wrote:That's not town.


Yes that's town

Tere wrote:No way that's town.


Yes way that's town.

Tere wrote:Textbook Metal scum just like Pokemon.


pls explain to everyone how i am "textbook scum" "just like pokemon" because i would love to know!

pls give examples instead of going "this is like pokemon!" "how?" "..."


Tere wrote:His recent responses to me have crystallised that.


I'm getting increasingly frustrated by your misreps and your fervent refusal to give me pompoms.

Image

Tere wrote:failing again to answer the point


what is the point? ask a clear question. not

"how can you do that read on ankamius? its amazing!"

"you're not town?"

"you're weird?"

my responses to you have all been good and i spend my precious time writing them. your "case" on me makes no sense. and i repeat this again.

it seems you cant differentiate between a good and a bad response

do you want to see a bad response? let me show you a bad response

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:32 am
by Sonic Boom
every time tere posts an attack against me about "how can you scumread and townread anka in the same post omg?!?!!? scum?!?!?!?!"

i will answer with this:

Tere wrote: can you run me through where your head is at with Ank now?

Sonic Boom wrote:Ank leaning town

Tere wrote:Image

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:15 am
by Flubbernugget
I'm not reading Titus v. Tere

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:26 am
by Tere
It's Metal, Flubber, and I'm not going to be engaging him. If he carries on with this shit I'll just treat him as if on ignore until he eats rope.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:32 am
by vezokpiraka
Guys. I have played with ms a lot of games. We were in the same team in team mafia. I can read him and he's town.

I also played with titus amd can read where she seems off. She is also town.

Seriously move on from there and come to hiplop.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:39 am
by Tere
I want both of them dead if I'm honest. Got another rope?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:45 am
by Jaqen Hghar
Tere wrote:

Z - I guess the main thing is his relaxed response to the Sonic push - he also sorta seems to be scumhunting.


That's the thing though. That one ISNT relaxed as town. That one is very over the top reactionary and quick to be naming any suspecting him scum and as town PR, lucky as well. Z being relaxed, cheeky, and engaging is 100% his scum meta. ZZZX is scum through and through. Don't be fooled.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:47 am
by Jaqen Hghar
*lurky

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:50 am
by ika
Flubbernugget wrote:I'm not reading Titus v. Tere


I might read tere cus tere

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:05 am
by Shakira Confirmed
Shakira Confirmed wrote:Also, hi. I feel bad about pretty much abandoning Flum for a few days but he's probably better and sounds better than me anyway SO. ok bye

Lol, I'm a bit out of the loop right now too.

mastin2 wrote:
Depression from other events + busy day = it's 2:30 in the morning right now and I aint catching up tonight. I'll do it tomorrow, though, since I can. (I don't THINK I have any other obligations other than work, but work's in the evening rather than morning/afternoon tomorrow.)

Holy crap, go to bed earlier! Lack of sleep is one of the worst things you can do to your mental health.

Are there any non-meta reasons for people scum reading Sonic Boom other than that awkard push on Ank in the beginning? A couple people with meta experience with them (ZZZX and Vezok) are also saying they're town, so other people meta scumreading them isn't enough for me. (Sorry Marq <3) Ignoring meta completely, I haven't seen much to make me think they are scum.

UNVOTE:
Will probably vote for Hiplop. Let me re-read him.

-Flum

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:10 am
by Tere
I'm not reading Sonic based on meta. It's all in my ISO.