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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:21 am
by Nachomamma8
Firebringer wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Why didn't you try to block the last scum last night?

I wasn't sure who was scum >.>
After grapes I didn't know who to block.

so you just didn't try?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:23 am
by Firebringer
I thought have two extra votes would be more useful and I thought chances of me getting killed were low.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:25 am
by Nachomamma8
useful how?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:26 am
by Firebringer
Nachomamma8 wrote:useful how?

Two conf town votes.
:D

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:27 am
by Nachomamma8
which is more useful than the chance of blocking scum because...?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:27 am
by Nachomamma8
did you ever claim your third ability?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:29 am
by Nachomamma8
do you see a flaw in the plan i presented?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:30 am
by Firebringer
My third ability is Protect which I can use to block any actions used on me.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:03 pm
by Nachomamma8
Nachomamma8 wrote:do you see a flaw in the plan i presented?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:08 pm
by Firebringer
Nachomamma8 wrote:do you see a flaw in the plan i presented?

What plan?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:14 pm
by Nachomamma8
Nachomamma8 wrote:Starbuck, AJ, Xtoxm confirmed town

Firebringer, me, Davesto not

Lynch Firebringer
Davesto shoots me
Lynch Davesto in 3p

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:20 pm
by Firebringer
Why?
And no.

Why would I agree to plan where I get lynched?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:20 pm
by Nachomamma8
Because it leads to a town win?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:21 pm
by Nachomamma8
Starbuck is confirmed town because of shattering.
Xtoxm and AJ are confirmed town because of investigative results that give a false guilty but no false innocents.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:23 pm
by Nachomamma8
Do you not understand any of these clears or do you believe the logic in clearing any of them is faulty?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:26 pm
by Aj The Epic
Dave, you realize admitting to a night kill doesn't mean you're scum, right?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:46 pm
by Firebringer
Nachomamma8 wrote:Do you not understand any of these clears or do you believe the logic in clearing any of them is faulty?

I see it, I just don't agree with lynching me.
I am town yo.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:53 pm
by Nachomamma8
OK.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:04 pm
by Firebringer
VOTE: Davsto
Its either Nacho or Davsto, right?

This must be it?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:51 pm
by Xtoxm
The only thing stopping me from insta purging Fire at this point is that the presence of his double vote would seem to indicate he couldn't have made the kill.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:00 pm
by Xtoxm
wgeurts wrote:Factional Abilities:
You share a Private Topic with your partners here: -Redacted-
Further more you share a faction-kill that gets used instead of any of your other abilities during the night.


Nacho is the only person left without an ironclad night reason for not being mafia.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:42 pm
by Davsto
Nachomamma8 wrote:Starbuck is confirmed town because of shattering.
Xtoxm and AJ are confirmed town because of investigative results that give a false guilty but no false innocents.
Who's word do we have to go on that the shattering lasts all night apart from Starbuck's word?
Godfather is a role that exists.
Xtoxm wrote:The only thing stopping me from insta purging Fire at this point is that the presence of his double vote would seem to indicate he couldn't have made the kill.
How do we know Fire's double vote is an action? How do we know it isn't just even-day double voter?

Problem with this whole "ooh look at all these confirmed towns" is that you're not considering little things. How are these people considered confirmed town but not me, who literally brought up a dead Mafia.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:52 am
by Nachomamma8
Xtoxm wrote:The only thing stopping me from insta purging Fire at this point is that the presence of his double vote would seem to indicate he couldn't have made the kill.

The double-vote activation being passive would explain that decently enough, although I can't come up with a good flavor explanation. I think he's possibly probably town but I don't think he's confirmed and I think he needs to be purged first because of the strength of a scum doublevoter the smaller the game gets as well as his other goodies.

Davsto wrote:Who's word do we have to go on that the shattering lasts all night apart from Starbuck's word?
Godfather is a role that exists.

We can have Starbuck shatter again and she will be counted as dead per the mod's word, which would mean that our win condition would be met if she shattered as the last scum. As a side note, I initially read that as "Starbucks" and cringed for her sake.

Davsto wrote:Problem with this whole "ooh look at all these confirmed towns" is that you're not considering little things. How are these people considered confirmed town but not me, who literally brought up a dead Mafia.

Why does this make you confirmed town?

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:12 am
by Davsto
Because there is a dead body, right there, and there is no way that an SK would work in a setup this small, and, if I were lying, there'd be no vigilante which would be weird.
You have no proof in front of you that those who were inspected aren't investigation-immune, or that Fire's double vote is actually an action and not an even-day thing.

I'm not confirmed town, but my confirmedness is more than the others', in my opinion. Starbuck is the only confirmed town by the fact that the game didn't end when she shattered.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:16 am
by Nachomamma8
Davsto wrote:Because there is a dead body, right there, and there is no way that an SK would work in a setup this small, and, if I were lying, there'd be no vigilante which would be weird.
You have no proof in front of you that those who were inspected aren't investigation-immune, or that Fire's double vote is actually an action and not an even-day thing.

I'm not confirmed town, but my confirmedness is more than the others', in my opinion. Starbuck is the only confirmed town by the fact that the game didn't end when she shattered.

There have been SKs in small games before.
I am also a vigilante and have already produced a dead body, and vigilantes are not common fare in every game.

The proof we have that they aren't investigative-immune is that Grapes was informed that he could get a false "MAFIA" result in the game; giving him a false "TOWN" result and not informing him of as much is bad modding and wgeurts certainly isn't a bad mod.

I'm making no arguments that Firebringer is confirmed town.